Current Events > Centrists are a... unique people.

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Ultimately people, centrists only have one thing in mind, and that is their own physical and moral wellbeing. They will bloviate about how "BoTh SiDeS" are bad, meanwhile the Left has funded infrastructure, canceled student loans, etc. Meanwhile the Right has a literal written plan to completely strip the United States and it's people of their civic power.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025

They want to sit on their high horse, a throne of LGBT, Palestinian, and minority corpses because they don't actually care about the issues they claim to care for. All they want to do is feel like they're taking a moral stance, everyone else around them be damned. They have no stance other than the one that makes them feel superior to everyone else.

They do not care about Gaza if they abstain, they understand that Trump is worse, but have decided that they would rather risk the safety of millions for their moral dessert. Trump will never end the war in Gaza. Biden is facing rising pressures every single day. Any reasonable person would take the person that is being and can be talked out of genocide in our "First Past the Post" sytem, as opposed to the person that wants and is actively perpetuating authoritarian rhetoric, and you guessed it, wants extra genocide.

And if it's about their track record, well, just look above. Conservatives have no plan other than a complete and total Christofascist takeover.

They are abhorrent, they are unreasonable, and they are unable to exercise critical thinking.

It's the case every. Single. Time.

Thanks for coming to my TedTalk

Please no more

I'm offended that you're still calling them "people", tbh.

Democrats are the centrists.

Oh wow another person melting down over centrists, didn't see that coming

1337toothbrush posted...

Democrats are the centrists.

And then John was a zombie.

1337toothbrush posted...

Democrats are the centrists.

If, by centrists, you mean center right, yeah

Wouldn't being centrist be about policy preferences? This sounds more like idealism vs realism - people who won't vote for the best realistic option because their ideal candidate doesn't exist or is in some irrelevant party.

Do centrists have any real beliefs or positions? Seems like it's just a "don't rock the boat" type of stance.

Bokothechoco2 posted...

Wouldn't being centrist be about policy preferences? This sounds more like idealism vs realism - people who won't vote for the best realistic option because their ideal candidate doesn't exist or is in some irrelevant party.

It depends. In a left<->right on the political spectrum sort of way it would be the middle point in extreme anarchy (far left) and extreme authority (far right). In that one you are correct: it is about policy preferences. In a pop culture sense it just means someone that is extremely far-right, but doesn't like the label of "Republican." In that one you are wrong: it's not really about a particular position so much as a desire to pontificate about how extremely smart they obviously are because they have no actual practiced stances that they are willing to disclose.

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LightningAce11 posted...

Do centrists have any real beliefs or positions? Seems like it's just a "don't rock the boat" type of stance.

It's possible to be a centrist on a few positions where you could argue that it's a difference of moral or ethical outlook, like I for instance do believe in ranked choice voting, social democracy, & voting for & voting out those who do not serve the people.

But I also believe that in our current system, without going too far, there are people in our current political system that would be better off dead & gone entirely. Some will not like that & will bellow that all people can be held responsible by the legal system, but it has flaws like any system & a lot of times I think about how a system doesn't always punish the right people quick enough. But I have to maintain a "centrist" position on that because I don't want to rock the boat, like the person who rightfully tried to shoot Steve Scalise years ago, but only popped him in the ass once I think.

Kinda like that

Bokothechoco2 posted...

Wouldn't being centrist be about policy preferences? This sounds more like idealism vs realism - people who won't vote for the best realistic option because their ideal candidate doesn't exist or is in some irrelevant party.

So, everything is relative, right - and by American politics, any that IS NOT Hitler, is pretty much "the left". Meanwhile, anything that would ACTUALLY represent "the left" is literally communism and will never happen.

Meanwhile - in France, the "bullshit country that pisses itself at the very thought of confrontation", they ACTUALLY RIOT at the slightest tax increase on fuel, Paris goes up in flames.

It's pretty easy to be a centrist when your primary source of info is any given headline or 30 second snippet off twitter.

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Remember folks, fall in line and close minded people like this will treat you nice!

There is no "true center" in the current political environment. A person who never endorses anyone or anything, or expresses their opinion on any issue, is not opposing the christo-fascists.

Yeah, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say quoting Darth Vader probably isn't the best way to represent a political group, fellas

Centerists, as seen on the internet, are either cowards that don't want to admit their true beliefs or cowards that think neutrality isn't picking a side when it comes to standing up against tyrants.

Here's how Hillary can still win.

mistymermaid posted...

There is no "true center" in the current political environment. A person who never endorses anyone or anything, or expresses their opinion on any issue, is not opposing the christo-fascists.

It would certainly be possible to be "true center" by American politics, but it would probably look very different than what most people imagine - because most people don't understand the actual nature of the American political divide.

The media portrays a right and a left, but, that scale is really more like "slightly right" to "far right", with no left at all being represented. Anytime in American politcs than leftist ideas get represented, it's mostly by morons, and is construed to be absolute crazy talk. (ie the Green New Deal and AoC)

BignutzisBack posted...

Oh wow another person melting down over centrists, didn't see that coming

I'm sorry I care about people

Jerry_Hellyeah posted...

Yeah, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say quoting Darth Vader probably isn't the best way to represent a political group, fellas

I have never seen a Star Wars movie with Darth Vader in it. I did play old school Battlefront 2 though does that count?

nekrodev posted...

It would certainly be possible to be "true center" by American politics, but it would probably look very different than what most people imagine - because most people don't understand the actual nature of the American political divide.

The media portrays a right and a left, but, that scale is really more like "slightly right" to "far right", with no left at all being represented. Anytime in American politcs than leftist ideas get represented, it's mostly by morons, and is construed to be absolute crazy talk. (ie the Green New Deal and AoC)

Anything genuinely leftist in America is "Commuism" or "Socialism". We don't know what those are but they sound scary so they must be bad!

(Because we're deeply uneducated)

Hey, TC, could you make an interesting topic instead of this one? Thanks, man. I appreciate it.

nekrodev posted...

It would certainly be possible to be "true center" by American politics, but it would probably look very different than what most people imagine - because most people don't understand the actual nature of the American political divide.

The media portrays a right and a left, but, that scale is really more like "slightly right" to "far right", with no left at all being represented. Anytime in American politcs than leftist ideas get represented, it's mostly by morons, and is construed to be absolute crazy talk. (ie the Green New Deal and AoC)

I'm not going to pretend progress is quick or easy. Greed and social hierarchy are so entrenched in society, it creates a considerable barrier to achieving a status quo of the Green New Deal variety.

But quitters deserve nothing. I resent those who complain improving the world will take too long.

mistymermaid posted...

But quitters deserve nothing. I resent those who complain improving the world will take too long.

It's not like there's climate change putting a time limit on things.

mistymermaid posted...

I'm not going to pretend progress is quick or easy. Greed and social hierarchy are so entrenched in society, it creates a considerable barrier to achieving a status quo of the Green New Deal variety.

But quitters deserve nothing. I resent those who complain improving the world will take too long.

And, I can assure you, many of us resent those who continue to participate in the bullshit that is the American political system. Voting for Trump vs Biden over and over, pretending like it's the end of the world is simultaneously fucking hilarious and depressing.

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SaikyoStyle posted...

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Yup. Its not just cowardice, it's posing.

or maybe

they just like policies from all over the place and so don't identify with either one or the other?

Lmao at the steamy the idea of centrists makes people

xGhostchantx posted...

or maybe

they just like policies from all over the place and so don't identify with either one or the other?

I have always assumed thats how it works? Or is it just gamefaqs users that think they're fence sitting neutral parties? Doesnt really make sense that way.

deoxxys posted...

I have always assumed thats how it works? Or is it just gamefaqs users that think they're fence sitting neutral parties? Doesnt really make sense that way.

it's the effects of terminally online political obsession. mostly twitter.

Damn those people for having principles that don't align with my purposes, yet are not so far off that I can demonize them as direct opposition! They need to join my strict 'us or them' paradigm, so I don't have to think about possible other perspectives! Nuance? Pfeh! Black and white thinking is all you need!

Do centrists, defined as they are online, actually exist in any meaningful way outside of the internet?

A key aspect to politics in action is compromise.

Trying to keep things as a walled garden is laughable, most online chat does not have much value.

i used to be fairly neutral until 2016. a certain someone empowered and encouraged his side to show their truths, and that side has openly revealed itself to just be cruel and fueled by hatred for certain groups. the party of hate who is stripping away freedoms and wants to turn the nation into a puritan authoritarian regime under a leader who isn't shy about how he wants to be a dictator, spitting in the face of democracy.

deoxxys posted...

I have always assumed thats how it works? Or is it just gamefaqs users that think they're fence sitting neutral parties? Doesnt really make sense that way.

It is, but admitting that means you can't just dismiss them with silly memes about compromising with the KKK.

That's a much kinder way of putting it than I would