Current Events > There are a few good anime heavily inspired by Cowboy Bebop

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but not many good anime heavily inspired by Neon Genesis Evangelion

Black Lagoon's format reminds me a lot of Cowboy Bebop.
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Can you give an example on both sides
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Anisoptera posted...

but not many good anime heavily inspired by Neon Genesis Evangelion

Hold up. Every mecha anime after Evangelion is inspired by Evangelion. Most good genre anime is inspired or influenced by Eva.

Prior to Evangelion genre awareness was a thing limited to high brow movies and heady screeds about postmodernism. Like Eva influenced the entire anime industry.
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Anisoptera posted...

but not many good anime heavily inspired by Neon Genesis Evangelion

RahXephon
Gunbuster
Bokurano
Lain
Madoka

Just to name a few.
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What?
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DirkDiggles posted...

Anisoptera posted...

but not many good anime heavily inspired by Neon Genesis Evangelion

RahXephon
Gunbuster
Bokurano
Lain
Madoka

Just to name a few.

Gunbuster is well before Evangelion, and Lain/Madoka aren't inspired by eva just because they're also deconstructions.
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s0nicfan posted...

Gunbuster is well before Evangelion, and Lain/Madoka aren't inspired by eva just because they're also deconstructions.

They kind of are. Anime and manga didn't do that prior to Eva. Forty years of creative work in the industry, Eva was the source of that particular creative breakthrough.
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hollow_shrine posted...

s0nicfan posted...

Gunbuster is well before Evangelion, and Lain/Madoka aren't inspired by eva just because they're also deconstructions.

They kind of are. Anime and manga didn't do that prior to Eva. Forty years of creative work in the industry, Eva was the source of that particular creative breakthrough.

Gunbuster did, though. Eva just did it with more gore 10 years later. If you're counting manga, by that point JoJo's Bizarre Adventure had already happened as well on the backs of Fist of the North Star and the other early 80s muscle manga.

EDIT: I'm not saying Eva wasn't a big deal, to be clear. Just that it wasn't the first nor the last, and while it inspired a lot of animators and writers, the shock value gets played up a lot as influence I think.
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s0nicfan posted...

hollow_shrine posted...

s0nicfan posted...

Gunbuster is well before Evangelion, and Lain/Madoka aren't inspired by eva just because they're also deconstructions.

They kind of are. Anime and manga didn't do that prior to Eva. Forty years of creative work in the industry, Eva was the source of that particular creative breakthrough.

Gunbuster did, though. Eva just did it with more gore 10 years later. If you're counting manga, by that point JoJo's Bizarre Adventure had already happened as well on the backs of Fist of the North Star and the other early 80s muscle manga.

EDIT: I'm not saying Eva wasn't a big deal, to be clear. Just that it wasn't the first nor the last, and while it inspired a lot of animators and writers, the shock value gets played up a lot as influence I think.

Not the shock value or the violence; there's the whole eighties for that. I'm talking about the medium/genre awareness. Anime metafiction wasn't really a thing in 1994. There's maybe the SRW series in 1991, but it's hardly critically aware of itself beyond mostly recreating recognizable impressions similar plots in mecha anime. And it did that exclusively with the goal of recreating the feel of those stories, hitting the nostalgia button, and getting you to spend money.

Eva took that metafiction a step further and analyzed the trappings of it's own plot set up, while trading the power fantasy of the genre for alienating yet invasive psych horror. No one thought these dimensions of any anime genre prior to EVA. After that, a lot of people did.
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