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Thanatos_the_Great 04/08/24 6:32:04 PM #51:	CyborgSage00x0 posted... It's endlessly frustrating to see people not understand that Presidents aren't God-Kings that can issue creeds by the wave of their hand. Biden actually could stop gifts of cash and weapons to the Israeli government with a wave of his hand. That's a thing he has the power to do as president. You may think he shouldn't do it (which is a fucking weird opinion in itself - especially given that doing it would help him get reelected, keep Trump out and preserve some hope of restoring abortion rights, which I think is kind of important - but you're entitled to weird opinions), but you can't get away with pretending he can't. --- Re-open board 261. <cite>Thanatos_the_Great posted [p:979809219] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>CyborgSage00x0 posted... </cite><quote>It's endlessly frustrating to see people not understand that Presidents aren't God-Kings that can issue creeds by the wave of their hand.</quote>Biden actually could stop gifts of cash and weapons to the Israeli government with a wave of his hand. That's a thing he has the power to do as president. You may think he shouldn't do it (which is a fucking weird opinion in itself - especially given that doing it would help him get reelected, keep Trump out and preserve some hope of restoring abortion rights, which I think is kind of important - but you're entitled to weird opinions), but you can't get away with pretending he can't. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybabe89 04/08/24 6:32:26 PM #52:	Thanatos_the_Great posted... A powerful and necessary ad. I hope they only get even harsher as the campaign goes on, because reality demands it. These posts just show that y'all are more interested in whining about leftists than about stopping fascism. Peak centrist behaviour. Leftists aren't seeing abortion and humans rights for minorities being at severe risk and going "Is it really worth voting if neither party will take out Israel?" --- https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png she/her <cite>hockeybabe89 posted [p:979809225] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>Thanatos_the_Great posted... </cite><quote>A powerful and necessary ad. I hope they only get even harsher as the campaign goes on, because reality demands it.These posts just show that y'all are more interested in whining about leftists than about stopping fascism. Peak centrist behaviour.</quote>Leftists aren't seeing abortion and humans rights for minorities being at severe risk and going "Is it really worth voting if neither party will take out Israel?" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkace77450 04/08/24 6:34:48 PM #53:	Thanatos_the_Great posted... ...especially given that doing it would help him get reelected... This is a badly informed opinion. <cite>darkace77450 posted [p:979809259] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>Thanatos_the_Great posted... </cite><quote>...especially given that doing it would help him get reelected...</quote>This is a badly informed opinion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranAures 04/08/24 6:34:50 PM #54:	Tyranthraxus posted... lmao the arguments are literally the fucking same almost word for word it's like they're bots. Maybe they are. It's like they happily ignore the dead even split in the senate and the current slight rep majority in the house(?) to try to blame things not happening on Biden despite the obstructionist assholes blocking everything they can. And we can all bet good money on what their response would be if Biden just threw out the rules and went iron fist to force the changes they claim to want. Umbreon posted... "Why didn't you save us from ourselves?!" I'd almost say it's closer to the usual "Why aren't you fixing the problems fast enough?!" while ignorant at best as to how the system works and maliciously disingenuous at worst. Regardless, the same usual stuff we see from people who claim to care but oddly are against actually doing the easiest thing to help prevent what they claim to hate. --- Just because I have 99% of a heart doesn't mean it can't kill me. It's tried. Twice. My body has a dongle and my heart doesn't care. He/They <cite>GranAures posted [p:979809261] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>lmao the arguments are literally the fucking same almost word for word it's like they're bots. Maybe they are.</quote>It's like they happily ignore the dead even split in the senate and the current slight rep majority in the house(?) to try to blame things not happening on Biden despite the obstructionist assholes blocking everything they can.And we can all bet good money on what their response would be if Biden just threw out the rules and went iron fist to force the changes they claim to want.Umbreon posted... </cite><quote>"Why didn't you save us from ourselves?!"</quote>I'd almost say it's closer to the usual "Why aren't you fixing the problems fast enough?!" while ignorant at best as to how the system works and maliciously disingenuous at worst. Regardless, the same usual stuff we see from people who claim to care but oddly are against actually doing the easiest thing to help prevent what they claim to hate. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gritty 04/08/24 6:36:58 PM #55:	Thanatos_the_Great posted... A powerful and necessary ad. I hope they only get even harsher as the campaign goes on, because reality demands it. These posts just show that y'all are more interested in whining about leftists than about stopping fascism. Peak centrist behaviour. says the trumper trying to troll <cite>Gritty posted [p:979809285] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>Thanatos_the_Great posted... </cite><quote>A powerful and necessary ad. I hope they only get even harsher as the campaign goes on, because reality demands it.These posts just show that y'all are more interested in whining about leftists than about stopping fascism. Peak centrist behaviour.</quote>says the trumper trying to troll</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thanatos_the_Great 04/08/24 6:38:06 PM #56:	hockeybabe89 posted... Leftists aren't seeing abortion and humans rights for minorities being at severe risk and going "Is it really worth voting if neither party will take out Israel?" No, they aren't (or a vanishingly tiny number are). But it seems like quite a lot of centrists are seeing abortion and humans rights for minorities being at severe risk and going "Is it really worth keeping Trump out of the White House if it will mean America might stop sending cash and weapons to the genocidal regime in Israel?" darkace77450 posted... This is a badly informed opinion. No one in these topics ever, despite repeatedly being challenged to do so, explains why Biden arming and funding a genocide will help, rather than hinder, his reelection prospects. --- Re-open board 261. <cite>Thanatos_the_Great posted [p:979809305] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>hockeybabe89 posted... </cite><quote>Leftists aren't seeing abortion and humans rights for minorities being at severe risk and going "Is it really worth voting if neither party will take out Israel?"</quote>No, they aren't (or a vanishingly tiny number are). But it seems like quite a lot of centrists are seeing abortion and humans rights for minorities being at severe risk and going "Is it really worth keeping Trump out of the White House if it will mean America might stop sending cash and weapons to the genocidal regime in Israel?"darkace77450 posted... </cite><quote>This is a badly informed opinion.</quote>No one in these topics ever, despite repeatedly being challenged to do so, explains why Biden arming and funding a genocide will help, rather than hinder, his reelection prospects. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Will_VIIII 04/08/24 6:38:52 PM #57:	Gritty posted... says the trumper trying to troll Oh, is that what's happening here? --- Advice from a dryer: Open the door to amazement. Don't shrink from your true calling. Accept life's wrinkles. Avoid overload. Reach into mystery! <cite>Will_VIIII posted [p:979809314] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>Gritty posted... </cite><quote>says the trumper trying to troll</quote>Oh, is that what's happening here? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Will_VIIII 04/08/24 6:39:30 PM #58:	Thanatos_the_Great posted... Biden arming and funding a genocide Unless you're unemployed you're actively funding it too, and can choose not to. --- Advice from a dryer: Open the door to amazement. Don't shrink from your true calling. Accept life's wrinkles. Avoid overload. Reach into mystery! <cite>Will_VIIII posted [p:979809322] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>Thanatos_the_Great posted... </cite><quote>Biden arming and funding a genocide</quote>Unless you're unemployed you're actively funding it too, and can choose not to. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ButteryMales 04/08/24 6:40:49 PM #59:	hockeybabe89 posted... But Gaza Why does this topic need to be a competition on genocide vs. abortion access? All mentioning Gaza does is remind me how bad genocide is and not to reconsider my choice to not vote for Biden. <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:979809339] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>hockeybabe89 posted...</cite><quote>But Gaza</quote>Why does this topic need to be a competition on genocide vs. abortion access?All mentioning Gaza does is remind me how bad genocide is and not to reconsider my choice to not vote for Biden.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bluezero 04/08/24 6:42:09 PM #60:	I feel like putting this on FB and tagging the WOMAN who gleefully celebrated the death of Roe v Wade, because she's super super Christian. I'll think about it. --- i7-12700F - 3080 - 64GB 3200 - 1440p Ultrawide <cite>bluezero posted [p:979809358] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>I feel like putting this on FB and tagging the WOMAN who gleefully celebrated the death of Roe v Wade, because she's super super Christian. I'll think about it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gritty 04/08/24 6:43:17 PM #61:	bluezero posted... I feel like putting this on FB and tagging the WOMAN who gleefully celebrated the death of Roe v Wade, because she's super super Christian. I'll think about it. C words like that wont ever get a clue sadly id still say do it cuz itll trigger the fuck outta her <cite>Gritty posted [p:979809373] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>bluezero posted... </cite><quote>I feel like putting this on FB and tagging the WOMAN who gleefully celebrated the death of Roe v Wade, because she's super super Christian. I'll think about it.</quote>C words like that wont ever get a clue sadlyid still say do it cuz itll trigger the fuck outta her </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
havean776 04/08/24 6:46:07 PM #62:	ButteryMales posted... Why does this topic need to be a competition on genocide vs. abortion access? All mentioning Gaza does is remind me how bad genocide is and not to reconsider my choice to not vote for Biden. You are correct the genocide will happen under both so its a moot point. The real question is do you support women rights (Biden) Or hate women (abstain) --- "I will either find a way, or make one." Hannibal Barca <cite>havean776 posted [p:979809416] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>ButteryMales posted... </cite><quote>Why does this topic need to be a competition on genocide vs. abortion access?All mentioning Gaza does is remind me how bad genocide is and not to reconsider my choice to not vote for Biden.</quote>You are correct the genocide will happen under both so its a moot point.The real question is do you support women rights (Biden)Or hate women (abstain) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JasonSehorn 04/08/24 6:46:24 PM #63:	Dont forget Trumps gestapo force sterilizing woman at the border and deporting them to keep them silnet <cite>JasonSehorn posted [p:979809421] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>Dont forget Trumps gestapo force sterilizing woman at the border and deporting them to keep them silnet</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 04/08/24 6:47:03 PM #64:	Tyranthraxus posted... lmao the arguments are literally the fucking same almost word for word it's like they're bots. Maybe they are. Yeah, the part about not browbeating concerned left wingers made me think I came back to my gamefaqs tab. lol --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:979809430] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>lmao the arguments are literally the fucking same almost word for word it's like they're bots. Maybe they are.</quote>Yeah, the part about not browbeating concerned left wingers made me think I came back to my gamefaqs tab. lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MabinogiFan 04/08/24 6:47:22 PM #65:	I didn't know women who've had miscarriages have abortions. <cite>MabinogiFan posted [p:979809434] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>I didn't know women who've had miscarriages have abortions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ButteryMales 04/08/24 6:48:02 PM #66:	havean776 posted... You are correct the genocide will happen under both so its a moot point. Things aren't true just because you want them to be. Imagine thinking a fucking genocide is moot. <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:979809440] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>havean776 posted...</cite><quote>You are correct the genocide will happen under both so its a moot point.</quote>Things aren't true just because you want them to be. Imagine thinking a fucking genocide is moot.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
havean776 04/08/24 6:49:03 PM #67:	ButteryMales posted... Things aren't true just because you want them to be. Imagine thinking a fucking genocide is moot. It is when you consider that Trump has no intrest in stoping it sooooooo. You have no control over it. Once again bringing us to Support women or don't. --- "I will either find a way, or make one." Hannibal Barca <cite>havean776 posted [p:979809457] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>ButteryMales posted... </cite><quote>Things aren't true just because you want them to be. Imagine thinking a fucking genocide is moot.</quote>It is when you consider that Trump has no intrest in stoping it sooooooo. You have no control over it.Once again bringing us to Support women or don't. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gritty 04/08/24 6:50:35 PM #68:	MabinogiFan posted... I didn't know women who've had miscarriages have abortions. This sentence is illogical <cite>Gritty posted [p:979809479] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>MabinogiFan posted... </cite><quote>I didn't know women who've had miscarriages have abortions.</quote>This sentence is illogical</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Humble_Novice 04/08/24 6:50:35 PM #69:	ButteryMales posted... Things aren't true just because you want them to be. Imagine thinking a fucking genocide is moot. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/93e6c28a.png --- Miss the old GameFAQs politics board? Then come here to discuss it with us: https://www.reddit.com/r/gamefaqs261/ <cite>Humble_Novice posted [p:979809480] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>ButteryMales posted... </cite><quote>Things aren't true just because you want them to be. Imagine thinking a fucking genocide is moot.</quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/93e6c28a.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranAures 04/08/24 6:51:13 PM #70:	havean776 posted... The real question is do you support women rights (Biden) Or hate women (abstain) And trans rights, and every other form of LGBTQ+ rights, and general rights of everybody who isn't a cis het white christian male property owner. --- Just because I have 99% of a heart doesn't mean it can't kill me. It's tried. Twice. My body has a dongle and my heart doesn't care. He/They <cite>GranAures posted [p:979809483] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>havean776 posted... </cite><quote>The real question is do you support women rights (Biden)Or hate women (abstain)</quote>And trans rights, and every other form of LGBTQ+ rights, and general rights of everybody who isn't a cis het white christian male property owner. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thanatos_the_Great 04/08/24 6:51:15 PM #71:	MabinogiFan posted... I didn't know women who've had miscarriages have abortions. If more people knew the realities of abortion, there's be a lot less opposition to it. As with so many other issues, conservatives (and fascists) are engaged in the deliberate production of ignorance on the subject. --- Re-open board 261. <cite>Thanatos_the_Great posted [p:979809484] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>MabinogiFan posted... </cite><quote>I didn't know women who've had miscarriages have abortions.</quote>If more people knew the realities of abortion, there's be a lot less opposition to it. As with so many other issues, conservatives (and fascists) are engaged in the deliberate production of ignorance on the subject. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sandalorn 04/08/24 6:58:12 PM #72:	Not a surprise ButteryMales is ok with increasing the suffering of people in the US via not voting. Not a shock at all. <cite>Sandalorn posted [p:979809590] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>Not a surprise ButteryMales is ok with increasing the suffering of people in the US via not voting. Not a shock at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranAures 04/08/24 6:58:58 PM #73:	Abstaining does nothing for the situation you claim to care about and one result is worse for that situation. If your "solution" is to still shrug and do nothing to prevent the worse case scenario then you actually don't care about that situation and instead want to use it as a reason to claim morality while doing nothing. --- Just because I have 99% of a heart doesn't mean it can't kill me. It's tried. Twice. My body has a dongle and my heart doesn't care. He/They <cite>GranAures posted [p:979809600] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>Abstaining does nothing for the situation you claim to care about and one result is worse for that situation. If your "solution" is to still shrug and do nothing to prevent the worse case scenario then you actually don't care about that situation and instead want to use it as a reason to claim morality while doing nothing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thanatos_the_Great 04/08/24 7:00:41 PM #74:	Sandalorn posted... Not a surprise ButteryMales is ok with increasing the suffering of people in the US via not voting. Not a shock at all. Yeah, that's just dumb. People should be criticising Biden for continuing to arm and fund Israel and putting political pressure on him to stop, not only because it's a bad thing in itself but because stopping it would help him get reelected. But the reality is that ultimately you're going to have to vote for him anyway if you want to stop fascism. --- Re-open board 261. <cite>Thanatos_the_Great posted [p:979809620] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>Sandalorn posted... </cite><quote>Not a surprise ButteryMales is ok with increasing the suffering of people in the US via not voting. Not a shock at all.</quote>Yeah, that's just dumb. People should be criticising Biden for continuing to arm and fund Israel and putting political pressure on him to stop, not only because it's a bad thing in itself but because stopping it would help him get reelected. But the reality is that ultimately you're going to have to vote for him anyway if you want to stop fascism. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 04/08/24 7:01:44 PM #75:	Cool, another topic devolved into an Israel bitch fest. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:979809643] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>Cool, another topic devolved into an Israel bitch fest. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sandalorn 04/08/24 7:02:34 PM #76:	GranAures posted... Abstaining does nothing for the situation you claim to care about and one result is worse for that situation. If your "solution" is to still shrug and do nothing to prevent the worse case scenario then you actually don't care about that situation and instead want to use it as a reason to claim morality while doing nothing. Yep...He just uses the Gaza Genocide as his personal morality pedestal to make himself feel superior while actually running away and hiding from the issue in reality. Like I said - Not a shock from him. It's his "thing". <cite>Sandalorn posted [p:979809658] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>GranAures posted... </cite><quote>Abstaining does nothing for the situation you claim to care about and one result is worse for that situation. If your "solution" is to still shrug and do nothing to prevent the worse case scenario then you actually don't care about that situation and instead want to use it as a reason to claim morality while doing nothing.</quote>Yep...He just uses the Gaza Genocide as his personal morality pedestal to make himself feel superior while actually running away and hiding from the issue in reality. Like I said - Not a shock from him. It's his "thing".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkace77450 04/08/24 7:02:45 PM #77:	Thanatos_the_Great posted... No one in these topics ever, despite repeatedly being challenged to do so, explains why Biden arming and funding a genocide will help, rather than hinder, his reelection prospects. It has been explained, actually. Many times, in fact. If Biden supports Israel, he's going to lose pro-Palestine votes. If he cuts Israel off, he's going to lose pro-Israel votes. Not all Zionists vote Republican. Ergo, "this is a badly informed opinion." Thanatos_the_Great posted... But it seems like quite a lot of centrists are seeing abortion and humans rights for minorities being at severe risk and going "Is it really worth keeping Trump out of the White House if it will mean America might stop sending cash and weapons to the genocidal regime in Israel?" Your choices are voting as follows. Biden, who is sending cash and weapons to Israel. Trump, who will send cash and weapons to Israel and bring fascism to America - which necessitates persecution of out-groups. Not vote, which does nothing to help the former defeat the latter. <cite>darkace77450 posted [p:979809661] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>Thanatos_the_Great posted... </cite><quote>No one in these topics ever, despite repeatedly being challenged to do so, explains why Biden arming and funding a genocide will help, rather than hinder, his reelection prospects.</quote>It has been explained, actually. Many times, in fact. If Biden supports Israel, he's going to lose pro-Palestine votes. If he cuts Israel off, he's going to lose pro-Israel votes. Not all Zionists vote Republican. Ergo, "this is a badly informed opinion."Thanatos_the_Great posted... </cite><quote>But it seems like quite a lot of centrists are seeing abortion and humans rights for minorities being at severe risk and going "Is it really worth keeping Trump out of the White House if it will mean America might stop sending cash and weapons to the genocidal regime in Israel?"</quote>Your choices are voting as follows.Biden, who is sending cash and weapons to Israel.Trump, who will send cash and weapons to Israel and bring fascism to America - which necessitates persecution of out-groups.Not vote, which does nothing to help the former defeat the latter.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ButteryMales 04/08/24 7:02:47 PM #78:	Sandalorn posted... Not a surprise ButteryMales is ok with increasing the suffering of people in the US via not voting. Not a shock at all. I'm not okay with suffering. That's why I'm not voting for genocide. I wouldn't have posted at all in this topic if the genocide in Gaza wasn't unnecessarily and constantly brought up. <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:979809663] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>Sandalorn posted...</cite><quote>Not a surprise ButteryMales is ok with increasing the suffering of people in the US via not voting. Not a shock at all.</quote>I'm not okay with suffering. That's why I'm not voting for genocide.I wouldn't have posted at all in this topic if the genocide in Gaza wasn't unnecessarily and constantly brought up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranAures 04/08/24 7:06:24 PM #79:	Sandalorn posted... Yep...He just uses the Gaza Genocide as his personal morality pedestal to make himself feel superior while actually running away and hiding from the issue in reality. Like I said - Not a shock from him. It's his "thing". It's not even just a Gaza thing, it applies to the image on the last page too. Just as true for claiming to support abortions and trans healthcare but trying to blame Biden as a justification to abstain and do nothing to prevent the group actively attacking those rights. --- Just because I have 99% of a heart doesn't mean it can't kill me. It's tried. Twice. My body has a dongle and my heart doesn't care. He/They <cite>GranAures posted [p:979809714] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>Sandalorn posted... </cite><quote>Yep...He just uses the Gaza Genocide as his personal morality pedestal to make himself feel superior while actually running away and hiding from the issue in reality. Like I said - Not a shock from him. It's his "thing".</quote>It's not even just a Gaza thing, it applies to the image on the last page too. Just as true for claiming to support abortions and trans healthcare but trying to blame Biden as a justification to abstain and do nothing to prevent the group actively attacking those rights. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sandalorn 04/08/24 7:07:22 PM #80:	ButteryMales posted... I'm not okay with suffering. That's why I'm not voting for genocide. I wouldn't have posted at all in this topic if the genocide in Gaza wasn't unnecessarily and constantly brought up. When you make choices that actually lead to a worsening of the situation then I don't think you give a shit at all. But I know logic and reason might not reach you way up on that cross. <cite>Sandalorn posted [p:979809731] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>ButteryMales posted... </cite><quote>I'm not okay with suffering. That's why I'm not voting for genocide.I wouldn't have posted at all in this topic if the genocide in Gaza wasn't unnecessarily and constantly brought up.</quote>When you make choices that actually lead to a worsening of the situation then I don't think you give a shit at all. But I know logic and reason might not reach you way up on that cross.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 04/08/24 7:07:42 PM #81:	ButteryMales posted... I'm not okay with suffering. Your insistence on abstaining in the 2024 election determined that was a lie. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) <cite>Umbreon posted [p:979809736] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>ButteryMales posted... </cite><quote>I'm not okay with suffering. </quote>Your insistence on abstaining in the 2024 election determined that was a lie. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thanatos_the_Great 04/08/24 7:10:52 PM #82:	darkace77450 posted... Your choices are voting as follows. I'm not talking about voting (I've always said people should vote for Biden, given what the alternative is), I'm talking about activism and political pressure. And the dumb idea some people seem to have that any criticism of Biden whatsoever on this issue means you're helping Trump. --- Re-open board 261. <cite>Thanatos_the_Great posted [p:979809775] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>darkace77450 posted... </cite><quote>Your choices are voting as follows.</quote>I'm not talking about voting (I've always said people should vote for Biden, given what the alternative is), I'm talking about activism and political pressure. And the dumb idea some people seem to have that any criticism of Biden whatsoever on this issue means you're helping Trump. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Will_VIIII 04/08/24 7:11:22 PM #83:	ButteryMales posted... I'm not okay with suffering. That's why I'm not voting for genocide. I wouldn't have posted at all in this topic if the genocide in Gaza wasn't unnecessarily and constantly brought up. Are you employed or do you have real conviction and ceased paying taxes to support the genocide? --- Advice from a dryer: Open the door to amazement. Don't shrink from your true calling. Accept life's wrinkles. Avoid overload. Reach into mystery! <cite>Will_VIIII posted [p:979809782] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>ButteryMales posted... </cite><quote>I'm not okay with suffering. That's why I'm not voting for genocide.I wouldn't have posted at all in this topic if the genocide in Gaza wasn't unnecessarily and constantly brought up.</quote>Are you employed or do you have real conviction and ceased paying taxes to support the genocide? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranAures 04/08/24 7:11:41 PM #84:	GranAures posted... Abstaining does nothing for the situation you claim to care about and one result is worse for that situation. If your "solution" is to still shrug and do nothing to prevent the worse case scenario then you actually don't care about that situation and instead want to use it as a reason to claim morality while doing nothing. --- Just because I have 99% of a heart doesn't mean it can't kill me. It's tried. Twice. My body has a dongle and my heart doesn't care. He/They <cite>GranAures posted [p:979809792] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>GranAures posted... </cite><quote>Abstaining does nothing for the situation you claim to care about and one result is worse for that situation. If your "solution" is to still shrug and do nothing to prevent the worse case scenario then you actually don't care about that situation and instead want to use it as a reason to claim morality while doing nothing.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shadow_Don 04/08/24 7:13:21 PM #85:	I wonder if any of them would actually vote for Trump if he pledged to stop Israel --- "The soul in the darkness sins, but the real sinner is he who caused the darkness." - Victor Hugo <cite>Shadow_Don posted [p:979809808] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>I wonder if any of them would actually vote for Trump if he pledged to stop Israel </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 04/08/24 7:14:03 PM #86:	ButteryMales posted... I'm not okay with suffering. That's why I'm not voting for genocide. I wouldn't have posted at all in this topic if the genocide in Gaza wasn't unnecessarily and constantly brought up. Voting for Trump votes for genocide and fascism. Not voting at all enables genocide and fascism. You'll have a nice view from that moral highground though as everything burns down around you. At least, until the fire reaches you. --- Furthermore, The GOP is a Fascist Organization and must be destroyed <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:979809818] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>ButteryMales posted... </cite><quote>I'm not okay with suffering. That's why I'm not voting for genocide.I wouldn't have posted at all in this topic if the genocide in Gaza wasn't unnecessarily and constantly brought up.</quote>Voting for Trump votes for genocide and fascism. Not voting at all enables genocide and fascism. You'll have a nice view from that moral highground though as everything burns down around you. At least, until the fire reaches you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranAures 04/08/24 7:15:14 PM #87:	Shadow_Don posted... I wonder if any of them would actually vote for Trump if he pledged to stop Israel Oh, many would run with the excuse then try to give a shocked face when that obvious lie turned out to be an obvious lie. --- Just because I have 99% of a heart doesn't mean it can't kill me. It's tried. Twice. My body has a dongle and my heart doesn't care. He/They <cite>GranAures posted [p:979809840] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>Shadow_Don posted... </cite><quote>I wonder if any of them would actually vote for Trump if he pledged to stop Israel</quote>Oh, many would run with the excuse then try to give a shocked face when that obvious lie turned out to be an obvious lie. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Punished_Blinx 04/08/24 7:17:14 PM #88:	The kind of necessary gut punches that are needed. Hypotheticals, headlines and statistics are easy to ignore. Hearing the heartbreak and emotion from someone who has personally experienced hits that deeper. That's putting yourself or someone you know in that shows which makes it more confronting. --- A Fallen Mascot <cite>Punished_Blinx posted [p:979809868] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>The kind of necessary gut punches that are needed. Hypotheticals, headlines and statistics are easy to ignore. Hearing the heartbreak and emotion from someone who has personally experienced hits that deeper. That's putting yourself or someone you know in that shows which makes it more confronting. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ItsNotA2Mer 04/08/24 7:17:24 PM #89:	Thanatos_the_Great posted... And the dumb idea some people seem to have that any criticism of Biden whatsoever on this issue means you're helping Trump. Let me make it all better for you. Biden isn't a perfect president, Biden deserves criticism. Abstaining from voting helps Trump. Does that cover it? --- It is impossible to live in the past, difficult to live in the present, and a waste to live in the future. (He/Him). <cite>ItsNotA2Mer posted [p:979809872] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>Thanatos_the_Great posted... </cite><quote>And the dumb idea some people seem to have that any criticism of Biden whatsoever on this issue means you're helping Trump.</quote>Let me make it all better for you. Biden isn't a perfect president, Biden deserves criticism. Abstaining from voting helps Trump. Does that cover it? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thanatos_the_Great 04/08/24 7:18:33 PM #90:	ItsNotA2Mer posted... Abstaining from voting helps Trump. Why are you telling me this? I've never encouraged anyone to abstain from voting. --- Re-open board 261. <cite>Thanatos_the_Great posted [p:979809889] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>ItsNotA2Mer posted... </cite><quote>Abstaining from voting helps Trump.</quote>Why are you telling me this? I've never encouraged anyone to abstain from voting. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Will_VIIII 04/08/24 7:19:02 PM #91:	They don't actually feel that strongly about it. If they did then they'd put they money where their mouth is and cease enabling the conflict by resigning from their jobs. --- Advice from a dryer: Open the door to amazement. Don't shrink from your true calling. Accept life's wrinkles. Avoid overload. Reach into mystery! <cite>Will_VIIII posted [p:979809898] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>They don't actually feel that strongly about it. If they did then they'd put they money where their mouth is and cease enabling the conflict by resigning from their jobs. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ButteryMales 04/08/24 7:23:13 PM #92:	Umbreon posted... Your insistence on abstaining in the 2024 election determined that was a lie. Someone could say Your insistence on voting in the 2024 election means you don't care about Palestine. You could secretly be a Trumper as Democrats just look shitty mentioning Gaza in a topic that the genocide shouldn't be mentioned in. Will_VIIII posted... Are you employed or do you have real conviction and ceased paying taxes to support the genocide? Taxes don't just pay for genocide. There's many social safety nets in the United States. Shadow_Don posted... I wonder if any of them would actually vote for Trump if he pledged to stop Israel Trump constantly lies. I would never vote for him. <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:979809957] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>Umbreon posted...</cite><quote>Your insistence on abstaining in the 2024 election determined that was a lie.</quote>Someone could say<quote>Your insistence on voting in the 2024 election means you don't care about Palestine.</quote>You could secretly be a Trumper as Democrats just look shitty mentioning Gaza in a topic that the genocide shouldn't be mentioned in.Will_VIIII posted...</cite><quote>Are you employed or do you have real conviction and ceased paying taxes to support the genocide?</quote>Taxes don't just pay for genocide. There's many social safety nets in the United States.Shadow_Don posted...</cite><quote>I wonder if any of them would actually vote for Trump if he pledged to stop Israel</quote>Trump constantly lies. I would never vote for him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shadow_Don 04/08/24 7:25:02 PM #93:	ButteryMales posted... Trump constantly lies. I would never vote for him. Assume you had a compelling reason to believe him on this one issue --- "The soul in the darkness sins, but the real sinner is he who caused the darkness." - Victor Hugo <cite>Shadow_Don posted [p:979809995] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>ButteryMales posted... </cite><quote>Trump constantly lies. I would never vote for him.</quote>Assume you had a compelling reason to believe him on this one issue </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybabe89 04/08/24 7:27:01 PM #94:	ButteryMales posted... Taxes don't just pay for genocide. There's many social safety nets in the United States. One could say the same for an election when you only have two choices and there are lots of issues in play. ButteryMales posted... Trump constantly lies. I would never vote for him. Then shut the fuck up and vote against him. You care more about your ego and your pride than you do Palestinians or any at-risk American. --- https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png she/her <cite>hockeybabe89 posted [p:979810021] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>ButteryMales posted... </cite><quote>Taxes don't just pay for genocide. There's many social safety nets in the United States.</quote>One could say the same for an election when you only have two choices and there are lots of issues in play.ButteryMales posted... </cite><quote>Trump constantly lies. I would never vote for him.</quote>Then shut the fuck up and vote against him. You care more about your ego and your pride than you do Palestinians or any at-risk American. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 04/08/24 7:27:25 PM #95:	ButteryMales posted... Taxes don't just pay for genocide. There's many social safety nets in the United States. So is your argument here also that Biden is all genocide all the time or do you feel he is also engaging in other things like social safety nets? By the way, I have a friend whose father wrote a letter in response to the Vietnam draft card he got that said "come and arrest me because I'd rather go to jail." He didn't flee the country or anything, just told the draft department to fuck off. So you always have that option you know. Don't pay your taxes and go to jail for your cause. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:979810027] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>ButteryMales posted... </cite><quote>Taxes don't just pay for genocide. There's many social safety nets in the United States.</quote>So is your argument here also that Biden is all genocide all the time or do you feel he is also engaging in other things like social safety nets?By the way, I have a friend whose father wrote a letter in response to the Vietnam draft card he got that said "come and arrest me because I'd rather go to jail." He didn't flee the country or anything, just told the draft department to fuck off. So you always have that option you know. Don't pay your taxes and go to jail for your cause. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranAures 04/08/24 7:28:55 PM #96:	And yet one person being a "shitty looking Democrat" for saying "But Gaza" mockingly had you running in here playing that exact line straight and then going through the same usual "I care but I won't actually do anything" moral grandstanding that we see time and again because you wanted to let everyone know how morally apathetic you were instead of just hiding the topic. hockeybabe89 posted... Then shut the fuck up and vote against him. You care more about your ego and your pride than you do Palestinians or any at-risk American. Bing bong. --- Just because I have 99% of a heart doesn't mean it can't kill me. It's tried. Twice. My body has a dongle and my heart doesn't care. He/They <cite>GranAures posted [p:979810048] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>And yet one person being a "shitty looking Democrat" for saying "But Gaza" mockingly had you running in here playing that exact line straight and then going through the same usual "I care but I won't actually do anything" moral grandstanding that we see time and again because you wanted to let everyone know how morally apathetic you were instead of just hiding the topic.hockeybabe89 posted... </cite><quote>Then shut the fuck up and vote against him. You care more about your ego and your pride than you do Palestinians or any at-risk American.</quote>Bing bong. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkace77450 04/08/24 7:31:25 PM #97:	Will_VIIII posted... They don't actually feel that strongly about it. If they did then they'd put they money where their mouth is and cease enabling the conflict by resigning from their jobs. This is a really stupid argument. <cite>darkace77450 posted [p:979810088] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>Will_VIIII posted... </cite><quote>They don't actually feel that strongly about it. If they did then they'd put they money where their mouth is and cease enabling the conflict by resigning from their jobs.</quote>This is a really stupid argument.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranAures 04/08/24 7:34:19 PM #98:	Tyranthraxus posted... So is your argument here also that Biden is all genocide all the time or do you feel he is also engaging in other things like social safety nets? And guess what else will be on the chopping block? Those safety nets. But hey can't be bothered to actually defend those. --- Just because I have 99% of a heart doesn't mean it can't kill me. It's tried. Twice. My body has a dongle and my heart doesn't care. He/They <cite>GranAures posted [p:979810118] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>So is your argument here also that Biden is all genocide all the time or do you feel he is also engaging in other things like social safety nets?</quote>And guess what else will be on the chopping block? Those safety nets. But hey can't be bothered to actually defend those. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybabe89 04/08/24 7:35:04 PM #99:	Thanatos_the_Great posted... No one in these topics ever, despite repeatedly being challenged to do so, explains why Biden arming and funding a genocide will help, rather than hinder, his reelection prospects. I can't speak for everyone, but it's because I'm not trying to sell people on Biden. I will vote for literally anyone you put in front of me if they are less bad than Trump. Actual good people, actual moral people, understand harm mitigation and aren't going to look at the only two realistic options they have, recognize one is objectively far worse, and go "Why shouldn't I cut off my nose if the other side isn't doing anything to earn my vote beyond keeping my nose on my face? If I stay home and everyone loses their nose, maybe the voters will get angry and force the less bad side to be a good side! Hopefully not too many people will bleed out from their facial wound before that revolution happens! I am a good person who cares about everyone!" --- https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png she/her <cite>hockeybabe89 posted [p:979810125] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>Thanatos_the_Great posted... </cite><quote>No one in these topics ever, despite repeatedly being challenged to do so, explains why Biden arming and funding a genocide will help, rather than hinder, his reelection prospects.</quote>I can't speak for everyone, but it's because I'm not trying to sell people on Biden. I will vote for literally anyone you put in front of me if they are less bad than Trump.Actual good people, actual moral people, understand harm mitigation and aren't going to look at the only two realistic options they have, recognize one is objectively far worse, and go "Why shouldn't I cut off my nose if the other side isn't doing anything to earn my vote beyond keeping my nose on my face? If I stay home and everyone loses their nose, maybe the voters will get angry and force the less bad side to be a good side! Hopefully not too many people will bleed out from their facial wound before that revolution happens! I am a good person who cares about everyone!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 04/08/24 7:36:09 PM #100:	ButteryMales posted... Someone could say That someone would be ignorant at best, and an utter fool at worse. Republican politicians literally want to bomb Palestine. Not voting against that is saying that you're fine with that happening. Because what other reason could you have for not voting against genocide? darkace77450 posted... This is a really stupid argument. Not for the bad faith they're using it on. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) <cite>Umbreon posted [p:979810137] in Biden Camp... [t:80742375]...</cite> <quote>ButteryMales posted... </cite><quote>Someone could say</quote>That someone would be ignorant at best, and an utter fool at worse. Republican politicians literally want to bomb Palestine. Not voting against that is saying that you're fine with that happening.Because what other reason could you have for not voting against genocide?darkace77450 posted... </cite><quote>This is a really stupid argument.</quote>Not for the bad faith they're using it on. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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