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Larry Hogan.

Larry Hogan.

What? Civil rights, immigration, LGBT rights etc have always been partisan/highly polarized issues. They've always been disputed. The Democrats have zero interest in destroying the two party system. They actively believe current Republicans should exist and prop them up in order to win elections more easily and to not have to do anything when they win. Voting for Democrats is not going to get us to some post political post partisan utopia. Because Democratic politicians and donors are not actually interested in doing that and are opposed to any of the things that would get us there.

Republicans are interested in killing unions, schools, journalism, democratic elections, rational courts anything that leads to liberalism. Democrats are actively opposed to doing the same, they think it's wrong to do so.

Yes, voting for Democrats is better than voting for Republicans, but the party you're imagining is not the one that actually exists.

Larry Hogan.

Larry Hogan.

Larry Hogan.

the only change that would suffice to bring this country back on track is if the whole entire GOP crashed and burned and was no longer a political party anymore, and if far-right ideology would lose any and all official political representation. the Democrat party as it exists today would be considered the center-right party like it actually is, and a new Progressive party would take up the mantle of leftist ideological representation.

but since none of that has any realistic chance of happening anytime soon, we have to work with what we got.

Not always true but you have to consider who is the opponent and what they will do.

For the rest of our lives, sadly.

Not really. The problem is the majority of voters only care when it comes to the Presidential race. In order to get better candidates, we need to focus on local elections, state elections and then the primaries in that order. As soon as the 2024 election is over, we need to start pushing/looking for the person we want running in 2028 and setting up a Congress that will assist them.

Pretty much this. The whole At least its not Trump argument is such a defeatist attitude.

Blue MAGA.

Larry Hogan.

What? Civil rights, immigration, LGBT rights etc have always been partisan/highly polarized issues. They've always been disputed.

The Democrats have zero interest in destroying the two party system. They actively believe current Republicans should exist and prop them up in order to win elections more easily and to not have to do anything when they win.

Voting for Democrats is not going to get us to some post political post partisan utopia. Because Democratic politicians and donors are not actually interested in doing that and are opposed to any of the things that would get us there.

Republicans are interested in killing unions, schools, journalism, democratic elections, rational courts anything that leads to liberalism. Democrats are actively opposed to doing the same, they think it's wrong to do so.

Yes, voting for Democrats is better than voting for Republicans, but the party you're imagining is not the one that actually exists.

He's promised mass deportationsof millions of migrants and suggested the United States would not defend foreign allies from aggression in certain circumstances. He's vowed to eviscerate the federal bureaucracyand staff those career civil service roles with political loyalists, use law enforcement to target foes and painted a dire picture of America's future if he does not return to the White House.

In two wide-ranging interviews with TIME Magazine published Tuesday, Trump expanded upon that vision for a second term, which would buck traditional conservative viewpoints about the role of government and expand the powers of the presidency that he would then wield against a wide range of groups in America.

Trump touched on a number of topics that are important factors to voters ahead of November, like abortion, crime and the U.S.-Mexico border. Trump also made eyebrow-raising comments about political violence, using the military against civilians and about the multiple criminal cases against him.

Abortion
"I won't have to commit to [federal abortion restrictions] because it'll never number one, it'll never happen," Trump said in the interview transcript. "Number two, it's about states' rights. You don't want to go back into the federal government."

Immigration
In campaign stump speeches, Trump has vowed to enact "the largest domestic deportation operation" in history and roll back virtually every Biden administration policy around the border. He continues to equate immigrants with crime, often mentioning murders and other grisly crimes committed by non-citizens as evidence that a crackdown is needed under his watch.

Political violence, law enforcement and criminal indictments
At several times over the last few years, Trump has suggested he would go after political opponents and seek to prosecute them, ranging from Biden to local district attorneys that do not align with his views on crime.

they are correct at this moment.

I've been voting pretty much straight blue since I've been of voting age but how long is this going to be sustainable? It's not like the GOP and the Project 2025 ghouls are just going to go away if Trump loses

Joe Biden is not "Democrats." There is overwhelming support for electoral reform among the democratic party including abolishing the electoral college.

Until the GOP is taken down utterly.

Couldn't tell you if/when that's happening though unfortunately.

If Trump loses aren't they basically bankrupt?

I make one exception people sometimes blast me for but I think my reasoning is sound. My Governor despite being a Republican takes all the left leaning positions I care about. Committed to protecting abortion rights and lgbt rights. Supports reasonable gun restrictions. And I approve of how he handled guiding the state through the Pandemic. But if that is not enough reason theres also the possibility if he werent governor hed consider running for the Senate and hes popular enough to have a shot. And I think its better to have him here where his left leaning stances do some good for the state than mucking up the numbers in congress.

Vermont?

not a thing

Totally a thing. Blue MAGA is real

Totally a thing. Blue MAGA is real

Totally a thing. Blue MAGA is real

Wtf is Blue MAGA

Wtf is Blue MAGA

People who have the same kind of blind devotion as regular MAGA, but to the left rather than the right.

People who have the same kind of blind devotion as regular MAGA, but to the left rather than the right. (Not just someone who votes blue.)

Is that a thing? It doesn't feel like a thing.

Is that a thing? It doesn't feel like a thing.

People who have the same kind of blind devotion as regular MAGA, but to the left rather than the right. (Not just someone who votes blue.)

People who can think for themselves don't vote based on color or a letter next to someone's name.

People who have the same kind of blind devotion as regular MAGA, but to the left rather than the right. (Not just someone who votes blue.)

There's no such thing as a good republican. I'd vote Bob Menendez over every single republican because while Bob is corrupt as fuck, he's not trying to murder women through policy.

McCain seemed like a decent person. He argued in favor of Obama whenever one of his supporters went off on their bullshit.

McCain seemed like a decent person. He argued in favor of Obama whenever one of his supporters went off on their bullshit.

On July 18, 2015, then-candidate Donald Trump said this about John McCain: Hes not a war hero. He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who werent captured.
On March 19, 2019, President Donald Trump offered this assessment of the late war hero and senator: I was never a fan of John McCain and I never will be.

Those two comments almost four years apart and more than six months after McCains death provide telling bookends to understand just how much Trump has changed Republican politics (and politics generally), and not for the better.