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nevershine
02/01/18 12:44:08 PM
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Who's the most powerful in regards to strength and intelligence?










Not your favorite, necessarily....
This about the most powerful between brains and brawn
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Zikten
02/01/18 12:45:22 PM
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between Brains and Brawn? Bane I guess. he has both. he is stronger than Batman and he has brains to match him. this is only in the comics. in the movie, they made him stupid.
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DrizztLink
02/01/18 12:46:38 PM
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Toss-up between Bane and Ra's, depending on what meaning of strength you mean.
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nevershine
02/01/18 12:46:56 PM
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Zikten posted...
between Brains and Brawn? Bane I guess. he has both. he is stronger than Batman and he has brains to match him. this is only in the comics. in the movie, they made him stupid.

I kinda agree.
Dude was smart enough to Figure out Batmans identity, which is something few villains have done
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DevsBro
02/01/18 12:53:50 PM
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Ra's, if I had to call it.

They all have their moments though. In fact, the closest calls I can think of that Batman has had weren't even against Ra's. It's just... not surprising, like it is when Poison Ivy manages to bumble her way into it.
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nevershine
02/01/18 12:57:05 PM
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Not very strong, but Penguin has some damn pull tbqh
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nevershine
02/01/18 2:34:15 PM
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No one yet for freeze?
Dude is smart as well as strong
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DevsBro
02/01/18 3:18:37 PM
#8:


Freeze would actually be my second pick.

Smart, strong, plus a gimmick. Not quite Bane in brawn but more than makes up for it in other departments.
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nevershine
02/02/18 11:56:18 AM
#9:


DevsBro posted...
Freeze would actually be my second pick.

Smart, strong, plus a gimmick. Not quite Bane in brawn but more than makes up for it in other departments.

Agreed
Same goes for scarecrow. Not exactly strong, but pretty damn smart.
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Kaname_Madoka
02/02/18 11:58:22 AM
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freeze tbh

bane number 2
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nevershine
02/02/18 1:17:56 PM
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Is bane really stronger than Solomon?
I know solomons not as intelligent, but shouldn't his strength kinda balance it out?
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EvalAngell
02/02/18 1:19:20 PM
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it's Joker. Even the other villains wouldn't dare mess with him despite being "stronger" or "smarter."
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Ilishe
02/02/18 1:22:29 PM
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Voted Freeze.

He's smart and deadly. Also not actually downright evil, though I could be mistaken. I mean he does it all for his terminally ill wife right?
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nevershine
02/02/18 1:23:27 PM
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Ilishe posted...
Voted Freeze.

He's smart and deadly. Also not actually downright evil, though I could be mistaken. I mean he does it all for his terminally ill wife right?

Yep
Freeze has definitely got his morals that's more than I can say for most of the other villains
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DevsBro
02/02/18 2:08:28 PM
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Thing about Grundy is he's wildly inconsistent in power level. Sometimes he poses a challenge for the justice league. Other times, Green Arrow beats him with a broken bow and no arrows.
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thanosibe
02/02/18 2:09:03 PM
#16:


nevershine posted...
Is bane really stronger than Solomon?
I know solomons not as intelligent, but shouldn't his strength kinda balance it out?
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Solomon is supernatural so I am not sure if there has ever been a "cap" on his strength. Whereas Bane can actually have an overload of Venom and it have an adverse effect. So I would bet in strength department Grundy has Bane beat.

Intelligence wise and strength, I do with Ras being the best rounded character in both categories that has proven time and time again to be a thorn in Batman's side.
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DK9292
02/02/18 2:09:48 PM
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At the very least, Grundy has endurance going for him. You can't kill someone who's already dead, after all. I think he could take the others through sheer attrition.
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Shadowplay
02/02/18 2:11:38 PM
#18:


Scarecrow because he's the only villain on that list that can easily shut down Superman.
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DevsBro
02/02/18 2:14:47 PM
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At the very least, Grundy has endurance going for him. You can't kill someone who's already dead, after all.

You can kill Grundy. I have no idea how that's supposed to work but it happens.
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Sami1000
02/02/18 2:15:00 PM
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nevershine posted...
Not very strong, but Penguin has some damn pull tbqh
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God damn, that's evil.
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DK9292
02/02/18 2:15:50 PM
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DevsBro posted...
At the very least, Grundy has endurance going for him. You can't kill someone who's already dead, after all.

You can kill Grundy. I have no idea how that's supposed to work but it happens.

...and the fact he's still around?
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Mikablu
02/02/18 2:16:28 PM
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DK9292 posted...
DevsBro posted...
At the very least, Grundy has endurance going for him. You can't kill someone who's already dead, after all.

You can kill Grundy. I have no idea how that's supposed to work but it happens.

...and the fact he's still around?

Same as every other superhero/villain that dies: he gets brought back to life. ...Er, well, "life".
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DK9292
02/02/18 2:17:43 PM
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Mikablu posted...
DK9292 posted...
DevsBro posted...
At the very least, Grundy has endurance going for him. You can't kill someone who's already dead, after all.

You can kill Grundy. I have no idea how that's supposed to work but it happens.

...and the fact he's still around?

Same as every other superhero/villain that dies: he gets brought back to life. ...Er, well, "life".

Exactly. The problem is when Superman "dies" or Joker "dies", it's a big, story-changing event and they need some serious BS to justify them returning. Grundy dies every other week.

Come to think of it, I'm pretty sure I just disproved my own point.
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DrizztLink
02/02/18 2:20:30 PM
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Shadowplay posted...
Scarecrow because he's the only villain on that list that can easily shut down Superman.

The Scarecrow toxin only affected Supes in the Injustice universe because Joker added kryptonite. Usually it's useless.
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nevershine
02/02/18 4:04:45 PM
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Obligatory scarecrow post
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Kaname_Madoka
02/02/18 4:20:27 PM
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Sami1000 posted...
nevershine posted...
Not very strong, but Penguin has some damn pull tbqh
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God damn, that's evil.

holy shit
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nevershine
02/02/18 10:12:02 PM
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Didn't they have a series where the villains were on two different teams and went against each other. Arkham....something something?
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superstud69x
02/02/18 10:15:49 PM
#28:


nevershine posted...
Is bane really stronger than Solomon?
I know solomons not as intelligent, but shouldn't his strength kinda balance it out?
8hsTZsW


Where is this from? This might be from a comic I've been trying to find for years now.
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CapnMuffin
02/02/18 10:16:44 PM
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Going by TAS I always thought Clayface was the biggest threat power wise.
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SlashmanSG
02/02/18 10:18:16 PM
#30:


Mikablu posted...
DK9292 posted...
DevsBro posted...
At the very least, Grundy has endurance going for him. You can't kill someone who's already dead, after all.

You can kill Grundy. I have no idea how that's supposed to work but it happens.

...and the fact he's still around?

Same as every other superhero/villain that dies: he gets brought back to life. ...Er, well, "life".

Well, that's kind of Grundy's thing, coming back to life.
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nevershine
02/02/18 10:33:54 PM
#31:


superstud69x posted...
nevershine posted...
Is bane really stronger than Solomon?
I know solomons not as intelligent, but shouldn't his strength kinda balance it out?
8hsTZsW


Where is this from? This might be from a comic I've been trying to find for years now.


I can't recall. I just found it online, but iirc Grundy has beaten most of, if not all members of The Justice League including super man and batman.
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Ninja-Yatsu
02/02/18 10:38:08 PM
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I'm going with the Riddler. It's an unpopular opinion, but his only real weakness that I see is his narcissism and need for attention. If he didn't intentionally leave clues to his crimes, he would be nearly unstoppable. I doubt even Batman is as intelligent as him. He even managed to find and use the Lazarus Pit without the League of Shadows knowing. Putting him above Joker is a tricky one to directly answer, but even with the Joker's unpredictability and high intelligence, the Riddler would still be capable of outsmarting him if he wanted to. In the Arkham games, he has informants hiding in Joker's gangs. If games aren't enough, he can escape Arkham Asylum's cells whenever he wants to and Joker doesn't know how to do that.
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nevershine
02/02/18 10:45:56 PM
#33:


Ninja-Yatsu posted...
I'm going with the Riddler. It's an unpopular opinion, but his only real weakness that I see is his narcissism and need for attention. If he didn't intentionally leave clues to his crimes, he would be nearly unstoppable. I doubt even Batman is as intelligent as him. He even managed to find and use the Lazarus Pit without the League of Shadows knowing. Putting him above Joker is a tricky one to directly answer, but even with the Joker's unpredictability and high intelligence, the Riddler would still be capable of outsmarting him if he wanted to. In the Arkham games, he has informants hiding in Joker's gangs. If games aren't enough, he can escape Arkham Asylum's cells whenever he wants to and Joker doesn't know how to do that.


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The riddler is definitely up there with the guys with the most smarts. Definitely an intelligent guy and yeah, if he didn't leave clues he'd be pretty damn hard to stop. However, as you pointed out his narcissistic nature is quite possibly his greatest flaw.
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Questionmarktarius
02/02/18 10:46:26 PM
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Superman
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Esrac
02/02/18 10:58:00 PM
#35:


DK9292 posted...
Mikablu posted...
@DK9292 posted...
DevsBro posted...
At the very least, Grundy has endurance going for him. You can't kill someone who's already dead, after all.

You can kill Grundy. I have no idea how that's supposed to work but it happens.

...and the fact he's still around?

Same as every other superhero/villain that dies: he gets brought back to life. ...Er, well, "life".

Exactly. The problem is when Superman "dies" or Joker "dies", it's a big, story-changing event and they need some serious BS to justify them returning. Grundy dies every other week.

Come to think of it, I'm pretty sure I just disproved my own point.


If I recall, self-resurrection is one of Grundy's powers. Every time he dies, he eventually resurrects; sometimes with a new personality.
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nevershine
02/02/18 11:17:48 PM
#36:


Iirc they've had like 4 or 5 different versions of clayface as well, including one that has a more human natural form
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superstud69x
02/02/18 11:18:43 PM
#37:


nevershine posted...
superstud69x posted...
nevershine posted...
Is bane really stronger than Solomon?
I know solomons not as intelligent, but shouldn't his strength kinda balance it out?
8hsTZsW


Where is this from? This might be from a comic I've been trying to find for years now.


I can't recall. I just found it online, but iirc Grundy has beaten most of, if not all members of The Justice League including super man and batman.


Turned out to be Justice League of America(2006) #5, and it wasn't what I was looking for after all. Oh well.
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thanosibe
02/02/18 11:51:49 PM
#38:


nevershine posted...
Iirc they've had like 4 or 5 different versions of clayface as well, including one that has a more human natural form
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clayface
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kuwab0
02/02/18 11:52:58 PM
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nevershine
02/03/18 1:08:07 AM
#40:


I still haven't voted in my own topic yet....
Kinda sad I'm still undecided
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GothamsSavior
02/03/18 1:27:04 AM
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Going with Bane on this one, personal experience (b'_')b
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au_gold
02/03/18 1:27:05 AM
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I havent read the comics, but Ive always been partial to Ras al Ghul.
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glitteringfairy
02/03/18 1:35:13 AM
#43:


Solomon Grundy,
Born on a Monday,
Christened on Tuesday,
Married on Wednesday,
Took ill on Thursday,
Grew worse on Friday,
Died on Saturday,
Buried on Sunday,
That was the end,
Of Solomon Grundy.
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Dampproof
02/03/18 1:44:18 AM
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Joker.

Depending on the writer and how much of a boner they got for the character really changes his power set.

Like for example telepaths randomly are unable to read his mind because he is soooo insane it makes it impossible for them to do it.
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nevershine
02/03/18 1:48:57 AM
#45:


Dampproof posted...
Joker.

Depending on the writer and how much of a boner they got for the character really changes his power set.

Like for example telepaths randomly are unable to read his mind because he is soooo insane it makes it impossible for them to do it.


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Kaname_Madoka
02/03/18 2:32:12 AM
#46:


Joker isn't crazy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNNxSFkgwQU&feature=youtu.be

I know the title is sort of clickbaity, but it's an excellent video. WELL worth the watch.
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nevershine
02/03/18 2:47:59 AM
#47:


Kaname_Madoka posted...
Joker isn't crazy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNNxSFkgwQU&feature=youtu.be

I know the title is sort of clickbaity, but it's an excellent video. WELL worth the watch.

I watched it all and, well
....that was pretty awesome tbqh
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Kaname_Madoka
02/03/18 2:49:05 AM
#48:


nevershine posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
Joker isn't crazy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNNxSFkgwQU&feature=youtu.be

I know the title is sort of clickbaity, but it's an excellent video. WELL worth the watch.

I watched it all and, well
....that was pretty awesome tbqh

IKR?

My friend @AceMos showed it to me just today.
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008Zulu
02/03/18 2:50:42 AM
#49:


Bane. When he isn't looking for strawberries.
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nevershine
02/03/18 2:50:42 AM
#50:


Kaname_Madoka posted...
nevershine posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
Joker isn't crazy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNNxSFkgwQU&feature=youtu.be

I know the title is sort of clickbaity, but it's an excellent video. WELL worth the watch.

I watched it all and, well
....that was pretty awesome tbqh

IKR?

My friend @AceMos showed it to me just today.

So basically, Joker just has a super sense of reality
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