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darkprince45 04/14/17 5:54:22 PM #1:	It's the complete opposite of being progressive, I feel feminism and women in general would be against it? I don't get it seriously. It's like what Christianity was back in the day. --- Cubs, Rockies, A's, Grizzlies, Bulls, Cowboys, Patriots. <cite>darkprince45 posted [p:877202506] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>It's the complete opposite of being progressive, I feel feminism and women in general would be against it? I don't get it seriously. It's like what Christianity was back in the day.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 04/14/17 5:55:41 PM #2:	it's called a strawman dude <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:877202598] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>it's called a strawman dude</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 04/14/17 5:56:13 PM #3:	Oh look, this topic again --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:877202626] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>Oh look, this topic again</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 04/14/17 5:56:52 PM #4:	Progressives don't actually have progressive values. They're more accurately describes as "anti western culture" --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:877202656] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>Progressives don't actually have progressive values. They're more accurately describes as "anti western culture"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Frogles 04/14/17 5:57:08 PM #5:	because they're gigantic tools. all of them. --- Ahem...there's SAND on my boots! -Kefka 1951-0301-9911 <cite>Frogles posted [p:877202669] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>because they're gigantic tools. all of them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 04/14/17 5:57:15 PM #6:	I think we overestimate the amount of people that support Islamic beliefs compared to not supporting the right to have Islamic beliefs. I think Islam is extremely violent and a cancer upon the world, but there are good or at least law-abiding people that don't deserve any backlash for the actions of other Muslims. I don't care if 95% of Muslims were terrorists. That would still mean 5% aren't. Leave those innocents alone. I never support generalizations. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:877202685] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>I think we overestimate the amount of people that support Islamic beliefs compared to not supporting the right to have Islamic beliefs. I think Islam is extremely violent and a cancer upon the world, but there are good or at least law-abiding people that don't deserve any backlash for the actions of other Muslims. I don't care if 95% of Muslims were terrorists. That would still mean 5% aren't. Leave those innocents alone. I never support generalizations.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RebelElite791 04/14/17 5:57:20 PM #7:	0/10 for effort Mal_Fet posted... Progressives don't actually have progressive values. They're more accurately describes as "anti western culture" You grow more and more insane by the day. --- http://i.imgur.com/MS5SvzN.gif https://i.imgur.com/ahQpG57.jpg <cite>RebelElite791 posted [p:877202688] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>0/10 for effort <cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Progressives don't actually have progressive values. They're more accurately describes as "anti western culture"</quote> You grow more and more insane by the day.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Iodine 04/14/17 5:57:38 PM #8:	Do you really see liberals defending Islamic beliefs, or do you see them defending Muslims right to peacefully practice their religion? --- In Belichick we Trust <cite>Iodine posted [p:877202710] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>Do you really see liberals defending Islamic beliefs, or do you see them defending Muslims right to peacefully practice their religion?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
organicbamf 04/14/17 5:57:49 PM #9:	Frogles posted... because they're gigantic tools. all of them. damn, i wish i could write off entire groups of people based one one simple preconception of them oh wait, no i don't, because that's fucking retarded --- get ready for a backside attack ;) <cite>organicbamf posted [p:877202722] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>Frogles posted...</cite> <quote>because they're gigantic tools. all of them.</quote> damn, i wish i could write off entire groups of people based one one simple preconception of them oh wait, no i don't, because that's fucking retarded</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 04/14/17 5:58:07 PM #10:	I'm not. If you can't understand the difference between being for a belief 100% and defending innocent people who shouldn't be attacked because of extremists then you're a lost cause. This discussion is getting incredibly old. You realize that Christianity has changed and adapted over the years right? Many Muslims are trying to do the same for Islam. Remove that aspect of hate and violence. Many don't agree with it all. But people like TC lump those people in with terrorists and make it impossible for them to change things. "Omg that's Old Testament not New Testament it doesn't matter anymore!"....millions of Muslims are trying to get to that point too. Help them do it. Don't group them in with extremists idiots who are using the religion for selfish gain. <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:877202736] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>I'm not. If you can't understand the difference between being for a belief 100% and defending innocent people who shouldn't be attacked because of extremists then you're a lost cause. This discussion is getting incredibly old. You realize that Christianity has changed and adapted over the years right? Many Muslims are trying to do the same for Islam. Remove that aspect of hate and violence. Many don't agree with it all. But people like TC lump those people in with terrorists and make it impossible for them to change things. "Omg that's Old Testament not New Testament it doesn't matter anymore!"....millions of Muslims are trying to get to that point too. Help them do it. Don't group them in with extremists idiots who are using the religion for selfish gain.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HylianFox 04/14/17 5:58:33 PM #11:	It's not so much condoning their belief as saying that they shouldn't be persecuted/discriminated against for being Muslim. --- I like my beer cold, my TV loud, and my homosexuals FUH-LAMING! - Homer Simpson i.imgur.com/a2EzoIs.gif i.imgur.com/rPcGRiP.gif <cite>HylianFox posted [p:877202761] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>It's not so much condoning their belief as saying that they shouldn't be persecuted/discriminated against for being Muslim.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Milkman5 04/14/17 5:58:34 PM #12:	it's just a meme. Rich people with a disconnect with reality. Look at Ben Affleck's Bill Maher meltdown <cite>Milkman5 posted [p:877202762] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>it's just a meme. Rich people with a disconnect with reality. Look at Ben Affleck's Bill Maher meltdown</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MixedMartialArt 04/14/17 5:58:35 PM #13:	I'm for anyone of any religion practicing it peacefully. --- http://i.imgur.com/RqAZRVj.gif <cite>MixedMartialArt posted [p:877202763] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>I'm for anyone of any religion practicing it peacefully.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 04/14/17 5:59:14 PM #14:	Mal_Fet posted... Progressives don't actually have progressive values. They're more accurately describes as "anti western culture" Maybe we should stop using progressive to describe regressives then. It makes it hard when you are actually in favor of progress. This ironic usage is hurting a perfectly good word. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:877202802] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Progressives don't actually have progressive values. They're more accurately describes as "anti western culture"</quote> Maybe we should stop using progressive to describe regressives then. It makes it hard when you are actually in favor of progress. This ironic usage is hurting a perfectly good word.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Milkman5 04/14/17 5:59:53 PM #15:	actually, the older I get the more I realize liberalism in general is just a PR thing. People say certain things because they think they will be liked by other people and not much thought goes into anything they say or believe <cite>Milkman5 posted [p:877202838] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>actually, the older I get the more I realize liberalism in general is just a PR thing. People say certain things because they think they will be liked by other people and not much thought goes into anything they say or believe</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkprince45 04/14/17 6:00:24 PM #16:	Idk man. It's like saying 11/12 eggs are bad and one egg is still good, we can't throw it away. --- Cubs, Rockies, A's, Grizzlies, Bulls, Cowboys, Patriots. <cite>darkprince45 posted [p:877202864] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>Idk man. It's like saying 11/12 eggs are bad and one egg is still good, we can't throw it away.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HylianFox 04/14/17 6:00:51 PM #17:	Milkman5 posted... actually, the older I get the more I realize liberalism in general is just a PR thing. People say certain things because they think they will be liked by other people and not much thought goes into anything they say or believe sounds like most conservatives to me, they constantly support people who are against their own best interests --- I like my beer cold, my TV loud, and my homosexuals FUH-LAMING! - Homer Simpson i.imgur.com/a2EzoIs.gif i.imgur.com/rPcGRiP.gif <cite>HylianFox posted [p:877202891] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>Milkman5 posted...</cite> <quote>actually, the older I get the more I realize liberalism in general is just a PR thing. People say certain things because they think they will be liked by other people and not much thought goes into anything they say or believe</quote> sounds like most conservatives to me, they constantly support people who are against their own best interests</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 04/14/17 6:01:41 PM #18:	I'm of the opinion that either all religions are allowed to practice or none are. Freedom of religion applies to them all regardless of your opinions on them. Personally I think the world would be better if all religion ceased to exist Islamic practices in the middle east are barbaric but if they move to a non islamic majority country and obey the laws while still practicing their religion I don't see a problem <cite>Axiom posted [p:877202929] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>I'm of the opinion that either all religions are allowed to practice or none are. Freedom of religion applies to them all regardless of your opinions on them. Personally I think the world would be better if all religion ceased to exist Islamic practices in the middle east are barbaric but if they move to a non islamic majority country and obey the laws while still practicing their religion I don't see a problem</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
action52 04/14/17 6:02:14 PM #19:	In the TC's mind (like most conservative shills) saying that Muslims should be treated with the same respect and decency as everyone else is basically the same as having a full conversion to Islam. --- -sent from an old rotary phone <cite>action52 posted [p:877202956] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>In the TC's mind (like most conservative shills) saying that Muslims should be treated with the same respect and decency as everyone else is basically the same as having a full conversion to Islam.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 04/14/17 6:02:43 PM #20:	hockeybub89 posted... Mal_Fet posted... Progressives don't actually have progressive values. They're more accurately describes as "anti western culture" Maybe we should stop using progressive to describe regressives then. It makes it hard when you are actually in favor of progress. This ironic usage is hurting a perfectly good word. It's not quite that simple. "Progressives" with regressive views view any tolerance of minority groups as progress, so they have no idea their views are regressive. They think Muslims are a minority group (even though they're not, and no external group is oppressing them), so defending them is "progressive" when they're being criticized, especially when they're being criticized by folks in traditional western "power groups" (i.e. whites and Christians). --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:877202991] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Progressives don't actually have progressive values. They're more accurately describes as "anti western culture"</quote> Maybe we should stop using progressive to describe regressives then. It makes it hard when you are actually in favor of progress. This ironic usage is hurting a perfectly good word.</quote> It's not quite that simple. "Progressives" with regressive views view any tolerance of minority groups as progress, so they have no idea their views are regressive. They think Muslims are a minority group (even though they're not, and no external group is oppressing them), so defending them is "progressive" when they're being criticized, especially when they're being criticized by folks in traditional western "power groups" (i.e. whites and Christians).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkprince45 04/14/17 6:02:43 PM #21:	I'm not a conservative lol --- Cubs, Rockies, A's, Grizzlies, Bulls, Cowboys, Patriots. <cite>darkprince45 posted [p:877202992] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>I'm not a conservative lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
faizan_faizan 04/14/17 6:03:59 PM #22:	darkprince45 posted... I'm not a conservative lol What are these 'Islamic beliefs'? --- Allergic to bull****. <cite>faizan_faizan posted [p:877203059] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkprince45 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not a conservative lol</quote> What are these 'Islamic beliefs'?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkprince45 04/14/17 6:05:49 PM #23:	Quran.jpg Aka the thing I wasn't allowed to touch and see for a year or all hell would break loose overseas That alone speaks volume to me about people's religion --- Cubs, Rockies, A's, Grizzlies, Bulls, Cowboys, Patriots. <cite>darkprince45 posted [p:877203161] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>Quran.jpg Aka the thing I wasn't allowed to touch and see for a year or all hell would break loose overseas That alone speaks volume to me about people's religion</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vertania 04/14/17 6:05:57 PM #24:	TheVipaGTS posted... Many Muslims are trying to do the same for Islam. Remove that aspect of hate and violence. Many don't agree with it all. But people like TC lump those people in with terrorists and make it impossible for them to change things. The Quran itself makes it impossible to change things. <cite>Vertania posted [p:877203167] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>Many Muslims are trying to do the same for Islam. Remove that aspect of hate and violence. Many don't agree with it all. But people like TC lump those people in with terrorists and make it impossible for them to change things.</quote> The Quran itself makes it impossible to change things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 04/14/17 6:06:10 PM #25:	It's because of identity politics. The right wing is very against Islam and so identity politics takes over the left and tries to make them pro Islam. It's the same reason Trump backed coal. It's the same reason Romney argued against Obamacare despite it being almost identical to Romneycare. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:877203175] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>It's because of identity politics. The right wing is very against Islam and so identity politics takes over the left and tries to make them pro Islam. It's the same reason Trump backed coal. It's the same reason Romney argued against Obamacare despite it being almost identical to Romneycare.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RebelElite791 04/14/17 6:06:25 PM #26:	Vertania posted... TheVipaGTS posted... Many Muslims are trying to do the same for Islam. Remove that aspect of hate and violence. Many don't agree with it all. But people like TC lump those people in with terrorists and make it impossible for them to change things. The Quran itself makes it impossible to change things. Why are all Muslims bound to the original rules of their religion but not Christians or Jews? --- http://i.imgur.com/MS5SvzN.gif https://i.imgur.com/ahQpG57.jpg <cite>RebelElite791 posted [p:877203186] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vertania posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>Many Muslims are trying to do the same for Islam. Remove that aspect of hate and violence. Many don't agree with it all. But people like TC lump those people in with terrorists and make it impossible for them to change things.</quote> The Quran itself makes it impossible to change things.</quote> Why are all Muslims bound to the original rules of their religion but not Christians or Jews?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MaverickXeo 04/14/17 6:07:34 PM #27:	Iodine posted... Do you really see liberals defending Islamic beliefs, or do you see them defending Muslims right to peacefully practice their religion? My country's leader supports and takes part in Islamic practice on occasion (including the separation of men and women)... and hes a liberal. --- --- MaverickXeo --- <cite>MaverickXeo posted [p:877203247] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>Iodine posted...</cite> <quote>Do you really see liberals defending Islamic beliefs, or do you see them defending Muslims right to peacefully practice their religion?</quote> My country's leader supports and takes part in Islamic practice on occasion (including the separation of men and women)... and hes a liberal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkprince45 04/14/17 6:09:23 PM #28:	RebelElite791 posted... Vertania posted... TheVipaGTS posted... Many Muslims are trying to do the same for Islam. Remove that aspect of hate and violence. Many don't agree with it all. But people like TC lump those people in with terrorists and make it impossible for them to change things. The Quran itself makes it impossible to change things. Why are all Muslims bound to the original rules of their religion but not Christians or Jews? That's kind obvious, other countries especially the Middle East are hardcore fanatics. The hardcore fanatics are becoming smaller and smaller in America. Also, the government is going to send you to jail for not believing. God believers in the US are so different and shit --- Cubs, Rockies, A's, Grizzlies, Bulls, Cowboys, Patriots. <cite>darkprince45 posted [p:877203357] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>RebelElite791 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vertania posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>Many Muslims are trying to do the same for Islam. Remove that aspect of hate and violence. Many don't agree with it all. But people like TC lump those people in with terrorists and make it impossible for them to change things.</quote> The Quran itself makes it impossible to change things.</quote> Why are all Muslims bound to the original rules of their religion but not Christians or Jews?</quote> That's kind obvious, other countries especially the Middle East are hardcore fanatics. The hardcore fanatics are becoming smaller and smaller in America. Also, the government is going to send you to jail for not believing. God believers in the US are so different and shit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 04/14/17 6:09:56 PM #29:	RebelElite791 posted... Vertania posted... TheVipaGTS posted... Many Muslims are trying to do the same for Islam. Remove that aspect of hate and violence. Many don't agree with it all. But people like TC lump those people in with terrorists and make it impossible for them to change things. The Quran itself makes it impossible to change things. Why are all Muslims bound to the original rules of their religion but not Christians or Jews? Because they haven't had a cultural renaissance like those other religions did, where they moved beyond those prehistoric notions (in fact, they've gone backwards since the Islamic Golden Age). Until they do, those religious views are a danger to the western world and all the progressive views you claim are important to you. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:877203382] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>RebelElite791 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vertania posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>Many Muslims are trying to do the same for Islam. Remove that aspect of hate and violence. Many don't agree with it all. But people like TC lump those people in with terrorists and make it impossible for them to change things.</quote> The Quran itself makes it impossible to change things.</quote> Why are all Muslims bound to the original rules of their religion but not Christians or Jews?</quote> Because they haven't had a cultural renaissance like those other religions did, where they moved beyond those prehistoric notions (in fact, they've gone backwards since the Islamic Golden Age). Until they do, those religious views are a danger to the western world and all the progressive views you claim are important to you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RebelElite791 04/14/17 6:10:11 PM #30:	darkprince45 posted... RebelElite791 posted... Vertania posted... TheVipaGTS posted... Many Muslims are trying to do the same for Islam. Remove that aspect of hate and violence. Many don't agree with it all. But people like TC lump those people in with terrorists and make it impossible for them to change things. The Quran itself makes it impossible to change things. Why are all Muslims bound to the original rules of their religion but not Christians or Jews? That's kind obvious, other countries especially the Middle East are hardcore fanatics. The hardcore fanatics are becoming smaller and smaller in America. Also, the government is going to send you to jail for not believing. God believers in the US are so different and shit He wasn't talking about that. He was specifically talking about tolerant Muslims who want to modernize the religion and Vertania says that's impossible because of the Quran. --- http://i.imgur.com/MS5SvzN.gif https://i.imgur.com/ahQpG57.jpg <cite>RebelElite791 posted [p:877203389] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkprince45 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RebelElite791 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vertania posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>Many Muslims are trying to do the same for Islam. Remove that aspect of hate and violence. Many don't agree with it all. But people like TC lump those people in with terrorists and make it impossible for them to change things.</quote> The Quran itself makes it impossible to change things.</quote> Why are all Muslims bound to the original rules of their religion but not Christians or Jews?</quote> That's kind obvious, other countries especially the Middle East are hardcore fanatics. The hardcore fanatics are becoming smaller and smaller in America. Also, the government is going to send you to jail for not believing. God believers in the US are so different and shit</quote> He wasn't talking about that. He was specifically talking about tolerant Muslims who want to modernize the religion and Vertania says that's impossible because of the Quran.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RebelElite791 04/14/17 6:11:02 PM #31:	The Admiral posted... Until they do, those religious views are a danger to the western world and all the progressive views you claim are important to you. All conservative and traditional religious views are a danger to humanity as a whole. That has nothing to do with not condemning peaceful practicioners. --- http://i.imgur.com/MS5SvzN.gif https://i.imgur.com/ahQpG57.jpg <cite>RebelElite791 posted [p:877203430] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Until they do, those religious views are a danger to the western world and all the progressive views you claim are important to you.</quote> All conservative and traditional religious views are a danger to humanity as a whole. That has nothing to do with not condemning peaceful practicioners.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 04/14/17 6:11:23 PM #32:	Vertania posted... TheVipaGTS posted... Many Muslims are trying to do the same for Islam. Remove that aspect of hate and violence. Many don't agree with it all. But people like TC lump those people in with terrorists and make it impossible for them to change things. The Quran itself makes it impossible to change things. Where in the Bible does it say you can change it? <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:877203454] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vertania posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>Many Muslims are trying to do the same for Islam. Remove that aspect of hate and violence. Many don't agree with it all. But people like TC lump those people in with terrorists and make it impossible for them to change things.</quote> The Quran itself makes it impossible to change things.</quote> Where in the Bible does it say you can change it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkprince45 04/14/17 6:12:31 PM #34:	TheVipaGTS posted... Vertania posted... TheVipaGTS posted... Many Muslims are trying to do the same for Islam. Remove that aspect of hate and violence. Many don't agree with it all. But people like TC lump those people in with terrorists and make it impossible for them to change things. The Quran itself makes it impossible to change things. Where in the Bible does it say you can change it? Probably things like the old and New Testament, pope allowing to eat meat this year and shit --- Cubs, Rockies, A's, Grizzlies, Bulls, Cowboys, Patriots. <cite>darkprince45 posted [p:877203529] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vertania posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>Many Muslims are trying to do the same for Islam. Remove that aspect of hate and violence. Many don't agree with it all. But people like TC lump those people in with terrorists and make it impossible for them to change things.</quote> The Quran itself makes it impossible to change things.</quote> Where in the Bible does it say you can change it?</quote> Probably things like the old and New Testament, pope allowing to eat meat this year and shit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
faizan_faizan 04/14/17 6:12:39 PM #35:	The Admiral posted... RebelElite791 posted... Vertania posted... TheVipaGTS posted... Many Muslims are trying to do the same for Islam. Remove that aspect of hate and violence. Many don't agree with it all. But people like TC lump those people in with terrorists and make it impossible for them to change things. The Quran itself makes it impossible to change things. Why are all Muslims bound to the original rules of their religion but not Christians or Jews? Because they haven't had a cultural renaissance like those other religions did, where they moved beyond those prehistoric notions (in fact, they've gone backwards since the Islamic Golden Age). Until they do, those religious views are a danger to the western world and all the progressive views you claim are important to you. Just out of curiosity, are you a Christian? --- Allergic to bull****. <cite>faizan_faizan posted [p:877203540] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RebelElite791 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vertania posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>Many Muslims are trying to do the same for Islam. Remove that aspect of hate and violence. Many don't agree with it all. But people like TC lump those people in with terrorists and make it impossible for them to change things.</quote> The Quran itself makes it impossible to change things.</quote> Why are all Muslims bound to the original rules of their religion but not Christians or Jews?</quote> Because they haven't had a cultural renaissance like those other religions did, where they moved beyond those prehistoric notions (in fact, they've gone backwards since the Islamic Golden Age). Until they do, those religious views are a danger to the western world and all the progressive views you claim are important to you.</quote> Just out of curiosity, are you a Christian?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
action52 04/14/17 6:15:43 PM #36:	RebelElite791 posted... Vertania posted... TheVipaGTS posted... Many Muslims are trying to do the same for Islam. Remove that aspect of hate and violence. Many don't agree with it all. But people like TC lump those people in with terrorists and make it impossible for them to change things. The Quran itself makes it impossible to change things. Why are all Muslims bound to the original rules of their religion but not Christians or Jews? Even more ridiculous because Muslims already have changed their beliefs. If all Muslims believed the exact same things, there would only be one sect of Islam and they would all agree on everything. Instead we have Muslims who are being MURDERED because they don't want to accept ISIS's beliefs. --- -sent from an old rotary phone <cite>action52 posted [p:877203735] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>RebelElite791 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vertania posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>Many Muslims are trying to do the same for Islam. Remove that aspect of hate and violence. Many don't agree with it all. But people like TC lump those people in with terrorists and make it impossible for them to change things.</quote> The Quran itself makes it impossible to change things.</quote> Why are all Muslims bound to the original rules of their religion but not Christians or Jews?</quote> Even more ridiculous because Muslims already have changed their beliefs. If all Muslims believed the exact same things, there would only be one sect of Islam and they would all agree on everything. Instead we have Muslims who are being MURDERED because they don't want to accept ISIS's beliefs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 04/14/17 6:15:44 PM #37:	faizan_faizan posted... The Admiral posted... RebelElite791 posted... Vertania posted... TheVipaGTS posted... Many Muslims are trying to do the same for Islam. Remove that aspect of hate and violence. Many don't agree with it all. But people like TC lump those people in with terrorists and make it impossible for them to change things. The Quran itself makes it impossible to change things. Why are all Muslims bound to the original rules of their religion but not Christians or Jews? Because they haven't had a cultural renaissance like those other religions did, where they moved beyond those prehistoric notions (in fact, they've gone backwards since the Islamic Golden Age). Until they do, those religious views are a danger to the western world and all the progressive views you claim are important to you. Just out of curiosity, are you a Christian? How is that relevant to my comment? --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:877203736] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>faizan_faizan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RebelElite791 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vertania posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>Many Muslims are trying to do the same for Islam. Remove that aspect of hate and violence. Many don't agree with it all. But people like TC lump those people in with terrorists and make it impossible for them to change things.</quote> The Quran itself makes it impossible to change things.</quote> Why are all Muslims bound to the original rules of their religion but not Christians or Jews?</quote> Because they haven't had a cultural renaissance like those other religions did, where they moved beyond those prehistoric notions (in fact, they've gone backwards since the Islamic Golden Age). Until they do, those religious views are a danger to the western world and all the progressive views you claim are important to you.</quote> Just out of curiosity, are you a Christian?</quote> How is that relevant to my comment?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
garan 04/14/17 6:15:59 PM #38:	hockeybub89 posted... Mal_Fet posted... Progressives don't actually have progressive values. They're more accurately describes as "anti western culture" Maybe we should stop using progressive to describe regressives then. It makes it hard when you are actually in favor of progress. This ironic usage is hurting a perfectly good word. The regressive behavior of the far left is disgusting and un-American. <cite>garan posted [p:877203744] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Progressives don't actually have progressive values. They're more accurately describes as "anti western culture"</quote> Maybe we should stop using progressive to describe regressives then. It makes it hard when you are actually in favor of progress. This ironic usage is hurting a perfectly good word.</quote> The regressive behavior of the far left is disgusting and un-American.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RebelElite791 04/14/17 6:18:15 PM #40:	action52 posted... Instead we have Muslims who are being MURDERED because they don't want to accept ISIS's beliefs. People here were literally arguing the other day that because ISIS doesn't see those people as legitimate Muslims, they don't actually count as Muslim victims of ISIS, lol. --- http://i.imgur.com/MS5SvzN.gif https://i.imgur.com/ahQpG57.jpg <cite>RebelElite791 posted [p:877203872] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>action52 posted...</cite> <quote> Instead we have Muslims who are being MURDERED because they don't want to accept ISIS's beliefs.</quote> People here were literally arguing the other day that because ISIS doesn't see those people as legitimate Muslims, they don't actually count as Muslim victims of ISIS, lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
faizan_faizan 04/14/17 6:19:17 PM #41:	The Admiral posted... faizan_faizan posted... The Admiral posted... RebelElite791 posted... Vertania posted... TheVipaGTS posted... Many Muslims are trying to do the same for Islam. Remove that aspect of hate and violence. Many don't agree with it all. But people like TC lump those people in with terrorists and make it impossible for them to change things. The Quran itself makes it impossible to change things. Why are all Muslims bound to the original rules of their religion but not Christians or Jews? Because they haven't had a cultural renaissance like those other religions did, where they moved beyond those prehistoric notions (in fact, they've gone backwards since the Islamic Golden Age). Until they do, those religious views are a danger to the western world and all the progressive views you claim are important to you. Just out of curiosity, are you a Christian? How is that relevant to my comment? It's not. Are you going to answer my question? --- Allergic to bull****. <cite>faizan_faizan posted [p:877203930] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>faizan_faizan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RebelElite791 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vertania posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>Many Muslims are trying to do the same for Islam. Remove that aspect of hate and violence. Many don't agree with it all. But people like TC lump those people in with terrorists and make it impossible for them to change things.</quote> The Quran itself makes it impossible to change things.</quote> Why are all Muslims bound to the original rules of their religion but not Christians or Jews?</quote> Because they haven't had a cultural renaissance like those other religions did, where they moved beyond those prehistoric notions (in fact, they've gone backwards since the Islamic Golden Age). Until they do, those religious views are a danger to the western world and all the progressive views you claim are important to you.</quote> Just out of curiosity, are you a Christian?</quote> How is that relevant to my comment?</quote> It's not. Are you going to answer my question?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wedge Antilles 04/14/17 6:20:30 PM #43:	I believe the attitude is less "I'm pro muslim" and more "people have the right to believe whatever they want as long as they do it peacefully and don't effect others negatively with that belief". --- I used the knife. I saved a child. I won a war. God forgive me. <cite>Wedge Antilles posted [p:877203999] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>I believe the attitude is less "I'm pro muslim" and more "people have the right to believe whatever they want as long as they do it peacefully and don't effect others negatively with that belief".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RebelElite791 04/14/17 6:20:46 PM #44:	Wedge Antilles posted... I believe the attitude is less "I'm pro muslim" and more "people have the right to believe whatever they want as long as they do it peacefully and don't effect others negatively with that belief". 2logic4me --- http://i.imgur.com/MS5SvzN.gif https://i.imgur.com/ahQpG57.jpg <cite>RebelElite791 posted [p:877204015] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>Wedge Antilles posted...</cite> <quote>I believe the attitude is less "I'm pro muslim" and more "people have the right to believe whatever they want as long as they do it peacefully and don't effect others negatively with that belief".</quote> 2logic4me</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 04/14/17 6:25:06 PM #45:	darkprince45 posted... TheVipaGTS posted... Vertania posted... TheVipaGTS posted... Many Muslims are trying to do the same for Islam. Remove that aspect of hate and violence. Many don't agree with it all. But people like TC lump those people in with terrorists and make it impossible for them to change things. The Quran itself makes it impossible to change things. Where in the Bible does it say you can change it? Probably things like the old and New Testament, pope allowing to eat meat this year and shit So where in the Bible does god say this can be done? Sounds like it's modern Christians and Catholics who opted to change things like many modern Muslims want to. What a concept! Does the Old Testament say things can be changed or did that just come about by modern people of the time? <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:877204275] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkprince45 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vertania posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>Many Muslims are trying to do the same for Islam. Remove that aspect of hate and violence. Many don't agree with it all. But people like TC lump those people in with terrorists and make it impossible for them to change things.</quote> The Quran itself makes it impossible to change things.</quote> Where in the Bible does it say you can change it?</quote> Probably things like the old and New Testament, pope allowing to eat meat this year and shit</quote> So where in the Bible does god say this can be done? Sounds like it's modern Christians and Catholics who opted to change things like many modern Muslims want to. What a concept! Does the Old Testament say things can be changed or did that just come about by modern people of the time?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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monkmith 04/14/17 6:26:43 PM #47:	ah, the new conservative circle jerk topic. hope everyone brought their goggles. --- People die when they are killed. Among horse, Red Hare. Among men, Lu Bu. <cite>monkmith posted [p:877204364] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>ah, the new conservative circle jerk topic. hope everyone brought their goggles.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 04/14/17 6:31:01 PM #48:	We're not. Source: liberal --- CE's Resident Scotsman. http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z316/CeliaOfTheSky/Pinky0926.jpg <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:877204599] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>We're not. Source: liberal</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vertania 04/14/17 6:33:33 PM #49:	RebelElite791 posted... Why are all Muslims bound to the original rules of their religion but not Christians or Jews? Because wanting the words of God changed paints that person as a non-believer. The Quran calls for non-believers to be killed, while the Bible (and probably Jews, idk) just says to shun them basically and let them go to Hell on their own. TheVipaGTS posted... So where in the Bible does god say this can be done? The part where it doesn't say "kill anyone who tries to change it." <cite>Vertania posted [p:877204738] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>RebelElite791 posted...</cite> <quote>Why are all Muslims bound to the original rules of their religion but not Christians or Jews?</quote> Because wanting the words of God changed paints that person as a non-believer. The Quran calls for non-believers to be killed, while the Bible (and probably Jews, idk) just says to shun them basically and let them go to Hell on their own. <cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>So where in the Bible does god say this can be done?</quote> The part where it doesn't say "kill anyone who tries to change it."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
action52 04/14/17 6:34:31 PM #50:	garan posted... hockeybub89 posted... Mal_Fet posted... Progressives don't actually have progressive values. They're more accurately describes as "anti western culture" Maybe we should stop using progressive to describe regressives then. It makes it hard when you are actually in favor of progress. This ironic usage is hurting a perfectly good word. The regressive behavior of the far left is disgusting and un-American. Hey, why don't you guys get a room and circle jerk there? You can look at a picture of a crying liberal or something while you do it. --- -sent from an old rotary phone <cite>action52 posted [p:877204798] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>garan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Progressives don't actually have progressive values. They're more accurately describes as "anti western culture"</quote> Maybe we should stop using progressive to describe regressives then. It makes it hard when you are actually in favor of progress. This ironic usage is hurting a perfectly good word.</quote> The regressive behavior of the far left is disgusting and un-American.</quote> Hey, why don't you guys get a room and circle jerk there? You can look at a picture of a crying liberal or something while you do it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Soviet_Poland 04/14/17 6:43:30 PM #51:	The difference between Western muslims who practice Islam, and the uneducated indoctrinated radicals are like night and day. Just because I'm not a fan of blanket statements because of someone's inability to tease apart something so black and white, and instead just compartmentalizes it into one broad category does not mean I at all whatsoever support the latter. With respect to the former, I really don't see any real difference between Western muslims' Islam, and Christianity. Both highlight basic universal morals with idiosyncrasies of how they choose to live their life that in no way implies they're forcing that onto others. I'll eat a sausage pizza with a beer in front of my muslim friends and they take zero offense to it. I'm also first generation American, so a lot of my friends are first gen from pretty much any background you can think of. Assimilation to American culture is a lot more rapid than people give credit to, so I can't help but not take some internet stranger seriously when they claim otherwise. Again, I'm not for Islam because I don't believe in any faith. I'm just against hypocrisy. --- "He has two neurons held together by a spirochete." <cite>Soviet_Poland posted [p:877205300] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>The difference between Western muslims who practice Islam, and the uneducated indoctrinated radicals are like night and day. Just because I'm not a fan of blanket statements because of someone's inability to tease apart something so black and white, and instead just compartmentalizes it into one broad category does not mean I at all whatsoever support the latter. With respect to the former, I really don't see any real difference between Western muslims' Islam, and Christianity. Both highlight basic universal morals with idiosyncrasies of how they choose to live their life that in no way implies they're forcing that onto others. I'll eat a sausage pizza with a beer in front of my muslim friends and they take zero offense to it. I'm also first generation American, so a lot of my friends are first gen from pretty much any background you can think of. Assimilation to American culture is a lot more rapid than people give credit to, so I can't help but not take some internet stranger seriously when they claim otherwise. Again, I'm not for Islam because I don't believe in any faith. I'm just against hypocrisy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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