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Antifar 04/20/17 3:31:12 PM #1:	Because this Jeff Sessions quote seems to suggest that http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/20/politics/kfile-sessions-psychoanalyze/index.html "We've got cases moving in the very, very liberal Ninth Circuit, who, they've been hostile to the order," Sessions said. "We won a case in Virginia recently that was a nicely-written order that just demolished, I thought, all the arguments that some of the other people have been making. We are confident that the President will prevail on appeal and particularly in the Supreme Court, if not the Ninth Circuit. So this is a huge matter. I really am amazed that a judge sitting on an island in the Pacific can issue an order that stops the President of the United States from what appears to be clearly his statutory and Constitutional power." --- an aspirin the size of the sun. <cite>Antifar posted [p:877574645] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote>Because this Jeff Sessions quote seems to suggest that http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/20/politics/kfile-sessions-psychoanalyze/index.html <quote>"We've got cases moving in the very, very liberal Ninth Circuit, who, they've been hostile to the order," Sessions said. "We won a case in Virginia recently that was a nicely-written order that just demolished, I thought, all the arguments that some of the other people have been making. We are confident that the President will prevail on appeal and particularly in the Supreme Court, if not the Ninth Circuit. So this is a huge matter. I really am amazed that a judge sitting on an island in the Pacific can issue an order that stops the President of the United States from what appears to be clearly his statutory and Constitutional power."</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bok_Choi 04/20/17 3:32:05 PM #2:	The irony being that Hawaii would very much like to leave the Union --- I'm a good person. http://i.imgur.com/uj8LmVSl.jpg http://i.imgur.com/xPDF9Y0.jpg <cite>Bok_Choi posted [p:877574705] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote>The irony being that Hawaii would very much like to leave the Union</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hash-Brown 04/20/17 3:34:48 PM #3:	Hawaii is just a military base and a tourist trap. --- http://i.imgur.com/wuFm3hd.jpg - My Hash Brownies. http://i.imgur.com/mQ7syoS.gif http://i.imgur.com/lY3erBp.jpg <cite>Hash-Brown posted [p:877574884] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote>Hawaii is just a military base and a tourist trap.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrinceDBF 04/20/17 3:41:14 PM #4:	Hash-Brown posted... Hawaii is just a military base and a tourist trap. and volcanoes, don't forget about the volcanoes. --- that's just wrong, princedbf. <cite>PrinceDBF posted [p:877575298] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hash-Brown posted...</cite> <quote>Hawaii is just a military base and a tourist trap.</quote> and volcanoes, don't forget about the volcanoes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NintendoFanGirl 04/20/17 3:44:04 PM #5:	Yes. I have always considered the US as only having 48 states. <cite>NintendoFanGirl posted [p:877575476] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote>Yes. I have always considered the US as only having 48 states.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weapon_d00d816 04/20/17 3:45:25 PM #6:	Hawaii and Alaska are novelty states that were added to the union to arbitrarily increase the number to 50. --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG <cite>weapon_d00d816 posted [p:877575551] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote>Hawaii and Alaska are novelty states that were added to the union to arbitrarily increase the number to 50.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Master_Bass 04/20/17 3:46:48 PM #7:	Yes, Hawaii should go back to being an independent kingdom, and let's sell Alaska back to Putin before he takes it. --- Many Bothans died to bring you this post. <cite>Master_Bass posted [p:877575640] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote>Yes, Hawaii should go back to being an independent kingdom, and let's sell Alaska back to Putin before he takes it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weapon_d00d816 04/20/17 3:47:51 PM #8:	Master_Bass posted... Yes, Hawaii should go back to being an independent kingdom, and let's sell Alaska back to Putin before he takes it. We should give Alaska to Canada if anyone. Makes the most sense geographically and politically. --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG <cite>weapon_d00d816 posted [p:877575710] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote><cite>Master_Bass posted...</cite> <quote>Yes, Hawaii should go back to being an independent kingdom, and let's sell Alaska back to Putin before he takes it.</quote> We should give Alaska to Canada if anyone. Makes the most sense geographically and politically.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 04/20/17 3:48:17 PM #9:	Bok_Choi posted... The irony being that Hawaii would very much like to leave the Union No they wouldn't <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:877575740] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bok_Choi posted...</cite> <quote>The irony being that Hawaii would very much like to leave the Union</quote> No they wouldn't</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Key 04/20/17 3:59:16 PM #10:	CruelBuffalo posted... Bok_Choi posted... The irony being that Hawaii would very much like to leave the Union No they wouldn't This the only people that say that are dumb locals that don't understand the repercussions it would have. The majority of people there are perfectly happy being a state. Also tc hawaii is the greatest state there is. --- <:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;}]\\\\\\O=('-'Q) (>'-')> <('-'<) ^( '-' )^ v( '-' )v <('-'<) ^(_ _)^ (>'-')> ^(^-^) <cite>Key posted [p:877576453] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bok_Choi posted...</cite> <quote>The irony being that Hawaii would very much like to leave the Union</quote> No they wouldn't</quote> This the only people that say that are dumb locals that don't understand the repercussions it would have. The majority of people there are perfectly happy being a state. Also tc hawaii is the greatest state there is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vindris_SNH 04/20/17 4:01:58 PM #11:	Hawaii is a state? --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? <cite>Vindris_SNH posted [p:877576620] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote>Hawaii is a state?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
coolboy11 04/21/17 9:41:28 AM #12:	of course why wouldn't it be, the entirety of the US is a massive land grab so I'm not sure which states are more legitimate land grabs lol --- Sigs are boring <cite>coolboy11 posted [p:877620187] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote>of course why wouldn't it be, the entirety of the US is a massive land grab so I'm not sure which states are more legitimate land grabs lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mystere 04/21/17 9:42:48 AM #13:	Are Hawaiians excused from the rest of the world's hatred for Americans? <cite>Mystere posted [p:877620232] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote>Are Hawaiians excused from the rest of the world's hatred for Americans?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
toptopmax 04/21/17 9:42:54 AM #14:	So many angry Trumpanzees. --- pulp reality <cite>toptopmax posted [p:877620236] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote>So many angry Trumpanzees.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 04/21/17 9:43:02 AM #15:	Antifar posted... I really am amazed that a judge sitting on an island in the Pacific can issue an order that stops the President of the United States Huh, our AG is really amazed at how our government works --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:877620240] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>I really am amazed that a judge sitting on an island in the Pacific can issue an order that stops the President of the United States</quote> Huh, our AG is really amazed at how our government works</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 04/21/17 9:43:21 AM #16:	NintendoFanGirl posted... Yes. I have always considered the US as only having 48 states. alaska is a very important state. it brings in massive profits <cite>Zikten posted [p:877620253] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote><cite>NintendoFanGirl posted...</cite> <quote>Yes. I have always considered the US as only having 48 states.</quote> alaska is a very important state. it brings in massive profits</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 04/21/17 9:43:46 AM #17:	Master_Bass posted... Yes, Hawaii should go back to being an independent kingdom, and let's sell Alaska back to Putin before he takes it. it's worth more to own it than the selling price <cite>Zikten posted [p:877620269] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote><cite>Master_Bass posted...</cite> <quote>Yes, Hawaii should go back to being an independent kingdom, and let's sell Alaska back to Putin before he takes it.</quote> it's worth more to own it than the selling price</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 04/21/17 9:44:23 AM #18:	weapon_d00d816 posted... We should give Alaska to Canada if anyone. Makes the most sense geographically and politically. no it doesn't. alaska is valuable <cite>Zikten posted [p:877620293] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote>We should give Alaska to Canada if anyone. Makes the most sense geographically and politically.</quote> no it doesn't. alaska is valuable</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
toptopmax 04/21/17 9:46:01 AM #19:	Butthurt Trumpanzee triple posts. We should get rid of most of the south and the midwest by his logic. They take more money than they give. --- pulp reality <cite>toptopmax posted [p:877620372] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote>Butthurt Trumpanzee triple posts. We should get rid of most of the south and the midwest by his logic. They take more money than they give.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NintendoFanGirl 04/21/17 9:47:37 AM #20:	Zikten posted... NintendoFanGirl posted... Yes. I have always considered the US as only having 48 states. alaska is a very important state. it brings in massive profits Oh, yes, of course. I love Alaska! I was talking about Florida. <cite>NintendoFanGirl posted [p:877620434] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NintendoFanGirl posted...</cite> <quote>Yes. I have always considered the US as only having 48 states.</quote> alaska is a very important state. it brings in massive profits</quote> Oh, yes, of course. I love Alaska! I was talking about Florida.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Frostshock 04/21/17 9:50:05 AM #21:	Doom_Art posted... Antifar posted... I really am amazed that a judge sitting on an island in the Pacific can issue an order that stops the President of the United States Huh, our AG is really amazed at how our government works Using the power of context and reading comprehension, he's obviously referring to the fact that someone in Hawaii of all states is able to issue a judgment preventing increased border security for the 99% of the country that isn't isolated by thousands of miles of ocean. It's actually mind-boggling. --- Got questions about schoolwork? Want to share answers, or discuss your studies? Come to Homework Helpers! http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1060-homework-helpers <cite>Frostshock posted [p:877620525] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>I really am amazed that a judge sitting on an island in the Pacific can issue an order that stops the President of the United States</quote> Huh, our AG is really amazed at how our government works</quote> Using the power of context and reading comprehension, he's obviously referring to the fact that someone in Hawaii of all states is able to issue a judgment preventing increased border security for the 99% of the country that isn't isolated by thousands of miles of ocean. It's actually mind-boggling.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 04/21/17 9:56:59 AM #22:	Wow, it's a good thing there was never an extremely well-known event in Hawaii that ultimately lead to direct US involvement in one of the most important turning points of the 20th century, such as a major worldwide war. Sessions would sure look silly if there was, wouldn't he? --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:877620799] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote>Wow, it's a good thing there was never an extremely well-known event in Hawaii that ultimately lead to direct US involvement in one of the most important turning points of the 20th century, such as a major worldwide war. Sessions would sure look silly if there was, wouldn't he?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 04/21/17 9:58:50 AM #23:	You know what I never understood? Huh why ee Hawaii --- http://backloggery.com/devsbro/sig.gif http://i.imgur.com/kU5vu5N.png Never pepper popcorn <cite>DevsBro posted [p:877620873] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote>You know what I never understood? Huh why ee Hawaii</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tainted_emerald 04/21/17 10:06:29 AM #24:	Frostshock posted... Doom_Art posted... Antifar posted... I really am amazed that a judge sitting on an island in the Pacific can issue an order that stops the President of the United States Huh, our AG is really amazed at how our government works Using the power of context and reading comprehension, he's obviously referring to the fact that someone in Hawaii of all states is able to issue a judgment preventing increased border security for the 99% of the country that isn't isolated by thousands of miles of ocean. It's actually mind-boggling. ...as If the countries affected by the travel ban aren't an entire ocean away from the continental U.S. --- "Evil is what you make of it. Bind it to a higher purpose and you would have altered its nature. We use what tools we must." - Gerald Tarrant <cite>tainted_emerald posted [p:877621176] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote><cite>Frostshock posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>I really am amazed that a judge sitting on an island in the Pacific can issue an order that stops the President of the United States</quote> Huh, our AG is really amazed at how our government works</quote> Using the power of context and reading comprehension, he's obviously referring to the fact that someone in Hawaii of all states is able to issue a judgment preventing increased border security for the 99% of the country that isn't isolated by thousands of miles of ocean. It's actually mind-boggling.</quote> ...as If the countries affected by the travel ban aren't an entire ocean away from the continental U.S.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
P01ntyDmonspank 04/21/17 10:07:57 AM #25:	Frostshock posted... Using the power of context and reading comprehension, he's obviously referring to the fact that someone in Hawaii of all states is able to issue a judgment preventing increased border security for the 99% of the country that isn't isolated by thousands of miles of ocean. It's actually mind-boggling. What does he think about legislative branches largely composed of men constantly trying to limit abortion rights for women? <cite>P01ntyDmonspank posted [p:877621240] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote><cite>Frostshock posted...</cite> <quote>Using the power of context and reading comprehension, he's obviously referring to the fact that someone in Hawaii of all states is able to issue a judgment preventing increased border security for the 99% of the country that isn't isolated by thousands of miles of ocean. It's actually mind-boggling.</quote> What does he think about legislative branches largely composed of men constantly trying to limit abortion rights for women?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SF_Okami 04/21/17 10:24:53 AM #26:	I love Alaska tho :( --- ~Bird Pokemon Master~ Check Out my clothing brand at KQapparel.com :) <cite>SF_Okami posted [p:877622016] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote>I love Alaska tho :(</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Frostshock 04/21/17 10:36:16 AM #27:	P01ntyDmonspank posted... Frostshock posted... Using the power of context and reading comprehension, he's obviously referring to the fact that someone in Hawaii of all states is able to issue a judgment preventing increased border security for the 99% of the country that isn't isolated by thousands of miles of ocean. It's actually mind-boggling. What does he think about legislative branches largely composed of men constantly trying to limit abortion rights for women? I have no idea, but unless more women get into politics and get elected, then men will be the ones legislating women's health policies. And I'm not saying they do a good job at it. Just like how politicians all grew up pre-Internet, none of them have any real standing legislating modern technology either. --- Got questions about schoolwork? Want to share answers, or discuss your studies? Come to Homework Helpers! http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1060-homework-helpers <cite>Frostshock posted [p:877622531] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote><cite>P01ntyDmonspank posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Frostshock posted...</cite> <quote>Using the power of context and reading comprehension, he's obviously referring to the fact that someone in Hawaii of all states is able to issue a judgment preventing increased border security for the 99% of the country that isn't isolated by thousands of miles of ocean. It's actually mind-boggling.</quote> What does he think about legislative branches largely composed of men constantly trying to limit abortion rights for women?</quote> I have no idea, but unless more women get into politics and get elected, then men will be the ones legislating women's health policies. And I'm not saying they do a good job at it. Just like how politicians all grew up pre-Internet, none of them have any real standing legislating modern technology either.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
P01ntyDmonspank 04/21/17 10:39:12 AM #28:	Frostshock posted... I have no idea, but unless more women get into politics and get elected, then men will be the ones legislating women's health policies. Well America decided to overthrow the Hawaiian monarchy and absorb the islands into the nation and eventually granted them statehood. So unless he has a time machine and make sure that never happens they have the same rights as every other state. <cite>P01ntyDmonspank posted [p:877622697] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote><cite>Frostshock posted...</cite> <quote>I have no idea, but unless more women get into politics and get elected, then men will be the ones legislating women's health policies.</quote> Well America decided to overthrow the Hawaiian monarchy and absorb the islands into the nation and eventually granted them statehood. So unless he has a time machine and make sure that never happens they have the same rights as every other state.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XmasPikachu 04/21/17 10:41:30 AM #29:	Master_Bass posted... Yes, Hawaii should go back to being an independent kingdom, and let's sell Alaska back to Putin before he takes it. Where do you draw the line? Let's drop puerto rico too (not a state, I know) because they're brown, D.C., California and NY because they vote democrat and New Mexico because it's poor. Now we got 45 states. edit - just in case it wasn't clear, I mean this idea is really stupid <cite>XmasPikachu posted [p:877622825] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote><cite>Master_Bass posted...</cite> <quote>Yes, Hawaii should go back to being an independent kingdom, and let's sell Alaska back to Putin before he takes it.</quote> Where do you draw the line? Let's drop puerto rico too (not a state, I know) because they're brown, D.C., California and NY because they vote democrat and New Mexico because it's poor. Now we got 45 states. edit - just in case it wasn't clear, I mean this idea is really stupid</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 04/21/17 10:45:11 AM #30:	I don't think it's appropriate for the AG to publicly question the authority of federal judges regardless of what state they reside in --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:877623044] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote>I don't think it's appropriate for the AG to publicly question the authority of federal judges regardless of what state they reside in</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XmasPikachu 04/21/17 10:45:53 AM #31:	Here's a cool tidbit - Did you know there is a region where people are US Nationals but NOT US Citizens? American Samoa! They even get US Passports, they're the same but they have a little writing in the last page saying they're US Nationals but not Citizens. <cite>XmasPikachu posted [p:877623080] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote>Here's a cool tidbit - Did you know there is a region where people are US Nationals but NOT US Citizens? American Samoa! They even get US Passports, they're the same but they have a little writing in the last page saying they're US Nationals but not Citizens.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 04/21/17 10:50:30 AM #32:	They even get US Passports, they're the same but they have a little writing in the last page saying they're US Nationals but not Citizens. rekt --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:877623306] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote><quote>They even get US Passports, they're the same but they have a little writing in the last page saying they're US Nationals but not Citizens.</quote> rekt</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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P01ntyDmonspank 04/21/17 11:01:23 AM #35:	fenderbender321 posted... It doesn't sound like he's suggesting that at all. Aren't you that guy who white knights for rapists? <cite>P01ntyDmonspank posted [p:877623895] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>It doesn't sound like he's suggesting that at all.</quote> Aren't you that guy who white knights for rapists?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
treewojima 04/21/17 11:06:22 AM #36:	fenderbender321 posted... It doesn't sound like he's suggesting that at all. "I really am amazed that a judge sitting on an island in the Pacific can issue an order that stops the President of the United States from what appears to be clearly his statutory and Constitutional power." What is he suggesting, then? <cite>treewojima posted [p:877624179] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>It doesn't sound like he's suggesting that at all.</quote> "I really am amazed that a judge sitting on an island in the Pacific can issue an order that stops the President of the United States from what appears to be clearly his statutory and Constitutional power." What is he suggesting, then?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shin Kudo 04/21/17 11:18:41 AM #37:	DevsBro posted... You know what I never understood? Huh why ee Hawaii I believe the official/native spelling is Hawai'i. The ' is an actual letter in Hawaiian. If you wanna get deeper, it's pronounced Huh-vuh-ee --- http://imgur.com/WjiGN0g http://imgur.com/o2NVhgX <cite>Shin Kudo posted [p:877624813] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote><cite>DevsBro posted...</cite> <quote>You know what I never understood? Huh why ee Hawaii</quote> I believe the official/native spelling is Hawai'i. The ' is an actual letter in Hawaiian. If you wanna get deeper, it's pronounced Huh-vuh-ee</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CrimsonAngeI 04/21/17 11:38:02 AM #41:	toptopmax posted... So many angry Trumpanzees. Welcome to CE. --- Why am I here? <cite>CrimsonAngeI posted [p:877625743] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote><cite>toptopmax posted...</cite> <quote>So many angry Trumpanzees.</quote> Welcome to CE.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
treewojima 04/21/17 11:39:29 AM #42:	fenderbender321 posted... treewojima posted... fenderbender321 posted... It doesn't sound like he's suggesting that at all. "I really am amazed that a judge sitting on an island in the Pacific can issue an order that stops the President of the United States from what appears to be clearly his statutory and Constitutional power." What is he suggesting, then? That he's amazed by it? Maybe the situation put things into perspective. I don't see why you'd assume he's saying another state like say Idaho should have the power to do this, but no Hawaii. Maybe he is, but I don't see it that way. Amazed by what, that he's a Hawaiian judge? The "island in the Pacific" qualifier doesn't make sense unless viewed in the context of drawing attention to the locale. <cite>treewojima posted [p:877625804] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>treewojima posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>It doesn't sound like he's suggesting that at all.</quote> "I really am amazed that a judge sitting on an island in the Pacific can issue an order that stops the President of the United States from what appears to be clearly his statutory and Constitutional power." What is he suggesting, then?</quote> That he's amazed by it? Maybe the situation put things into perspective. I don't see why you'd assume he's saying another state like say Idaho should have the power to do this, but no Hawaii. Maybe he is, but I don't see it that way.</quote> Amazed by what, that he's a Hawaiian judge? The "island in the Pacific" qualifier doesn't make sense unless viewed in the context of drawing attention to the locale.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
P01ntyDmonspank 04/21/17 11:40:23 AM #43:	fenderbender321 posted... My ultimate goal is to put an end to rape once and for all. By making it not a crime to commit rape, I assume. <cite>P01ntyDmonspank posted [p:877625851] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>My ultimate goal is to put an end to rape once and for all.</quote> By making it not a crime to commit rape, I assume.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
garan 04/21/17 5:08:52 PM #44:	Hash-Brown posted... Hawaii is just a military base and a tourist trap. Agreed. It & Alaska are both less legitimate states. <cite>garan posted [p:877644897] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hash-Brown posted...</cite> <quote>Hawaii is just a military base and a tourist trap.</quote> Agreed. It & Alaska are both less legitimate states.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Key 04/21/17 9:26:53 PM #45:	DevsBro posted... You know what I never understood? Huh why ee Hawaii That's technically wrong. It's just the proper way is pretentious --- <:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;}]\\\\\\O=('-'Q) (>'-')> <('-'<) ^( '-' )^ v( '-' )v <('-'<) ^(_ _)^ (>'-')> ^(^-^) <cite>Key posted [p:877658664] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote><cite>DevsBro posted...</cite> <quote>You know what I never understood? Huh why ee Hawaii</quote> That's technically wrong. It's just the proper way is pretentious</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HiddenRoar 04/21/17 9:28:23 PM #46:	Asherlee10 posted... Why would Hawaii not be consider a legit state? The whole illegal 'domestic documents' used to make Hawaii into a state. I mean you pretend a coup, put the queen under house arrest, prop yourself and a few other white men up in charge of governing Hawaii under a provisional government, and request that the US annex Hawaii. Even President Cleveland found it to be illegal. They had to wait until McKinley took office for Hawaii to fall under US control. Of course, it's impractical to give up Hawaii as a State now, so... <cite>HiddenRoar posted [p:877658722] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>Why would Hawaii not be consider a legit state?</quote> The whole illegal 'domestic documents' used to make Hawaii into a state. I mean you pretend a coup, put the queen under house arrest, prop yourself and a few other white men up in charge of governing Hawaii under a provisional government, and request that the US annex Hawaii. Even President Cleveland found it to be illegal. They had to wait until McKinley took office for Hawaii to fall under US control. Of course, it's impractical to give up Hawaii as a State now, so...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Key 04/21/17 9:29:52 PM #47:	XmasPikachu posted... Here's a cool tidbit - Did you know there is a region where people are US Nationals but NOT US Citizens? American Samoa! They even get US Passports, they're the same but they have a little writing in the last page saying they're US Nationals but not Citizens. And Samoa is in a way worse position than Hawaii because of it. You know how many people from Samoa want to become citizens. Hell they waiver low scoring asvab scores there so that some of them can get into the military and become citizens --- <:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;}]\\\\\\O=('-'Q) (>'-')> <('-'<) ^( '-' )^ v( '-' )v <('-'<) ^(_ _)^ (>'-')> ^(^-^) <cite>Key posted [p:877658788] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote><cite>XmasPikachu posted...</cite> <quote>Here's a cool tidbit - Did you know there is a region where people are US Nationals but NOT US Citizens? American Samoa! They even get US Passports, they're the same but they have a little writing in the last page saying they're US Nationals but not Citizens.</quote> And Samoa is in a way worse position than Hawaii because of it. You know how many people from Samoa want to become citizens. Hell they waiver low scoring asvab scores there so that some of them can get into the military and become citizens</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 04/21/17 9:37:25 PM #48:	HiddenRoar posted... Asherlee10 posted... Why would Hawaii not be consider a legit state? The whole illegal 'domestic documents' used to make Hawaii into a state. I mean you pretend a coup, put the queen under house arrest, prop yourself and a few other white men up in charge of governing Hawaii under a provisional government, and request that the US annex Hawaii. Even President Cleveland found it to be illegal. They had to wait until McKinley took office for Hawaii to fall under US control. Of course, it's impractical to give up Hawaii as a State now, so... Uh... Hawaii became a state in 1959, when Eisenhower was the president. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:877659139] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote><cite>HiddenRoar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>Why would Hawaii not be consider a legit state?</quote> The whole illegal 'domestic documents' used to make Hawaii into a state. I mean you pretend a coup, put the queen under house arrest, prop yourself and a few other white men up in charge of governing Hawaii under a provisional government, and request that the US annex Hawaii. Even President Cleveland found it to be illegal. They had to wait until McKinley took office for Hawaii to fall under US control. Of course, it's impractical to give up Hawaii as a State now, so...</quote> Uh... Hawaii became a state in 1959, when Eisenhower was the president.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HiddenRoar 04/21/17 9:49:17 PM #49:	Questionmarktarius posted... Uh... Hawaii became a state in 1959, when Eisenhower was the president. A matter of formality. Hawaii lost it's sovereignty when it was annexed under the US in 1898. From there it was only a matter of time before it officially became incorporated into the US as a state. <cite>HiddenRoar posted [p:877659674] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote> Uh... Hawaii became a state in 1959, when Eisenhower was the president.</quote> A matter of formality. Hawaii lost it's sovereignty when it was annexed under the US in 1898. From there it was only a matter of time before it officially became incorporated into the US as a state.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 04/21/17 9:57:38 PM #50:	Wandering around google one day led me to this, which is somewhat amusing: http://img01.deviantart.net/5f99/i/2010/064/5/8/king_kamehameha_by_daimyodax.jpg HiddenRoar posted... Questionmarktarius posted... Uh... Hawaii became a state in 1959, when Eisenhower was the president. A matter of formality. Hawaii lost it's sovereignty when it was annexed under the US in 1898. From there it was only a matter of time before it officially became incorporated into the US as a state. Had the Japanese not bombed Pearl Harbor, it would have remained about as ignored as Guam and Puerto Rico. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:877660120] in Is Hawaii ... [t:75260251]...</cite> <quote>Wandering around google one day led me to this, which is somewhat amusing: http://img01.deviantart.net/5f99/i/2010/064/5/8/king_kamehameha_by_daimyodax.jpg <cite>HiddenRoar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote> Uh... Hawaii became a state in 1959, when Eisenhower was the president.</quote> A matter of formality. Hawaii lost it's sovereignty when it was annexed under the US in 1898. From there it was only a matter of time before it officially became incorporated into the US as a state.</quote> Had the Japanese not bombed Pearl Harbor, it would have remained about as ignored as Guam and Puerto Rico.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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