Current Events > Trump Trials General Part 15: CE's Last Hurrah

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Tyranthraxus posted...

Rachel Maddow probably does both of those things as well. I'm guessing they had some evidence he wasn't a cultist.

The Art of the Deal was written in 1987. I think I may have read it when I needed a book while waiting for a flight.

https://youtu.be/xSvP8IAdvxA?si=cf3LVQZph4WzFCAp

So did they manage to panel and seat the entire jury pool yet?

Alucard188 posted...

https://youtu.be/xSvP8IAdvxA?si=cf3LVQZph4WzFCAp

So did they manage to panel and seat the entire jury pool yet?

Today features the six alternates.

Tuesday the judge hears about all the violations to the gag order.

mystic_belmont posted...

Today features the six alternates.

Tuesday the judge hears about all the violations to the gag order.

I thought they moved that hearing up.

Takuya_Lee posted...

I thought they moved that hearing up.

They did. It was originally Wednesday.

Heineken14 posted...

They did. It was originally Wednesday.

Oh. I thought it was originally on Tuesday and moved up to Monday

darkace77450 posted...

https://buffalonews.com/news/local/crime-courts/lancaster-man-accused-of-making-death-threats-to- ag-judge-in-trump-fraud-case/article_e41c7cd0-edec-11ee-aeb9-ff08a1e8c8aa.html

This is the kind of lunatic a juror is going to be dealing with if the media outs them. Some of these prospective jurors might vote to acquit regardless of the evidence just because they fear for their lives.

Wow lock him up

Cemith posted...

Okay that's what I thought it meant, but I guess I'm not as stringent when I'm reading articles, as it didn't occur to me that it was all that unprofessional.

Thanks.

To add, I was under the impression (sic) is shortened from spelling incorrect

CSCA33 posted...

Wow lock him up

To add, I was under the impression (sic) is shortened from spelling incorrect

I think he was arrested.

Also, sic is from a Latin phrase "sic erat scriptum" pretty much meaning "how it was written"

ArchonKnight posted...

I think he was arrested.

Also, sic is from a Latin phrase "sic erat scriptum" pretty much meaning "how it was written"

Oh nice, thx for that info =)

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ArchonKnight posted...

Also, sic is from a Latin phrase "sic erat scriptum" pretty much meaning "how it was written

Damm, I always wonder where sic came from. CE is always a place to learn something.

https://youtu.be/5xZL_TO1p90?si=lMHaS-C97AxOYPFe

I was watching the news and it was scary how many details about the jury they were sharing.

Humble_Novice posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/92929fb2.jpg

Someone FARTing on the house floor, huh?

Humble_Novice posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/92929fb2.jpg

What does "guard" mean here. It's not like they can physically prevent people from entering the chamber and going to the floor.

Beware the F A R T

unleash the FART

Alucard188 posted...

Someone FARTing on the house floor, huh?

I think that was just MTG complaining about the bills Johnson was getting through with Democrats' help.

Old FARTs

https://twitter.com/KatiePhang/status/1781371278399594720

https://twitter.com/stewartbishop/status/1781374962827227268

https://twitter.com/lawofruby/status/1781375731907404114?s=46

CableZL posted...

https://twitter.com/lawofruby/status/1781375731907404114?s=46

Damn that was quick

Fat fuck ran out of strikes which is why he was crying about being limited to only 10 the other day. He wanted unlimited strikes so he could keep delaying the trial.

ReiRei89 posted...

Fat fuck ran out of strikes which is why he was crying about being limited to only 10 the other day. He wanted unlimited strikes so he could keep delaying the trial.

He should be glad it wasn't held in Arizona.

Zero preemptory challenges.

ReiRei89 posted...

Fat fuck ran out of strikes which is why he was crying about being limited to only 10 the other day. He wanted unlimited strikes so he could keep delaying the trial.

Maybe he shouldn't have told his lawyers to use them based on skin color.

Not something I'm actually saying happened, but given that he called for a judge's recusal based on the judge being Hispanic it would not surprise me if he was telling his lawyers to use them on some absolutely petty shit.

Surprising that a juror who apparently has a JD got through, although I figure the state reasoned that works in its favor and Trump ran out of peremptory challenges.

ReiRei89 posted...

Fat fuck ran out of strikes which is why he was crying about being limited to only 10 the other day. He wanted unlimited strikes so he could keep delaying the trial.

I am beyond shocked that the most spoiled-rotten American citizen currently living was under the false impression that he had unlimited chances to get his way.

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1781373546297749865

Speaking of farts

https://twitter.com/hugolowell/status/1781378389112152381

So I'm watching the ABC News feed. There was a fire at the courthouse in NYC. Apparently a man set himself on fire.

UltimateWing posted...

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1781373546297749865

Speaking of farts

Well now we know what Alina Habba's secret fetish is (think Kim Catrall's character from Porky's, just replace sweaty gym clothes with flatulence).

I can only hope Trump's awful smell is his body slowly rotting away.

UltimateWing posted...

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1781373546297749865

Speaking of farts

Hahahahaha serves them right for taking him as a client.

ThePieReborn posted...

Surprising that a juror who apparently has a JD got through, although I figure the state reasoned that works in its favor and Trump ran out of peremptory challenges.

I was also surprised by this. I dont know what your experience with jury service has been Pie, but my JD/legal career has always disqualified me. When I lived in Va., I was always dismissed before coming in (long time ago, so dont know if that still happens.). Where I live now, I always come in and am instantly dismissed when people realize what I do for a living. Last time it was a law school friend of mine working the case who laughed at me for having to come before kicking me out!

Everywhere I have been no one wants a lawyer on a jury. Or maybe just me? But in this case finding a panel is so hard that I guess beggars cant be choosers?

UltimateWing posted...

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1781373546297749865

Speaking of farts

You know, we joked about chuds having a shit fetish but now it's starting to look like that might actually be the case...

CableZL posted...

https://twitter.com/hugolowell/status/1781378389112152381

Basically Trump is going to feign ignorance in this trial, but he also feigned ignorance in previous business offerings.

NYT being NYT: https://bsky.app/profile/nytimes.com/post/3kqgwoxvpws2s
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BewmHedshot posted...

Hahahahaha serves them right for taking him as a client.

Funniest thing I have ever heard. And we all know those lawyers arent even going to be paid.

Sandalorn posted...

What does "guard" mean here. It's not like they can physically prevent people from entering the chamber and going to the floor.

The House can't technically do any work in the absence of a quorum of the members. Most of the time there's like 5 people in there and they just "presume" a quorum is present, but if something they don't like happens, all a Rep has to do to stop it is get the right to speak and note the lack of a quorum to force a quorum call.

some one lit themselves on fire outside the court house wtf man

Humble_Novice posted...

NYT being NYT: https://bsky.app/profile/nytimes.com/post/3kqgwoxvpws2s
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/77ed27a4.jpg

Can you stop trying to get jurors killed?

Warning: I don't know what the audio is like on this, but you can see the person on fire - from a distance, partially obscured by a bench, but you can make out the body as they're sitting there and shifting positions. From a live CNN report:

https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1781378152754753880

Westernwolf4 posted...

I was also surprised by this. I dont know what your experience with jury service has been Pie, but my JD/legal career has always disqualified me. When I lived in Va., I was always dismissed before coming in (long time ago, so dont know if that still happens.). Where I live now, I always come in and am instantly dismissed when people realize what I do for a living. Last time it was a law school friend of mine working the case who laughed at me for having to come before kicking me out!

Everywhere I have been no one wants a lawyer on a jury. Or maybe just me? But in this case finding a panel is so hard that I guess beggars cant be choosers?

Oh no, I've also been tossed for (presumably) my JD. Funnily enough, at all three stages of my career: law student, judicial clerk, and practicing attorney. All my voir dire questionings have ended at the "and what do you do for a living?" stage. Funny enough, the attorney at my second voir dire was a classmate of my judge, so she asked me to tell my judge she said hi.

Unless if I was really confident in both my case and the JD juror, I sure as hell would never let anyone with a JD on a jury if I still had the peremptory challenges to spare. Too much of a risk for taking control of deliberations. That said, I don't know what the strike count was looking like, but it wouldn't surprise me if this was strategic by the state. New Yorker + JD may be a good combo in this situation.

Mizznox posted...

Warning: I don't know what the audio is like on this, but from about :15 to :30 you can see the person on fire - from a distance, partially obscured by a bench, but you can make out the body as they're sitting there and shifting positions - then they cut away until it's being extinguished. From a live CNN report:

that reporters narration is so absurd wtf

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/04/19/trump-hush-money-trial-live-updates/#link-JSV4OEPZHJAEXO626XMZZI2U24

From the Washington Post, on the man who set himself on fire:

Julie Berman, 56, a Manhattan resident who came to the plaza to photograph protesters, saw the man set himself on fire. He had a sign saying something about Trump and Biden working together to orchestrate a coup, she said, and another one alleging some kind of Ponzi scheme. She said he told her to get back, then doused himself with liquid, threw some fliers in the air, then doused himself again before flicking a lighter and lighting himself on fire.

She said she was about 15 feet away.

I thought it was water at first, she said of the liquid the man doused himself with. It happened so fast and took my mind so long to catch up.

She had approached him to take a photograph, because photographing people around Trump events has become a hobby for her. Before she could ask him to take a close-up, he yelled at her repeatedly: Get away!

He appeared to be under age 40, she said; he reminded her of protesters from my Greenpeace days.

She said she did not wait to watch him burn to death, as others did.

He had a sign saying something about Trump and Biden working together to orchestrate a coup, she said, and another one alleging some kind of Ponzi scheme.

Sounds about right, mentally stable people don't tend to attempt suicide.

Humble_Novice posted...

NYT being NYT: https://bsky.app/profile/nytimes.com/post/3kqgwoxvpws2s
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/77ed27a4.jpg

Do no harm is a tenet of journalism that seems completely forgotten these days. Its infuriating. This kind of article helps no one.

"Truth", "accuracy", and "objectivity" are cornerstones of journalism ethics. Journalists are encouraged to maintain a degree of detachment from the religions, groups, or countries they are associated with, in order to minimize potential biases in their reporting.

Do no harm is doctors

CADE_FOSTER posted...

Do no harm is doctors

And witches.