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YellowSUV 05/03/24 9:10:26 AM #1:	Big Iron overtook Butcher Pete as the meme song of the series. Big Iron - 68 million views https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzICMIu5zFY Butcher Pete - 3.6 million views https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcA24RTmnF8 --- We all live in a Yellow SUV! a Yellow SUV! <cite>YellowSUV posted [p:980217719] in I think I ... [t:80761289]...</cite> <quote>Big Iron overtook Butcher Pete as the meme song of the series.Big Iron - 68 million viewshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzICMIu5zFYButcher Pete - 3.6 million viewshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcA24RTmnF8 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shotgunnova 05/03/24 9:11:39 AM #2:	Big Iron is renowned. Butcher Pete is nowned. --- Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame <cite>Shotgunnova posted [p:980217730] in I think I ... [t:80761289]...</cite> <quote>Big Iron is renowned.Butcher Pete is nowned. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yazarogi 05/03/24 9:12:46 AM #3:	Todd Howard doesnt hate New Vegas. --- "There will be nothing to show that we were ever here... but stardust." - Pinbacker <cite>Yazarogi posted [p:980217742] in I think I ... [t:80761289]...</cite> <quote>Todd Howard doesnt hate New Vegas. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andri_g 05/03/24 2:09:03 PM #4:	Those songs have different audiences that watch them to increase the number of "listen" views. The real measure of "impact" (interest and popularity) is the teaser trailers. . Fallout 3 "World on Fire" teaser trailer - 4.5 million views https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPt08UYmyMo . Fallout New Vegas "Blue Moon" teaser trailer - 1.8 million views https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7xME0aFbC4 --- '~' <cite>andri_g posted [p:980221772] in I think I ... [t:80761289]...</cite> <quote>Those songs have different audiences that watch them to increase the number of "listen" views. The real measure of "impact" (interest and popularity) is the teaser trailers..Fallout 3 "World on Fire" teaser trailer - 4.5 million viewshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPt08UYmyMo.Fallout New Vegas "Blue Moon" teaser trailer - 1.8 million viewshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7xME0aFbC4 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YellowSUV 05/04/24 1:10:21 PM #5:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRYzlIuPGGA --- We all live in a Yellow SUV! a Yellow SUV! <cite>YellowSUV posted [p:980235707] in I think I ... [t:80761289]...</cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRYzlIuPGGA </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClayGuida 05/04/24 1:14:38 PM #6:	Nothing will top Butcher Pete. In fact that's the only thing about the show I had legit gripes with. For one, a common theme through the games is the limited music, so you're destined to listen to the same song over and over, because only so many albums survived the blast and centuries after, so not having Butcher Pete, even if you want to save it for later is silly, because again, part of playing the games is listening to the same shit over and over and over until Johnny Guitar makes you want to throw your console out the window https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2VTulxEDig&ab_channel=MaddinDS --- lolAmerica <cite>ClayGuida posted [p:980235784] in I think I ... [t:80761289]...</cite> <quote>Nothing will top Butcher Pete. In fact that's the only thing about the show I had legit gripes with. For one, a common theme through the games is the limited music, so you're destined to listen to the same song over and over, because only so many albums survived the blast and centuries after, so not having Butcher Pete, even if you want to save it for later is silly, because again, part of playing the games is listening to the same shit over and over and over until Johnny Guitar makes you want to throw your console out the windowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2VTulxEDig&ab_channel=MaddinDS </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 05/04/24 1:14:59 PM #7:	Maybe, but while Big Iron is the superior song, Butcher Pete is still freakin awesome. ClayGuida posted... Nothing will top Butcher Pete. In fact that's the only thing about the show I had legit gripes with. For one, a common theme through the games is the limited music, so you're destined to listen to the same song over and over, because only so many albums survived the blast and centuries after, so not having Butcher Pete, even if you want to save it for later is silly, because again, part of playing the games is listening to the same shit over and over and over until Johnny Guitar makes you want to throw your console out the window https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2VTulxEDig&ab_channel=MaddinDS Haven't seen the show yet, but really? No Butcher Pete? The hell? --- Fix your hearts or die. When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:980235787] in I think I ... [t:80761289]...</cite> <quote>Maybe, but while Big Iron is the superior song, Butcher Pete is still freakin awesome.ClayGuida posted... </cite><quote>Nothing will top Butcher Pete. In fact that's the only thing about the show I had legit gripes with.For one, a common theme through the games is the limited music, so you're destined to listen to the same song over and over, because only so many albums survived the blast and centuries after, so not having Butcher Pete, even if you want to save it for later is silly, because again, part of playing the games is listening to the same shit over and over and over until Johnny Guitar makes you want to throw your console out the windowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2VTulxEDig&ab_channel=MaddinDS</quote>Haven't seen the show yet, but really? No Butcher Pete? The hell? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alucard188 05/04/24 1:16:30 PM #8:	https://youtu.be/Jdhwq_cfovI?si=Gk8JZBglgWclYXAa --- Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx <cite>Alucard188 posted [p:980235815] in I think I ... [t:80761289]...</cite> <quote>https://youtu.be/Jdhwq_cfovI?si=Gk8JZBglgWclYXAa </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 05/04/24 1:16:39 PM #9:	Yazarogi posted... Todd Howard doesnt hate New Vegas. Every time people say he does it makes me think they're terminally online lol --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:980235818] in I think I ... [t:80761289]...</cite> <quote>Yazarogi posted... </cite><quote>Todd Howard doesnt hate New Vegas.</quote>Every time people say he does it makes me think they're terminally online lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 05/04/24 1:25:11 PM #10:	Yazarogi posted... Todd Howard doesnt hate New Vegas. Then why did he reject every single proposal that Obsidian pitched to them after NV? https://fandomwire.com/obsidian-fallout-elder-scrolls-bethesda/ An X/Twitter thread from early 2022 surfaced on the internet on December 14 that shows the conversation between game designer Chris Avellone, who worked on Fo2 and NV, and an X/Twitter user. The thread was shared by X user Nuclea and shows the user asking Avellone why there isnt a NV2 Avellone had replied that this question kept him awake at night for years and that he had no idea why they were rejected. He added that the company asked repeatedly to make FNV2 and even ES spinoffs just like FNV, but Bethesda said Nope. When the user asked if he was legally allowed to answer this question, he said, I dont even have an answer is the point. Avellone said that despite multiple efforts, it did not get a nod for the spinoffs. He further mentioned that these spinoffs are less relevant now since ES Online is going on, but at the time, these pitches were something that could have been beneficial for both studios. He also said that he did not get much traction with his pitch, which did not surprise him, but he believes that Bethesda was never happy with FNVs reception, good and bad. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:980235952] in I think I ... [t:80761289]...</cite> <quote>Yazarogi posted... </cite><quote>Todd Howard doesnt hate New Vegas.</quote>Then why did he reject every single proposal that Obsidian pitched to them after NV?https://fandomwire.com/obsidian-fallout-elder-scrolls-bethesda/<quote>An X/Twitter thread from early 2022 surfaced on the internet on December 14 that shows the conversation between game designer Chris Avellone, who worked on Fo2 and NV, and an X/Twitter user. The thread was shared by X user Nuclea and shows the user asking Avellone why there isnt a NV2Avellone had replied that this question kept him awake at night for years and that he had no idea why they were rejected. He added that the company asked repeatedly to make FNV2 and even ES spinoffs just like FNV, but Bethesda said Nope. When the user asked if he was legally allowed to answer this question, he said, I dont even have an answer is the point.</quote><quote>Avellone said that despite multiple efforts, it did not get a nod for the spinoffs. He further mentioned that these spinoffs are less relevant now since ES Online is going on, but at the time, these pitches were something that could have been beneficial for both studios. He also said that he did not get much traction with his pitch, which did not surprise him, but he believes that Bethesda was never happy with FNVs reception, good and bad.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArkhamOrigins 05/04/24 1:39:43 PM #11:	Yazarogi posted... Todd Howard doesnt hate New Vegas. .........he literally does --- The <cite>ArkhamOrigins posted [p:980236207] in I think I ... [t:80761289]...</cite> <quote>Yazarogi posted... </cite><quote>Todd Howard doesnt hate New Vegas.</quote>.........he literally does </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE_FOSTER 05/04/24 1:40:53 PM #12:	NO he doesn't <cite>CADE_FOSTER posted [p:980236232] in I think I ... [t:80761289]...</cite> <quote>NO he doesn't </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Null_Gain 05/04/24 1:44:41 PM #13:	s0nicfan posted... Then why did he reject every single proposal that Obsidian pitched to them after NV? https://fandomwire.com/obsidian-fallout-elder-scrolls-bethesda/ Careful now. Criticizing Todd Howard or Bethesda will automatically get you labeled as a "New Vegas fanboy" (nevermind the fact their questionable decisions affect other franchises such as Elder Scrolls as well) --- Series S + Switch "Don't steal, stop being ignorant and respect other peoples beliefs." -perthboy on flying a Nazi flag <cite>Null_Gain posted [p:980236293] in I think I ... [t:80761289]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted... </cite><quote>Then why did he reject every single proposal that Obsidian pitched to them after NV?https://fandomwire.com/obsidian-fallout-elder-scrolls-bethesda/</quote>Careful now. Criticizing Todd Howard or Bethesda will automatically get you labeled as a "New Vegas fanboy" (nevermind the fact their questionable decisions affect other franchises such as Elder Scrolls as well) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 05/04/24 1:49:04 PM #14:	s0nicfan posted... Then why did he reject every single proposal that Obsidian pitched to them after NV? https://fandomwire.com/obsidian-fallout-elder-scrolls-bethesda/ Likely because they were working on their own entries in the franchise and didn't want another studio touching it while they were working on it themselves? Also I'm not sure how the corporate breakdown structure of Bethesda and its owner Zenimax works but I can guarantee there's more to the game dev and licensing process than "does todd howard like thing" lol --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:980236377] in I think I ... [t:80761289]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted... </cite><quote>Then why did he reject every single proposal that Obsidian pitched to them after NV?https://fandomwire.com/obsidian-fallout-elder-scrolls-bethesda/</quote>Likely because they were working on their own entries in the franchise and didn't want another studio touching it while they were working on it themselves? Also I'm not sure how the corporate breakdown structure of Bethesda and its owner Zenimax works but I can guarantee there's more to the game dev and licensing process than "does todd howard like thing" lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 05/04/24 1:50:53 PM #15:	I don't think Todd hates New Vegas, he just has a very specific way he makes games and doesn't entertain other ideas. His games sell well despite the quality so I guess he doesn't care --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:980236416] in I think I ... [t:80761289]...</cite> <quote>I don't think Todd hates New Vegas, he just has a very specific way he makes games and doesn't entertain other ideas. His games sell well despite the quality so I guess he doesn't care </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClayGuida 05/04/24 1:53:49 PM #16:	s0nicfan posted... Then why did he reject every single proposal that Obsidian pitched to them after NV? https://fandomwire.com/obsidian-fallout-elder-scrolls-bethesda/ May have had a lot to do with the fact that their games are buggy as fuck. --- lolAmerica <cite>ClayGuida posted [p:980236470] in I think I ... [t:80761289]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted... </cite><quote>Then why did he reject every single proposal that Obsidian pitched to them after NV?https://fandomwire.com/obsidian-fallout-elder-scrolls-bethesda/</quote>May have had a lot to do with the fact that their games are buggy as fuck. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 05/04/24 1:54:50 PM #17:	ClayGuida posted... May have had a lot to do with the fact that their games are buggy as fuck. which in turn may have a lot to do with the fact that almost all of their games have been rushed as shit by the publishers --- Asus ROG Strix Z790-E \| Core i9-13900k \| 64GB DDR5-6000 \| RTX 4090 24GB Dell AW3423DW QD-OLED - 1440p Ultrawide, 175hz, GSync <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:980236493] in I think I ... [t:80761289]...</cite> <quote>ClayGuida posted... </cite><quote>May have had a lot to do with the fact that their games are buggy as fuck.</quote>which in turn may have a lot to do with the fact that almost all of their games have been rushed as shit by the publishers </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dancing_cactuar 05/04/24 1:55:53 PM #18:	Doom_Art posted... Likely because they were working on their own entries in the franchise and didn't want another studio touching it while they were working on it themselves? Ah yes, their own entries in The Elder Scrolls franchise, really enjoying playing Elder Scrolls VI right now. Not like Avellone had a point where there could be a game of theirs in between Skyrim and VI. ClayGuida posted... May have had a lot to do with the fact that their games are buggy as fuck. That tends to happen when you're asked to create an open world game in about a year or so. --- PS5s have liquid metal tech like the T-1000- AceCombatX Game devs don't deserve money- Zithers, in a topic he made on a game site about artists deserving money. <cite>dancing_cactuar posted [p:980236508] in I think I ... [t:80761289]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite><quote>Likely because they were working on their own entries in the franchise and didn't want another studio touching it while they were working on it themselves?</quote>Ah yes, their own entries in The Elder Scrolls franchise, really enjoying playing Elder Scrolls VI right now. Not like Avellone had a point where there could be a game of theirs in between Skyrim and VI.ClayGuida posted... </cite><quote>May have had a lot to do with the fact that their games are buggy as fuck.</quote>That tends to happen when you're asked to create an open world game in about a year or so. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClayGuida 05/04/24 1:56:52 PM #19:	Every studio is under crunches, yet Oblivion is notorious for having the most buggy and glitched games. --- lolAmerica <cite>ClayGuida posted [p:980236526] in I think I ... [t:80761289]...</cite> <quote>Every studio is under crunches, yet Oblivion is notorious for having the most buggy and glitched games. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dungeater 05/04/24 1:57:49 PM #20:	the reason he hates new vegas isnt personal. its just not the vision he has for fallout --- My fate was the grandest, most brilliant of them all. He/Him <cite>Dungeater posted [p:980236538] in I think I ... [t:80761289]...</cite> <quote>the reason he hates new vegas isnt personal. its just not the vision he has for fallout </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yazarogi 05/04/24 4:19:23 PM #21:	as a huge New Vegas fan, Todd Howard doesnt hate New Vegas. --- "There will be nothing to show that we were ever here... but stardust." - Pinbacker <cite>Yazarogi posted [p:980239125] in I think I ... [t:80761289]...</cite> <quote>as a huge New Vegas fan, Todd Howard doesnt hate New Vegas. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bobbyrk 05/04/24 4:35:38 PM #22:	ClayGuida posted... May have had a lot to do with the fact that their games are buggy as fuck. Alpha Protocol had multiple months of delays, almost a year's worth, and still came out buggy as fuck. --- Behold the angry wizard putt-putt-putting away. <cite>bobbyrk posted [p:980239358] in I think I ... [t:80761289]...</cite> <quote>ClayGuida posted... </cite><quote>May have had a lot to do with the fact that their games are buggy as fuck.</quote>Alpha Protocol had multiple months of delays, almost a year's worth, and still came out buggy as fuck. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
buddhamonster 05/04/24 4:41:29 PM #23:	ClayGuida posted... May have had a lot to do with the fact that their games are buggy as fuck. DarthAragorn posted... which in turn may have a lot to do with the fact that almost all of their games have been rushed as shit by the publishers No and no. Bethesda games are all buggy as fuck because theyre using shitty outdated engines and dont do enough QA. New Vegas is always shit on for being the buggiest, but its only slightly below par for the course of a normal Bethsda game. Like, you cant blame a rushed launch on Fallout 4, to this day, STILL having main story missions that bug out and can soft lock your game. Theyre just not good at QA, period. --- Hey Trashcan Man! What did old lady Semple say when you burned her pension check? Boston Bruins - 2011 Stanley Cup Champs! <cite>buddhamonster posted [p:980239448] in I think I ... [t:80761289]...</cite> <quote>ClayGuida posted... </cite><quote>May have had a lot to do with the fact that their games are buggy as fuck.</quote>DarthAragorn posted... </cite><quote>which in turn may have a lot to do with the fact that almost all of their games have been rushed as shit by the publishers</quote>No and no. Bethesda games are all buggy as fuck because theyre using shitty outdated engines and dont do enough QA. New Vegas is always shit on for being the buggiest, but its only slightly below par for the course of a normal Bethsda game. Like, you cant blame a rushed launch on Fallout 4, to this day, STILL having main story missions that bug out and can soft lock your game. Theyre just not good at QA, period. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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