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wallmasterz
04/30/24 6:17:30 PM
#201:


TotallyNotMI posted...
That's a stretch. Reactions to this could easily be faked.

No. If people say oh my god what happened to Lopen they are 100% town confirmed

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PunishedBen
04/30/24 6:18:07 PM
#202:


oh my god what happened to lopen. I just noticed he was gone

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ctesjbuvf
04/30/24 6:18:16 PM
#203:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Whats not to get, if he is scum and has made it clear that he won't get discord, unless Lea opted to make a forum he wouldn't be able to get help from his team.

Which makes him more likely to be town?

What's not to get is thinking it is possible scum team can't communicate in the event that one of them happened to just a specific player.

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ctesjbuvf
04/30/24 6:19:38 PM
#204:


PeaceFrog posted...
If anything it clears Ulti more than anyone else

No it doesn't.

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PeaceFrog
04/30/24 6:20:44 PM
#205:


The fact that no one else is asking about votals is weird as hell to me. How are you going to make your judgments without having host confirmation on the status of his vote? Surely that would be a pretty big indication on if he's actually dead or just temporarily forbidden from posting.

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ctesjbuvf
04/30/24 6:20:52 PM
#206:


Hey Wallz, what do you think of the timing of Corrik showing up?

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PunishedBen
04/30/24 6:20:59 PM
#207:


Kirby321 posted...
How can you say that so confidently? "Vanished" is quite an ominous thing to describe a player. Janitor daykill is the most natural assumption to make here.

I'd be happy to be wrong, though.
Would you?

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PeaceFrog
04/30/24 6:21:02 PM
#208:


ctesjbuvf posted...
No it doesn't.
Yeah it does. :p

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ctesjbuvf
04/30/24 6:21:54 PM
#209:


PeaceFrog posted...
The fact that no one else is asking about votals is weird as hell to me. How are you going to make your judgments without having host confirmation on the status of his vote? Surely that would be a pretty big indication on if he's actually dead or just temporarily forbidden from posting.

It was a good idea. I really doubt they come faster if I also ask for them given you already tagged Lea.

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Kirby321
04/30/24 6:22:18 PM
#210:


PunishedBen posted...
Would you?

A dead town is a dead town, even if it's Lopen. Assuming he's dead, at least.

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ctesjbuvf
04/30/24 6:22:23 PM
#211:


PeaceFrog posted...
Yeah it does. :p

Okay tell me why

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IfGodCouldDie
04/30/24 6:22:38 PM
#212:


ctesjbuvf posted...
Which makes him more likely to be town?

What's not to get is thinking it is possible scum team can't communicate in the event that one of them happened to just a specific player.
Yes because if he isn't communicating with his team I assume he would likely be replaced because you can't have a member of scum not being informed, I got shit on real fucking bad for that once claiming I haven't even read my role pm early in my career.

And at no point did I mention the rest of the scum team being unable to speak to each other, I would assume they are just on discord like normal.

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ctesjbuvf
04/30/24 6:25:27 PM
#213:


Okay, but way more likely they would figure something out than replace him. Can't have a player here that can't roll scum, they 100% just work around it, most likely by him making a discord.

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PunishedBen
04/30/24 6:25:30 PM
#214:


Kirby321 posted...
A dead town is a dead town, even if it's Lopen. Assuming he's dead, at least.
Fair

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ctesjbuvf
04/30/24 6:26:18 PM
#215:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
And at no point did I mention the rest of the scum team being unable to speak to each other, I would assume they are just on discord like normal.

And I did not mean to imply you said the rest couldn't. But one of them would be breaking enough.

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IfGodCouldDie
04/30/24 6:28:59 PM
#216:


ctesjbuvf posted...
Okay, but way more likely they would figure something out than replace him. Can't have a player here that can't roll scum, they 100% just work around it, most likely by him making a discord.
Yea which is why I mentioned the possibility of Lea creating something on a free forums if he is scum, just not sure how likely it is or what Lea is willing to do. Obviously we'll all find out at the end of the game when chat logs are released.

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Leafeon13N
04/30/24 6:40:28 PM
#217:


Hsving discord is definitely something we should require if that is the means a host is intending to use for communication.

But I would assume we didn't townlock a player and that contingencies were in place.
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Forceful_Dragon
04/30/24 6:45:13 PM
#218:


Kirby321 posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/b3ed7ece.jpg

honestly amazing. I would make it my sig if it didn't also fill my eyes with tears for how true it is.

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ctesjbuvf posted...
Also most people did not give him s***, they just disagreed. Now let us end that pointless discussion.

Maybe i'm biased, but that has not been my experience. I certainly wasn't the one who brought it up this game so it would follow me here as well.

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IfGodCouldDie posted...
Also all conversations I've had with knightz about mafia were before roles were even sent out, so none of what him and I have talked about could be influenced by this game, just so we are clear.

The whole thing feels icky, but that's been the case with both of the new users. It was icky enough that knightz was essentially meta-full-cleared last game. Personally I just wish I could bring myself past feeling incredible doubt at their very existence.

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PunishedBen posted...
Hard agree, Avril Lavigne

The logic does not 100% clear Knightz, but I think IGCD was trying to 100% prove Knightz is town with information he thought would seal the deal, with information only IGCD has, that I dont think scum provides the game with.

I agree with this and would add that at the very least I can't see them both being scum unless Knightz was some incredibly overpowered role that would be worth IGCD sticking his entire neck out with this discord meta for.

My only addition to the discord discussion is that during the Toy Story post game Knightz mentioned that he uses a kindle to browse gamefaqs, so not having access to discord may be an entirely technical limitation based upon how he accesses the site. Basically, we should view it as NAI I think.

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wallmasterz
04/30/24 6:46:00 PM
#219:


PunishedBen posted...
oh my god what happened to lopen. I just noticed he was gone

Ben is town confirmed.

ctesjbuvf posted...
Hey Wallz, what do you think of the timing of Corrik showing up?

Its equally worth noting as what I called out concerning you. I dont think either of you are scum because of it, but I noticed it.

As for Lopen vanishing, I dont think it means anything for Corriks alignment. As MI said, if Corrik knew Lopen was about to vanish, it doesnt make sense to be around at that time. But Corrik immediately calling himself town wipes away any goodwill from that timing imo. Its NAI for me.

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PunishedBen
04/30/24 6:55:19 PM
#222:


I thought the last thing he did was vote for me. That's why I had to kill him

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Forceful_Dragon
04/30/24 6:58:07 PM
#223:


Corrik7 posted...
They got Lopen right at the 24 hour mark with their extra kill janitor. Heh

So I was looking at this and it was 24 hours... to almost the second from when Blade posted yesterday:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/2a2c411e.png

Which strikes me as... odd. It wasn't exactly 24 hours from the day going live (2:55:09), but 24 hours from Blade's post (2:57:40)

If we assume Lopen was either kidnapped or janitored then it would stand to reason that Lopen was town and whoever targeted him was not. So i have a hard time believing there would be a public-posting component to an action like that, it seems like it would be such an absurd handicap. You would have no choice but to play it off like a joke when you make the post originally and then feign innocence the following day.

So would scum Blade even use such a brazen double edged action to begin with and would he (let's be honest) waste it on Lopen, of all possible targets?

My takeaway therefore is that the action (either kidnap or janitor) DID have a 24 hour restriction from the actual beginning of day, but someone was trying to be clever and timed their usage just a couple minutes later to frame Blade.

Either that or this is the most open wolf role imaginable and I'm completely falling for it -_-

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ctesjbuvf
04/30/24 6:59:23 PM
#224:


ctesjbuvf posted...
Wait what changed your certainty on taco with respect to the third party mentions?

Ulti ?

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Forceful_Dragon
04/30/24 7:02:28 PM
#227:


changmas posted...
It looks like hes day commuting or something

omg that would actually be incredible, if Lopen just "transferred to city college" for a semester and them comes back tomorrow.

Then again City College could absolutely be a scum faction flavor, so maybe not.

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Forceful_Dragon
04/30/24 7:05:27 PM
#228:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Because if Taco was actually reading last game then it might make SOME sense.

But really its role meta. He self resolves.

That doesn't really answer chang's question.

Your reason for Taco being scum was
"there is no way he would know about [3rd party roles]. He must be coached from scummates!"

And your reason for Taco being town is
"There is no way he would know about [Taunter]. He must NOT be getting coached from scummates!"

If you were convinced that Taco's 3rd party musings were definitive evidence of scummate coaching, then in what universe does that same logic not then justify him also knowing what a Taunter is?

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PunishedBen
04/30/24 7:11:52 PM
#232:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
omg that would actually be incredible, if Lopen just "transferred to city college" for a semester and them comes back tomorrow.

Then again City College could absolutely be a scum faction flavor, so maybe not.
9r faked his own death

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Forceful_Dragon
04/30/24 7:12:01 PM
#233:


UltimaterializerX posted...
More importantly, Knight is the more likely scum of the pair.

And I'll certainly go along with that lynch if we don't have anything more promising available, but we still have nearly half the day left. We'll be well into topic 5 before day 1 ends, lol.

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Leafeon13N
04/30/24 7:12:18 PM
#234:


UltimaterializerX posted...


Taco self resolves. He automatically gets lynched tomorrow if he tries claiming anything but I redirected Player Whatever to myself and that player vouches.
This is not as much of a resolution as you are making it out to be.
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Forceful_Dragon
04/30/24 7:13:51 PM
#235:


PunishedBen posted...
9r faked his own death

That's it. Lopen is Star Burns!

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/ef86f5ee.jpg

I mean, Alex.

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PunishedBen
04/30/24 7:17:52 PM
#236:


I would challenge us NOT to lynch any of the new players today unless one is clearly scum. They're the easiest people to read in the game. Especially the longer it goes on. Catch my drift, Taylor Swift?

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Forceful_Dragon
04/30/24 7:22:31 PM
#239:


Ben without giving any context... Is that deliberate?

Just a yes or no will do and we can move on.

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PeaceFrog
04/30/24 7:22:39 PM
#240:


ctesjbuvf posted...
Okay tell me why
Ulti very strongly thinks that lopen being dead is a boon to town. He has said so multiple times, even outside of this game. He would rage against his team both in topic and in their discord if they wanted to kill Lopen at the 24h mark.

The only time Ulti has raged here was TO lopen. No one else. Ulti as scum would have to simultaneously think that lopen being dead would be a net loss for town, and also that no one else in town would be a better target to be rid of.

He's lock town.

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PunishedBen
04/30/24 7:23:17 PM
#241:


If they were clearly scum I would see it too

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ItzKnightz
04/30/24 7:23:35 PM
#242:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
I'm definitely not saying he can't be scum lol, just that if he is, he isn't getting help unless free forums etc.

@ItzKnightz have you made a discord account recently?
no

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PunishedBen
04/30/24 7:24:19 PM
#243:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
Ben without giving any context... Is that deliberate?

Just a yes or no will do and we can move on.
Ah. No

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Forceful_Dragon
04/30/24 7:24:36 PM
#244:


*nods*

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Forceful_Dragon
04/30/24 7:34:05 PM
#245:


Well I didn't expect that to kill activity

I guess we still need blade to confirm that he didn't brutally murder and/or kidnap Lopen

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Enchantress
04/30/24 7:35:22 PM
#246:


Musical Improv Rehearsal Tonight
Well Im a peanut bar and Im here to say, Your checks will arrive on another day!
Another day, another dime, another rhyme, another dollar
Another stuffed shirt with another white collar
Criminals, Wall Street, taking the pie
And all the black man gets is a plate of white lies
Prisons recruitin' 'em, police be shootin' 'em
Rap artists lootin' 'em, labels all dilutin' 'em
Barack Obama is scared of me!
Because I don't swallow knowledge and I spit it for free
Let me clear my throat, ah ha, ha ha!

I don't know what that was, I don't, I don't know what that was Votals

[2] FD - (Ulti), Red, Chang, (Taco),(Lopen), (Ulti)
[2] Wallz - Ben, (Ulti), Corrik, (Ctes)
[2] Kirby - Peaf, (Ulti), Sbell
[1] Taco - Knightz, (Ulti), (Fd), (Lopen)
[1] Sbell - (Lopen), (Taco), Blade, (Taco), (Red)
[2] Knightz - (Taco), (Taco), (Ulti), (Ulti), Taco, Ulti
[0] Ben - (Lopen)
[0] Ctes- (Ulti), (Wallz)
[0] Blade - (Sbell), (Lopen)
[0] Ulti- (Lopen)
[0] Red - (FD)
[0] Chang - (Peaf), (Ulti)
[0] Isquen - (Kirby)
[0] Lopen - (Kirby)
[0] Death - (Taco), (Ulti)
[0] MI - (IGCD), (Knightz)

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch. Day ends May 1st at 6 PM EST.


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PeaceFrog
04/30/24 7:43:58 PM
#248:


So we have confirmation that lopen's vote is no longer active.

He's dead, Jim. And Blade has been gone for what, nearly 24 hours now?

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red13n
04/30/24 8:00:21 PM
#250:


PeaceFrog posted...


He's dead, Jim. And Blade has been gone for what, nearly 24 hours now?

What exactly makes you so sure hes dead?

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