Current Events > Holy shit! They fucked Jet Force Gemini's controls all up on the Rare Replay.

(+) Yeah! (+)

Look at how they massacred my favorite N64 game.
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T-T

But to be fair, playing the original was pretty wonky too.

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legendarylemur posted...

T-T

But to be fair, playing the original was pretty wonky too.

I mean, yeah, it's the N64 but it worked SO much better for that controller. On Xbox the controls are just straight bad. I feel like I can pop in the N64 version and pick up on that pretty quick. In the menu of the RR you can change the controls from Expert (why is it on this by default?) to Normal and it's only a little less worse than the default setting.

It's literally unplayable. Literally. Damn near, anyway.
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Why? Never played it but wanted to pick up RR eventually. Does it not use both sticks or something?

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Smackems posted...

Why? Never played it but wanted to pick up RR eventually. Does it not use both sticks or something?

I'm gonna try to describe this shit to the best of my ability -- You run around with the left analog stick and the right stick strafes you around, depending on where the camera is facing. The problem with that is, you have little control over the camera, so flicking right stick can have you doing crazy ass movements you don't want that sends the camera everywhere. The more narrow the area you're trying to fight the in, the worse it gets. Also, when you aim, right stick moves you and left stick looks around.
And if you're playing with the "Expert" controls, the right stick jumped, crouched, roll, etc. I shit you not.

My roommate and I where playing it last night, and we spent the whole time laughing at the controls and fighting the camera.
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Kitt posted...

I'm gonna try to describe this shit to the best of my ability -- You run around with the left analog stick and the right stick strafes you around, depending on where the camera is facing. The problem with that is, you have little control over the camera, so flicking right stick can have you doing crazy ass movements you don't want that sends the camera everywhere. The more narrow the area you're trying to fight the in, the worse it gets. Also, when you aim, right stick moves you and left stick looks around.
And if you're playing with the "Expert" controls, the right stick jumped, crouched, roll, etc. I shit you not.

My roommate and I where playing it last night, and we spent the whole time laughing at the controls and fighting the camera.

That sounds.. Gross. There's no workaround with accessibility options or anything?

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That sounds like pure hell. The original wasn't perfect, but at least it WORKED.

Expert was the better way to play on the N64, it gave you full range of motion while aiming. And thinking about the controls on the N64, there's no way to really map that to a dual-stick controller that isn't awkward as hell.
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JFG has such bad controls on the n64 that even I as a kid who would happily play absolute garbage realized it. Like I really liked the games atmosphere and ost but the manual aiming is maybe the worst I can think of in almost any game of the time period

they did what they could with it but theres only honestly so much you can, and you can tell even they realized they had to come at it from the ground up

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Smackems posted...

That sounds.. Gross. There's no workaround with accessibility options or anything?

Apparently, this was such an issue on realese (of the Rare Replay) that they actually put out a patch to improve the controls called "Modern Controls" that you can't access through the game's menu proper, but rather, through the Rare Replay menu that you access by holding pause.
I didn't know this, so I'll be sure to test this out when I get home. Like, damn, I really want to enjoy this game again.

I forgot to mention that you cycle through weapons by flicking right stick. Yeah, the same thing that you use to strafe around like an idiot. All these useless face buttons and they went with that...
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Kitt posted...

Smackems posted...

That sounds.. Gross. There's no workaround with accessibility options or anything?

Apparently, this was such an issue on realese (of the Rare Replay) that they actually put out a patch to improve the controls called "Modern Controls" that you can't access through the game's menu proper, but rather, through the Rare Replay menu that you access by holding pause.
I didn't know this, so I'll be sure to test this out when I get home. Like, damn, I really want to enjoy this game again.

I forgot to mention that you cycle through weapons by flicking right stick. Yeah, the same thing that you use to strafe around like an idiot. All these useless face buttons and they went with that...

Think about it. The right stick is mapped to the C-buttons. What are you going to map A and B to if you map the C-buttons to the face buttons?
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