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Intro2Logic 04/10/24 8:08:05 AM #1:	https://www.wired.com/story/this-woman-will-decide-which-babies-are-born-noor-siddiqui-orchid/ --- Have you tried thinking rationally? <cite>Intro2Logic posted [p:979833739] in We're brin... [t:80743586]...</cite> <quote>https://www.wired.com/story/this-woman-will-decide-which-babies-are-born-noor-siddiqui-orchid/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JuanCarlos1 04/10/24 8:11:28 AM #2:	Hmm what piece of futuristic media shows gene editing gone wrong... --- Mas dicen, que en las dimensiones de nuestro ser... hay muchos detalles por conocer... <cite>JuanCarlos1 posted [p:979833777] in We're brin... [t:80743586]...</cite> <quote>Hmm what piece of futuristic media shows gene editing gone wrong... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 04/10/24 8:12:51 AM #3:	JuanCarlos1 posted... Hmm what piece of futuristic media shows gene editing gone wrong... Gattaca --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:979833786] in We're brin... [t:80743586]...</cite> <quote>JuanCarlos1 posted... </cite><quote>Hmm what piece of futuristic media shows gene editing gone wrong...</quote>Gattaca </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC 04/10/24 8:17:43 AM #4:	Eugenics never went away, it just switched from active (sterilization, forced breeding) to passive (picking doctors or scientists as sperm donors). --- The world may be going to Hell, but I am personally awash with convenience. <cite>DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC posted [p:979833821] in We're brin... [t:80743586]...</cite> <quote>Eugenics never went away, it just switched from active (sterilization, forced breeding) to passive (picking doctors or scientists as sperm donors). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Intro2Logic 04/10/24 12:46:57 PM #5:	Bump --- Have you tried thinking rationally? <cite>Intro2Logic posted [p:979837273] in We're brin... [t:80743586]...</cite> <quote>Bump </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CRON 04/10/24 12:49:54 PM #6:	Breaking news: Worthless nepotism baby does stupid shit with millions they never worked for --- Thanks for reading! <cite>CRON posted [p:979837312] in We're brin... [t:80743586]...</cite> <quote>Breaking news: Worthless nepotism baby does stupid shit with millions they never worked for </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Were_Wyrm 04/10/24 12:55:16 PM #7:	Kahn will be pleased --- I was a God, Valeria. I found it...beneath me. - Dr. Doom https://i.imgur.com/0EJvC4l.jpg <cite>Were_Wyrm posted [p:979837385] in We're brin... [t:80743586]...</cite> <quote>Kahn will be pleased </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 04/10/24 12:56:32 PM #8:	Back? Iceland has been bragging for years that they've effectively eliminated down syndrome in the country by encouraging pregnant women to get tested and then aborting the child if they're likely to have it. It's apparently been so effective that Denmark does it now too and has already cut the rate of down syndrome babies in half. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:979837403] in We're brin... [t:80743586]...</cite> <quote>Back? Iceland has been bragging for years that they've effectively eliminated down syndrome in the country by encouraging pregnant women to get tested and then aborting the child if they're likely to have it. It's apparently been so effective that Denmark does it now too and has already cut the rate of down syndrome babies in half. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
C_Pain 04/10/24 1:00:10 PM #9:	If women have the right to choose, what's wrong with choosing to abort a fetus who will otherwise have a developmental, physical, etc. condition that impacts quality of life for them and the parents? --- How quaint. <cite>C_Pain posted [p:979837457] in We're brin... [t:80743586]...</cite> <quote>If women have the right to choose, what's wrong with choosing to abort a fetus who will otherwise have a developmental, physical, etc. condition that impacts quality of life for them and the parents? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wanderingshade 04/10/24 1:00:24 PM #10:	Tyranthraxus posted... Gattaca I thought it was Brave New World? --- "You're made of spare parts, aren't ya, bud?" <cite>wanderingshade posted [p:979837463] in We're brin... [t:80743586]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>Gattaca</quote>I thought it was Brave New World? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 04/10/24 1:00:37 PM #11:	Were_Wyrm posted... Kahn will be pleased Kahn didn't want eugenics he wanted genocide --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:979837465] in We're brin... [t:80743586]...</cite> <quote>Were_Wyrm posted... </cite><quote>Kahn will be pleased</quote>Kahn didn't want eugenics he wanted genocide </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hereforemnant 04/10/24 1:01:48 PM #12:	C_Pain posted... If women have the right to choose, what's wrong with choosing to abort a fetus who will otherwise have a developmental, physical, etc. condition that impacts quality of life for them and the parents? Yeah eugenics has been a buzzword that panics people after WW2, but in the same way that GMOs have a negative connotation, both can be used for good or evil they're just tools to be used properly by humans. <cite>hereforemnant posted [p:979837481] in We're brin... [t:80743586]...</cite> <quote>C_Pain posted... </cite><quote>If women have the right to choose, what's wrong with choosing to abort a fetus who will otherwise have a developmental, physical, etc. condition that impacts quality of life for them and the parents?</quote>Yeah eugenics has been a buzzword that panics people after WW2, but in the same way that GMOs have a negative connotation, both can be used for good or evil they're just tools to be used properly by humans. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Plumeofdusk 04/10/24 1:02:29 PM #13:	C_Pain posted... If women have the right to choose, what's wrong with choosing to abort a fetus who will otherwise have a developmental, physical, etc. condition that impacts quality of life for them and the parents? The way I see it, it's just like pressing the reset button or rerolling your character stats. :v <cite>Plumeofdusk posted [p:979837496] in We're brin... [t:80743586]...</cite> <quote>C_Pain posted... </cite><quote>If women have the right to choose, what's wrong with choosing to abort a fetus who will otherwise have a developmental, physical, etc. condition that impacts quality of life for them and the parents?</quote>The way I see it, it's just like pressing the reset button or rerolling your character stats. :v </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 04/10/24 1:03:46 PM #14:	Aborting a fetus with a defect isn't eugenics by the way. Eugenics is literally the sterilization of people who have poor genetic qualities they're likely to pass on. If you abort a fetus you can always try again later. Under eugenics you wouldn't be allowed to. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:979837514] in We're brin... [t:80743586]...</cite> <quote>Aborting a fetus with a defect isn't eugenics by the way. Eugenics is literally the sterilization of people who have poor genetic qualities they're likely to pass on. If you abort a fetus you can always try again later. Under eugenics you wouldn't be allowed to. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Were_Wyrm 04/10/24 1:05:16 PM #15:	Tyranthraxus posted... Kahn didn't want eugenics he wanted genocide You rarely get to step 4 by skipping step 1. --- I was a God, Valeria. I found it...beneath me. - Dr. Doom https://i.imgur.com/0EJvC4l.jpg <cite>Were_Wyrm posted [p:979837535] in We're brin... [t:80743586]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>Kahn didn't want eugenics he wanted genocide</quote>You rarely get to step 4 by skipping step 1. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RetuenOfDevsman 04/10/24 1:05:22 PM #16:	wanderingshade posted... I thought it was Brave New World? Never read BNW, so it could be both. GATTACA is definitely about this though. And it just so happens to be my very favorite movie. --- There's a difference between canon and not-stupid. <cite>RetuenOfDevsman posted [p:979837536] in We're brin... [t:80743586]...</cite> <quote>wanderingshade posted... </cite><quote>I thought it was Brave New World?</quote>Never read BNW, so it could be both.GATTACA is definitely about this though. And it just so happens to be my very favorite movie. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 04/10/24 1:05:55 PM #17:	Honestly, eugenics is only a major problem when it's forced. Everything else is a natural conclusion of reproductive freedom. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:979837547] in We're brin... [t:80743586]...</cite> <quote>Honestly, eugenics is only a major problem when it's forced. Everything else is a natural conclusion of reproductive freedom. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
aarrgus 04/10/24 1:08:23 PM #18:	Please say in pog form... please say in pog form..... clicks topic Dammit! --- Last night I was lying in bed, staring at the stars, and I wondered... Where the *** is my roof?* <cite>aarrgus posted [p:979837592] in We're brin... [t:80743586]...</cite> <quote>Please say in pog form... please say in pog form.....clicks topicDammit! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hereforemnant 04/10/24 1:10:25 PM #19:	Tyranthraxus posted... Aborting a fetus with a defect isn't eugenics by the way. Eugenics is literally the sterilization of people who have poor genetic qualities they're likely to pass on. If you abort a fetus you can always try again later. Under eugenics you wouldn't be allowed to. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/7fa3263f.jpg Normally I don't think you're wrong about much, but it's one hell of an opinion to say "selectively aborting fetuses isn't eugenics" when it's still a hotly contested subject by people who are bioengineers & much more educated than us about the subject matter. It's up in the air & could be argued either way, the same way there was a distinction made by GMOs that were done through cross breeding flora species, & organisms that went through CRISPR or gene editing. <cite>hereforemnant posted [p:979837625] in We're brin... [t:80743586]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>Aborting a fetus with a defect isn't eugenics by the way. Eugenics is literally the sterilization of people who have poor genetic qualities they're likely to pass on. If you abort a fetus you can always try again later. Under eugenics you wouldn't be allowed to.</quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/7fa3263f.jpgNormally I don't think you're wrong about much, but it's one hell of an opinion to say "selectively aborting fetuses isn't eugenics" when it's still a hotly contested subject by people who are bioengineers & much more educated than us about the subject matter. It's up in the air & could be argued either way, the same way there was a distinction made by GMOs that were done through cross breeding flora species, & organisms that went through CRISPR or gene editing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 04/10/24 1:14:23 PM #20:	hereforemnant posted... Normally I don't think you're wrong about much, but it's one hell of an opinion to say "selectively aborting fetuses isn't eugenics" when it's still a hotly contested subject by people who are bioengineers & much more educated than us about the subject matter. It's up in the air & could be argued either way, the same way there was a distinction made by GMOs that were done through cross breeding flora species, & organisms that went through CRISPR or gene editing. Fair point though by the same token it's also an overstep to say selective abortion is definitively eugenics. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:979837692] in We're brin... [t:80743586]...</cite> <quote>hereforemnant posted... </cite><quote>Normally I don't think you're wrong about much, but it's one hell of an opinion to say "selectively aborting fetuses isn't eugenics" when it's still a hotly contested subject by people who are bioengineers & much more educated than us about the subject matter. It's up in the air & could be argued either way, the same way there was a distinction made by GMOs that were done through cross breeding flora species, & organisms that went through CRISPR or gene editing.</quote>Fair point though by the same token it's also an overstep to say selective abortion is definitively eugenics. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZMythos 04/10/24 1:14:37 PM #21:	hereforemnant posted... GMOs that were done through cross breeding flora species, & organisms that went through CRISPR or gene editing. I don't necessarily see the "moral" difference between these two practices. --- Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars" AutumnEspirit: kissu <cite>ZMythos posted [p:979837698] in We're brin... [t:80743586]...</cite> <quote>hereforemnant posted... </cite><quote>GMOs that were done through cross breeding flora species, & organisms that went through CRISPR or gene editing.</quote>I don't necessarily see the "moral" difference between these two practices. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hereforemnant 04/10/24 1:19:43 PM #22:	Tyranthraxus posted... Fair point though by the same token it's also an overstep to say selective abortion is definitively eugenics. It's one of those topics that I think is fair to be argued for in either direction. It comes down to a person's morals & ethics. I would say that selectively aborting fetuses that you know will have debilitations or abnormalities is trying to control for more healthy progeny through eugenics, others might say no unless cells are being specifically altered through gene editing. & Zmythos, I don't know if I'd say it's a "moral" quandary for GMOs as an aside. From what I know & see, the word has been heavily bastardized by misinformation & uninformed people knowing it as a boogeyman just like MSG. When ultimately, given climate change, pesticides, & as populations increase & resources become more scarce, technologies like GMOs will become incredibly important as a logical imperative, instead of being a moral dilemma. <cite>hereforemnant posted [p:979837789] in We're brin... [t:80743586]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>Fair point though by the same token it's also an overstep to say selective abortion is definitively eugenics.</quote>It's one of those topics that I think is fair to be argued for in either direction. It comes down to a person's morals & ethics. I would say that selectively aborting fetuses that you know will have debilitations or abnormalities is trying to control for more healthy progeny through eugenics, others might say no unless cells are being specifically altered through gene editing. & Zmythos, I don't know if I'd say it's a "moral" quandary for GMOs as an aside. From what I know & see, the word has been heavily bastardized by misinformation & uninformed people knowing it as a boogeyman just like MSG. When ultimately, given climate change, pesticides, & as populations increase & resources become more scarce, technologies like GMOs will become incredibly important as a logical imperative, instead of being a moral dilemma. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Full_Pokedex 04/10/24 1:20:39 PM #23:	Were_Wyrm posted... You rarely get to step 4 by skipping step 1. Is this guy advocating for genocide? --- Donkey Kong is our friend! Please call often DK, don't be a stranger! From Toadsworth, Mario Party 7 Vote Larry Hogan for 2024. <cite>Full_Pokedex posted [p:979837802] in We're brin... [t:80743586]...</cite> <quote>Were_Wyrm posted... </cite><quote>You rarely get to step 4 by skipping step 1.</quote>Is this guy advocating for genocide? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC 04/11/24 12:13:28 AM #24:	Full_Pokedex posted... Is this guy advocating for genocide? But random, dispassionate. Fair to rich and poor alike. --- The world may be going to Hell, but I am personally awash with convenience. <cite>DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC posted [p:979848045] in We're brin... [t:80743586]...</cite> <quote>Full_Pokedex posted... </cite><quote>Is this guy advocating for genocide?</quote>But random, dispassionate. Fair to rich and poor alike. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ablegator 04/11/24 12:23:07 AM #25:	Then other boys dont know how to act. Yeah. --- Why be stupid? Does it make you happy to be stupid? <cite>ablegator posted [p:979848183] in We're brin... [t:80743586]...</cite> <quote>Then other boys dont know how to act.Yeah. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Notti 04/14/24 7:51:51 AM #27:	hereforemnant posted... could be argued either way, the same way there was a distinction made by GMOs that were done through cross breeding flora species, & organisms that went through CRISPR or gene editing. Unfortunately people do make a distinction here because one feels "more natural" --- http://m.youtube.com/TheYoungTurks/videos Bernie>Biden>poo>Trump http://RightWingWatch.org http://reddit.com/r/BreadTube http://fb.me/OccupyDemocrats <cite>Notti posted [p:979899895] in We're brin... [t:80743586]...</cite> <quote>hereforemnant posted... </cite><quote>could be argued either way, the same way there was a distinction made by GMOs that were done through cross breeding flora species, & organisms that went through CRISPR or gene editing.</quote>Unfortunately people do make a distinction here because one feels "more natural" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rexcrk 04/14/24 7:55:43 AM #29:	aarrgus posted... Please say in pog form... please say in pog form..... clicks topic Dammit! Best post in the topic --- Shplendid! <cite>rexcrk posted [p:979899928] in We're brin... [t:80743586]...</cite> <quote>aarrgus posted... </cite><quote>Please say in pog form... please say in pog form.....clicks topicDammit!</quote>Best post in the topic </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 04/14/24 7:57:49 AM #30:	The way I see it, forcing the woman to have an abortion would be eugenics. Letting her decide herself is not. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:979899951] in We're brin... [t:80743586]...</cite> <quote>The way I see it, forcing the woman to have an abortion would be eugenics.Letting her decide herself is not. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
uwnim 04/14/24 8:13:55 AM #31:	There's different types of eugenics. Most people think of like forced sterilization of "undesirables" which is pretty fucked up. Something like this though is a pretty good thing. And yes, a woman choosing to abort because of genetic reasons, or having a bunch of embryos made and selecting the best is eugenics. But because eugenics has been tainted, people in support of this sort of thing try to claim it doesn't actually count. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] <cite>uwnim posted [p:979900053] in We're brin... [t:80743586]...</cite> <quote>There's different types of eugenics. Most people think of like forced sterilization of "undesirables" which is pretty fucked up. Something like this though is a pretty good thing. And yes, a woman choosing to abort because of genetic reasons, or having a bunch of embryos made and selecting the best is eugenics. But because eugenics has been tainted, people in support of this sort of thing try to claim it doesn't actually count. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EyeWontBeFooled 04/14/24 8:15:48 AM #32:	Were_Wyrm posted... Kahn will be pleased Freaking SERIOUSLY --- Resident Shiny Hunter of CE 307 Shinys and counting! <cite>EyeWontBeFooled posted [p:979900063] in We're brin... [t:80743586]...</cite> <quote>Were_Wyrm posted... </cite><quote>Kahn will be pleased</quote>Freaking SERIOUSLY </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RetuenOfDevsman 04/14/24 1:33:31 PM #33:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Is that a real thing? --- There's a difference between canon and not-stupid. <cite>RetuenOfDevsman posted [p:979903457] in We're brin... [t:80743586]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Is that a real thing? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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