Poll of the Day > Hey BTB

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Am I supposed to get one shotted by leafers the second I walk out of Narshe?
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did you steal from them?
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Yeah, that seems to be the issue.
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One of the guys in the Beginner's School tells you that you should only steal from humanoid enemies. It made things easier for me since I had far fewer enemy steals to balance, and it's easier on the player since you now have a clear visual RE: which enemies to steal from instead of just trying to steal from everything.
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I suppose you could just put the "doesn't have anything" on every non human enemy.
Although I imagine there are a few enemies that one could argue over whether they're really "humanoids" or not, like the magitek roaders.
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Zareth posted...

I suppose you could just put the "doesn't have anything" on every non human enemy.

Yeah, but that message doesn't sink in as quickly as "I stole from a bunny and it fucked my shit up".
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Zareth posted...

I suppose you could just put the "doesn't have anything" on every non human enemy.
Although I imagine there are a few enemies that one could argue over whether they're really "humanoids" or not, like the magitek roaders.

Where's the fun in that?
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I can't be the only one who always thought the Templar shields looked like folding chairs.
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Oh, they totally look like folding chairs.
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Beat the phantom train with only Shadow left alive at 4 HP.
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Really, dude? Red Bull? >_>
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It gives you wings >.>
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Wow, Dadaluma is an annoying son of a bitch.
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It's the first boss fight of the game where you have total control over your party composition and many more choices than before, so that's where the gloves come off.
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@BTB booty pix now?

I actually got in a few near-death attacks on Dadaluma. I finished him off with Edgar's kingspear while everyone else was dead.
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Do those early enemies still have the seemingly useless garbage on them that can be stolen (assuming people have the health for it)?
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Gum bits? Yeah.
"Stay away from the inn, the owner touches people while they sleep."
Thanks for the info.
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Zareth posted...

Gum bits? Yeah.
"Stay away from the inn, the owner touches people while they sleep."
Thanks for the info.

Cool. When you can stand to steal from those weaker monsters, I recommend holding on to those until way later in the game. I won't spoil the how or why though.
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Gum pod, actually. It's a Dragon Warrior IV reference (and a bowlderization of the item's actual name: dung)
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My only real complaint so far is "too many references."
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It's a common complaint, especially given that there are many more than most people notice.
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Is there any reason you got rid of the hidden chests in the cave to the sealed gate?
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To save space, we consolidated the four of them into one.

Space constraints were a huge issue in pretty much every way.
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It's a common complaint, especially given that there are many more than most people notice.

Did you ever make a list? I'm curious (though I haven't played since you brought it up om the FCSB - v1.6 or so IIRC).
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BTB posted...

To save space, we consolidated the four of them into one.

Space constraints were a huge issue in pretty much every way.

Plus I'm sure the mere idea of less chests made Synchisi (sp?) leap for joy, or something.
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Let me guess, you made the soldiers at the banquet super hard to kill so getting the maximum amount of points is a pain in the ass, right?
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KeyBlade999 posted...

It's a common complaint, especially given that there are many more than most people notice.

Did you ever make a list? I'm curious (though I haven't played since you brought it up om the FCSB - v1.6 or so IIRC).

The Unlockme has a full list of every (intentional) reference along with developer's commentary and such.

Zareth posted...

Let me guess, you made the soldiers at the banquet super hard to kill so getting the maximum amount of points is a pain in the ass, right?

Not really intentionally, but they do shrug off a lot of attacks.
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Do you have a list of all the shit you can miss forever in the WoB? I'm about to do the floating continent.
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I don't really like missables, so there really aren't any.

There's a few rages you can potentially miss if you don't unlock the formations, but the areas you can't go back to have their encounters hidden on the world map.
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-BTB, May 2013

Was looking in the readme and saw that.

Goddamn it's hard to think it's been that long since I touched this.
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BTB posted...

I don't really like missables, so there really aren't any.

GOOD MAN.
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Is there a reason why the rising sun weapon is sometimes orange and sometimes grey? Bug maybe?
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I believe it's related to the random "throw" GFX. Never did notice that the color is different on the proc.
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Big difficulty spike on the final Ultros fight huh?
Is the best place to grind in the WoB the desert with the zombie dragons?
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The desert near Albrook is one of the prime grinding spots in the WoB, yes.
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Ho boy dat Atma Weapon fight.
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Yep, that's pretty much the big fight of the mod.
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so if you try to steal from a monster you just die? that's supposed to be an improvement?
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There are roughly 300 monsters in the game, about 64 of which are humanoid. I opted to only give the humans things to steal so it would be far less balance work. Plus with a skill like steal, players get really burnt out stealing from *every* new enemy they run across - having a clear indication of "this enemy has something to steal" such as "two legs" means that they're much more likely to try. But that means I have to get that message across, and I choose negative reinforcement over positive reinforcement because it just sticks in the player's mind more. The only two cases of negative reinforcement that will flat-out kill you are both located right at or right next to save points, so virtually no time is lost, and a lesson is (hopefully) learned.
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Sahuagin posted...

so if you try to steal from a monster you just die? that's supposed to be an improvement?

Only at the very beginning of the game. You don't just die instantly, they just use high level attacks that do a lot of damage.
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Does any enemy have an exclusive item if you steal from them? Pretty much I've just seen healing items so far. And that one guy in Zozo who has daggers on him.
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Yeah, I caved and added theft-exclusive equipment as rare steals. It's all weird, gimmicky shit, though.
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I love me some weird gimmicky shit.
Got a list? >_>
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All enemy sprite groups share steals, and there's not that many humanoids in the WoR - they all have something pretty interesting.
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BTB posted...

There are roughly 300 monsters in the game, about 64 of which are humanoid. I opted to only give the humans things to steal so it would be far less balance work. Plus with a skill like steal, players get really burnt out stealing from *every* new enemy they run across - having a clear indication of "this enemy has something to steal" such as "two legs" means that they're much more likely to try.

I think I'm with you up to there.

I suppose it's a side-effect of not being able to change things except at a certain points, so it's not like you can filter the enemy selection or something.

I think I would have just put a really obvious message somewhere "don't waste your time stealing from monsters", and then make it miss 100% of the time on them. even without the message, it would start to be pretty obvious after a while.
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BTB posted...

All enemy sprite groups share steals, and there's not that many humanoids in the WoR - they all have something pretty interesting.

Well damn, I guess I better do the Phoenix Cave then. Or just get Gogo.
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Vanishing opponents in the Colosseum are really fucking annoying. I'm screaming "USE A SPELL DUMBASS!" at the AI.
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Did you change the zone eater? How do you get in his belly?
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Zareth posted...

Vanishing opponents in the Colosseum are really fucking annoying. I'm screaming "USE A SPELL DUMBASS!" at the AI.

This is being addressed in the next update. We really want for it to fucntion mroe as a trading post than an RNG-fest, so the only two opponents of any real difficulty (Siegfried and WEAPON) are getting beaten with a nerf stick.

Zareth posted...

Did you change the zone eater? How do you get in his belly?

You have to fight him.
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