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Zikten 10/26/17 7:22:22 PM #1: |
Jedi repress emotions that we all have. Sith embrace them.
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lilORANG 10/26/17 7:23:03 PM #2: |
But do Jedi deal in absolutes?
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Southernfatman 10/26/17 7:23:57 PM #3: |
Making the Jedi into weirdo emotionally and sexually repressed monks was a dumb idea.
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Axiom 10/26/17 7:24:13 PM #4: |
The entire premise of the prequels were based around
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hockeybub89 10/26/17 7:25:58 PM #5: |
lilORANG posted...
But do Jedi deal in absolutes? Yes --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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3khc 10/26/17 7:26:44 PM #6: |
lilORANG posted...
But do Jedi deal in absolutes? Only a Sith deals in absolutes. ~Obi-Wan Kenobi, Jedi Master --- ---- ----- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 10/26/17 7:28:28 PM #7: |
Axiom posted...
The entire premise of the prequels were based around That is just one Sith. I mean the group in general This is the Sith code vs the Jedi code. One is more honest Peace is a lie. There is only Passion. Through Passion I gain Strength. Through Strength I gain Power. Through Power I gain Victory. Through Victory my chains are Broken. The Force shall free me. Vs There is no emotion, there is peace. There is no ignorance, there is knowledge. There is no passion, there is serenity. There is no chaos, there is harmony. There is no death, there is the Force. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ricemills 10/26/17 7:30:03 PM #8: |
i cut my finger just from typing in this edgy topic.
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Zikten 10/26/17 7:31:11 PM #9: |
Ricemills posted...
i cut my finger just from typing in this edgy topic. it's not about edgyiness. it's just about being honest with "human" (or other being) nature. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Axiom 10/26/17 7:31:56 PM #10: |
The sith as an ideology is literally based around lies and half-truths that wheedle their way into people's easily corruptible minds
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Zikten 10/26/17 7:33:12 PM #11: |
Axiom posted...
The sith as an ideology is literally based around lies and half-truths that wheedle their way into people's easily corruptible minds I feel like you are basing this on the movies, and not the Expanded Universe that greatly fleshes out the sith and their philosophy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 10/26/17 7:34:07 PM #12: |
I mean it's even possible to be a ligh side Sith. play the Old Republic mmo, make a Sith Warrior or Sith Inquisiter character and then pick light side actions in all the quests and you will see how it works
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Axiom 10/26/17 7:36:25 PM #13: |
Oh god of course you'd be an extended universe nerd
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sith The relationship between a Sith Master and their apprentice was not one of trust. Indeed, both the master and the apprentice constantly searched for any sign of weakness in the other, for a weak master deserved to be overthrown by their pupil, just as a weak pupil deserved to be replaced by a worthier, more powerful recruit. This harsh philosophy allowed the Sith to remain as strong as possible. Literally from the philosophy section Honesty has nothing to do with the Sith ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 10/26/17 7:37:30 PM #14: |
In my opinion the jedi are evil.
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Zikten 10/26/17 7:37:47 PM #15: |
that is strength not dishonesty
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Typhon 10/26/17 7:38:26 PM #16: |
lilORANG posted...
But do Jedi deal in absolutes? Absolutely ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrenchCrunch 10/26/17 7:40:09 PM #17: |
so what if theyre honest theyve got the blood of billions on their hands
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UnfairRepresent 10/26/17 7:40:16 PM #18: |
Yeah the Jedi are almost a text-book example of "If you stop and look at it, these guys are fucked up"
There's that black guy in KOTOR who pretty much just points out how stupid the Jedi and Sith are by going like "I;m just gonna use all these awesome powers but not be a religious nut nor an evil bastard" He's like the smartest guy in the Star Wars Canon. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Soviet_Poland 10/26/17 7:40:18 PM #19: |
Zikten posted...
it's not about edgyiness. it's just about being honest with "human" (or other being) nature. I view it quite differently. While recognizing human nature is great and all, what makes us uniquely human is our ability to reason and to cognitively suppress that nature in pursuit of virtues. As such, I kind of make the comparison that Jedi are kind of Aristotelian in their ethics. Maybe with a bit of Stoicism mixed in. --- "He has two neurons held together by a spirochete." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrenchCrunch 10/26/17 7:40:47 PM #20: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
Yeah the Jedi are almost a text-book example of "If you stop and look at it, these guys are fucked up" lold ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 10/26/17 7:48:09 PM #21: |
Zikten posted...
Axiom posted...The entire premise of the prequels were based around One Sith, when there are ever only two. Let's take a look at all the Sith in the Prequels and Original Trilogy, and count up the lies. - all the setup for the Galactic Empire, done by Palpatine - Count Dooku's manipulation of the Separatists - Palpatine lying to Anakin - Palpatine lying to the Senate to create the Galactic Empire - Order 66 - Vader trying to turn Luke to kill the Emperor - The Emperor trying to turn Luke to kill Vader And now, the Jedi - Vader betrayed and murdered Anakin --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 10/26/17 7:48:48 PM #22: |
darkjedilink posted...
One Sith, when there are ever only two. thats only in the movies ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 10/26/17 7:49:20 PM #23: |
plus if some rumors are true, the new disney movies may be about to disprove the Rule of Two
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mophead420 10/26/17 7:49:23 PM #24: |
Jedi are allowed to get laid yo
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redeadlink 10/26/17 7:51:16 PM #25: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
Yeah the Jedi are almost a text-book example of "If you stop and look at it, these guys are fucked up" Fuck yeah Jolee Bindo --- GT: wemester | PSN: redeadlink Stand with a worthless sign, wave it in the path of every face you dare not tolerate. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RebelElite791 10/26/17 7:52:57 PM #26: |
UnfairRepresent posted... Yeah the Jedi are almost a text-book example of "If you stop and look at it, these guys are fucked up" Well seeing as he's not canon this point is pretty damn useless isn't it --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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butthole666 10/26/17 7:55:30 PM #27: |
People try to read into this and plenty of EU work has done so fairly well, but the reality is that it's just a result of George Lucas being a remarkably unintelligent person.
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bulletproofvita 10/26/17 7:55:49 PM #28: |
A_Good_Boy posted...
In my opinion the jedi are evil. Well then you are lost --- PSN: bulletproofvita ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 10/26/17 7:57:38 PM #29: |
Zikten posted...
darkjedilink posted...One Sith, when there are ever only two. You mean, canon... --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 10/26/17 8:12:21 PM #30: |
darkjedilink posted...
Zikten posted...darkjedilink posted...One Sith, when there are ever only two. actually even the comics now are canon. the new comics that started in I think 2014, are canon with the movies. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 10/26/17 8:15:16 PM #31: |
was there ever a Force user who was neither a jedi or a sith?
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darkjedilink 10/26/17 8:16:04 PM #32: |
Zikten posted...
darkjedilink posted...Zikten posted...darkjedilink posted...One Sith, when there are ever only two. As are the Disney cartoons, and the books written since Disney bought them. Literally none of them contradict the Rule of Two. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 10/26/17 8:16:35 PM #33: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
was there ever a Force user who was neither a jedi or a sith? Yes - in Rebels, there was that rockmonster thing that was a Gray. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 10/26/17 8:18:43 PM #34: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
was there ever a Force user who was neither a jedi or a sith? The Night Sisters --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 10/26/17 8:20:14 PM #35: |
darkjedilink posted...
Literally none of them contradict the Rule of Two. well the movies will soon enough. one rumor says that in the movies that ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ricemills 10/26/17 8:20:46 PM #36: |
watch as the rule of two will be retconned in the future as "nobody expect the 3rd sith" plot twist.
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Zikten 10/26/17 8:21:56 PM #37: |
Ricemills posted...
watch as the rule of two will be retconned in the future as "nobody expect the 3rd sith" plot twist. I want it to back to how it was in the Old Republic era and have a Sith Academy on Korriban, and have hundreds or thousands of sith in the galaxy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 10/26/17 8:27:24 PM #38: |
Zikten posted...
darkjedilink posted...Literally none of them contradict the Rule of Two. Yeah, and movie rumors also said Luke was going to be a Sith in TFA, and be Rey's dad, or that Han was Rey's dad, or Snoke was Rey's dad. Basically, until it's shown on-screen, the Rule of Two is canon, and my original point stands. Hell, even if it turns out you're right, my point still stands, that you can't argue that the Sith are more honest than the Jedi. There's nothing in any canon source to actually suggest it. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 10/26/17 8:27:52 PM #39: |
Zikten posted...
Ricemills posted...watch as the rule of two will be retconned in the future as "nobody expect the 3rd sith" plot twist. Rule of Two originated in the Old Republic era. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 10/26/17 8:30:07 PM #40: |
darkjedilink posted...
Rule of Two originated in the Old Republic era. I know that. but that doesn't mean the entire era used it. all the KOTOR games including the MMO which takes place like 300 years after KOTOR 2, still don't have the rule of 2 yet. The Old Republic era spans like multiple thousands of years. alot of stuff happened in that time ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blue_Inigo 10/26/17 8:32:31 PM #41: |
Jedi aren't supposed to be emotionless. They're just not supposed to succumb to emotions and act like petty bitches
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darkjedilink 10/26/17 8:37:32 PM #42: |
Zikten posted...
darkjedilink posted...Rule of Two originated in the Old Republic era. Yeah, and one of those things was the implementation of the Rule of Two. All of a sudden, you want a Sith Academy? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RebelElite791 10/26/17 8:43:25 PM #43: |
I'm not sure if Zikten's opinions about Nazis or Star Wars are worse.
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Darmik 10/26/17 8:47:18 PM #44: |
Why do you keep bringing up KOTOR and TOR when they aren't canon anymore?
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Anteaterking 10/26/17 8:48:45 PM #45: |
The Rule of Two isn't a physical law. Palpatine as Darth Sidious already had multiple padawans at the same time in secret in stuff that's still canon.
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RebelElite791 10/26/17 8:49:28 PM #46: |
Anteaterking posted...
The Rule of Two isn't a physical law. Palpatine as Darth Sidious already had multiple padawans at the same time in secret in stuff that's still canon. No he didn't? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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weapon_d00d816 10/26/17 8:50:19 PM #47: |
Zikten posted...
Jedi repress emotions that we all have. Sith embrace them. Absolutely true, however the Sith are just an opposite extreme. They don't have any filter on their emotions. --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blue_Inigo 10/26/17 8:50:28 PM #48: |
Anteaterking posted...
The Rule of Two isn't a physical law. Palpatine as Darth Sidious already had multiple padawans at the same time in secret in stuff that's still canon. I don't think Force Unleashed is canon anymore --- "This is your last dance." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anteaterking 10/26/17 8:55:57 PM #49: |
RebelElite791 posted...
Anteaterking posted...The Rule of Two isn't a physical law. Palpatine as Darth Sidious already had multiple padawans at the same time in secret in stuff that's still canon. Don't Darth Maul and Count Dooku overlap? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ricemills 10/26/17 8:57:24 PM #50: |
Blue_Inigo posted...
Anteaterking posted...The Rule of Two isn't a physical law. Palpatine as Darth Sidious already had multiple padawans at the same time in secret in stuff that's still canon. Dooku/Tyranus and Maul? --- You have the right to remain silent, anything you post will be misquoted, then used against you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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