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can you complete your force training with an individual like the Star Wars version of Master Roshi or does it have to be with someone representing the jedi/sith order

If you don't train specifically to resist the dark side you'll eventually succumb to it.

That said Sith isn't the same thing as Dark Side Force. Sith is its own discrete religion.

There is nothing that stops you from receiving training and then fucking off somewhere. I mean the Sith might hunt your ass down but the Jedi are fine with people leaving so eh?

Tyranthraxus posted...

If you don't train specifically to resist the dark side you'll eventually succumb to it.

That said Sith isn't the same thing as Dark Side Force. Sith is its own discrete religion.

What does succumbing to the dark side mean? Does it mean you'll do bad things or that you have the capacity to do bad things

Damn_Underscore posted...

What does succumbing to the dark side mean? Does it mean you'll do bad things or that you have the capacity to do bad things

It's a corrupting influence that's makes you act out of anger and hatred. Similar in concept to the one ring just different emotions and also fucking everywhere but thankfully most people aren't force sensitive.

Tyranthraxus posted...

If you don't train specifically to resist the dark side you'll eventually succumb to it.

That said Sith isn't the same thing as Dark Side Force. Sith is its own discrete religion.

^This. Most dark side users aren't Sith. Sith are a religion and there are only two Sith lords active at a time post Darth Bane.

Damn_Underscore posted...

What does succumbing to the dark side mean?

Essentially it's a corrupting influence that causes you to do worse and worse things, even if your start isn't particularly heinous

Presumably you could train in the force your whole life and be neither jedi nor sith, because those are titles that are given. You'd still fall somewhere on the light side/dark side spectrum

Tyranthraxus posted...

If you don't train specifically to resist the dark side you'll eventually succumb to it.

This always seems wrong. It's not like every force sensitive person ends up a Jedi and not everyone who doesn't end up a Jedi goes darkside.

LSGW_Zephyra posted...

This always seems wrong. It's not like every force sensitive person ends up a Jedi and not everyone who doesn't end up a Jedi goes darkside.

But that's how it is. It's why the Jedi order is very picky about who they get to train. If they think someone can't be fully committed to the cause they're likely to just be a problem later.

Tyranthraxus posted...

But that's how it is. It's why the Jedi order is very picky about who they get to train. If they think someone can't be fully committed to the cause they're likely to just be a problem later.

But it's not true. Like, you get why that's not true right? It can't be true because all those people they don't pick would go Darkside. They don't stop being force sensitive just because the Jedi don't train them. If the Jedi are thinking that way, they are profoundly stupid. But you know. That's fine. The Jedi can be profoundly stupid

These are specific organizations. It's entirely possible to be force sensitive and even trained and not signed up for either group.

But you'd have to either train yourself or find some teacher who for some reason is a master but is willing to train you without signing you up for anything.

ReiRei89 posted...

and there are only two Sith lords active at a time post Darth Bane.

Hasbt that been debunked even in the post Lucas era? In the Disney era, the comics, novels and games are canon. Disney said so. And I'm pretty sure the Rule of 2 is bullshit now

Zikten posted...

Hasbt that been debunked even in the post Lucas era? In the Disney era, the comics, novels and games are canon. Disney said so. And I'm pretty sure the Rule of 2 is bullshit now

https://youtu.be/b7SjW0vFCiI

murrica posted...

https://youtu.be/b7SjW0vFCiI

And he's wrong

The Rule of 2 was never real

Zikten posted...

Hasbt that been debunked even in the post Lucas era? In the Disney era, the comics, novels and games are canon. Disney said so. And I'm pretty sure the Rule of 2 is bullshit now

They get away with it by stretching or shrinking the definition of what Lord means and playing the No True Scottsman game with them

They like to say this person is neither sith nor jedi to raise interest but in practice theyve struggled to show any meaningful differences.

The exception being the witches in Ashoka which seem to have a very different skill set.

The Rule of 2 was always stupid to me. One of the good changes they made by just saying it was bullshit all along.

That being said I have never liked how black and white the Force is either.

Yeah, the force seems like a disease. I'm with Kreia on this one.

bfslick50 posted...

They like to say this person is neither sith nor jedi to raise interest but in practice theyve struggled to show any meaningful differences.

The exception being the witches in Ashoka which seem to have a very different skill set.

We don't really know. Like Titus Paulo(sp?) in Ahsoka. Like we get some idea of what a potential non-dark side Jedi get up to but not a lot.

We need more Gray jedi! Jolee was great!

The rule of two makes no sense. In a galaxy full of billions, you expect us to honestly believe there's only two people for the cause of the sith?

buddah86 posted...

We need more Gray jedi! Jolee was great!

Eh

Jolee said he was gray. The game's UI said he was gray. But he was constantly going "DON'T DO THAT! THAT'S A DARK SIDE THING!!! Uh... not that I care..."

So Sith are only a is single religion but Jedi are the entire "light side" ?

And how do you become force sensitive

Damn_Underscore posted...

And how do you become force sensitive

It happens at birth. You either have it or don't. You can't become it

Damn_Underscore posted...

So Sith are only a is single religion but Jedi are the entire "light side" ?

No, they just hold a monopoly on training force sensitives... for some reason..

And how do you become force sensitive

You're born that way

LSGW_Zephyra posted...

We don't really know. Like Titus Paulo(sp?) in Ahsoka. Like we get some idea of what a potential non-dark side Jedi get up to but not a lot.

He was also cool. Id say hes different from a Sith because he seemed indifferent towards power. Ashoka was what sequel movies shouldve been. Cause compare that to TFA where were told in press releases that Knights of Ren and Snoke are totally something new but in practice we never saw them do anything different.

bfslick50 posted...

He was also cool. Id say hes different from a Sith because he seemed indifferent towards power. Ashoka was what sequel movies shouldve been. Cause compare that to TFA where were told in press releases that Knights of Ren and Snoke are totally something new but in practice we never saw them do anything different.

Or the fact that Kylo Ren has no reason to want to take over the galaxy after killing Snoke. Nothing in his character ever even hints that but it's taken as truth because "Dark Side is evil always to the most Nth degrees"

It's not just evil. It's cartoon evil. You don't really see any Dark Lord of the Sith uninterested in conquering the galaxy and becoming a Business Tycoon or whatever equally evil thing that oppresses people.

buddah86 posted...

We need more Gray jedi! Jolee was great!

Hidalgo has said that Gray Jedi are not canon and that they never will be.**

** Until Disney tells Hidalgo...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/698912b1.jpg

https://movieweb.com/star-wars-gray-jedi-not-canon-why/