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LeoRavus 03/30/24 11:44:55 PM #1:	When describing someone's great attributes, 'hard working' is often thrown in. What does that mean and why is it good? Does it make someone better than someone who's not hard working? --- This is where cool people write stuff. <cite>LeoRavus posted [p:979652561] in Is "hard w... [t:80735066]...</cite> <quote>When describing someone's great attributes, 'hard working' is often thrown in.What does that mean and why is it good? Does it make someone better than someone who's not hard working? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dakimakura 03/30/24 11:46:57 PM #2:	sure --- Bees <cite>Dakimakura posted [p:979652587] in Is "hard w... [t:80735066]...</cite> <quote>sure </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thermador446 03/30/24 11:49:03 PM #3:	No, RDR2 had a side mission about a "hard working" runaway slave catcher. --- "While you were wasting your time castrating a priceless antique, I was systematically feeding babies to hungry mutated puppies!" -The Monarch <cite>Thermador446 posted [p:979652618] in Is "hard w... [t:80735066]...</cite> <quote>No, RDR2 had a side mission about a "hard working" runaway slave catcher. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SpawnShadow 03/30/24 11:49:17 PM #4:	It means you're willing to put up with way more work than you reasonably should, which is a plus for the bosses as it means they can pay one person to do the work of several people until you eventually burn out and get replaced. <cite>SpawnShadow posted [p:979652619] in Is "hard w... [t:80735066]...</cite> <quote>It means you're willing to put up with way more work than you reasonably should, which is a plus for the bosses as it means they can pay one person to do the work of several people until you eventually burn out and get replaced.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeoRavus 03/31/24 6:34:01 AM #5:	SpawnShadow posted... It means you're willing to put up with way more work than you reasonably should, which is a plus for the bosses as it means they can pay one person to do the work of several people until you eventually burn out and get replaced. I think at one time "hard working" meant something. "Good ole Festus was a hard working man. He plowed his fields from sunup till sundown to feed his 8 children." Work isn't anything like that now for most people. It's about slaving away for some corporation making them rich. And the work itself isn't hard physically unless you're doing construction or something. --- This is where cool people write stuff. <cite>LeoRavus posted [p:979656014] in Is "hard w... [t:80735066]...</cite> <quote>SpawnShadow posted... </cite><quote>It means you're willing to put up with way more work than you reasonably should, which is a plus for the bosses as it means they can pay one person to do the work of several people until you eventually burn out and get replaced.</quote>I think at one time "hard working" meant something. "Good ole Festus was a hard working man. He plowed his fields from sunup till sundown to feed his 8 children."Work isn't anything like that now for most people. It's about slaving away for some corporation making them rich. And the work itself isn't hard physically unless you're doing construction or something. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_____Cait 03/31/24 6:57:04 AM #7:	Situational, like most things. --- ORAS secret base: http://imgur.com/V9nAVrd 3DS friend code: 0173-1465-1236 <cite>_____Cait posted [p:979656123] in Is "hard w... [t:80735066]...</cite> <quote>Situational, like most things. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vivaldi7 03/31/24 7:06:05 AM #8:	Could just be harmless melodrama...used by just about everyone at some point... Or it could be that dog whistle used by certain branches of a certain religion....like a cryptic PING signal... Trouble is you just can't tell for sure right there, right then... --- --- "Saxon = joke account - I might put that in my sig." - MrXbox360_2012 <cite>Vivaldi7 posted [p:979656177] in Is "hard w... [t:80735066]...</cite> <quote>Could just be harmless melodrama...used by just about everyone at some point...Or it could be that dog whistle used by certain branches of a certain religion....like a cryptic PING signal...Trouble is you just can't tell for sure right there, right then... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jiek_Fafn 03/31/24 7:07:55 AM #9:	You can often brute force the solution to problems if you don't know how to solve them in a better way. Either way, you effectively completed your task. So it's all the same --- I don't believe in belts. There should be no ranking system for toughness. <cite>Jiek_Fafn posted [p:979656186] in Is "hard w... [t:80735066]...</cite> <quote>You can often brute force the solution to problems if you don't know how to solve them in a better way. Either way, you effectively completed your task. So it's all the same </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkDaLunatic 03/31/24 7:15:49 AM #10:	The problem is that being "hard working" is a trait usually attributed to people who sit in offices answering phone calls and emails for nine hours a day instead of eight hours a day. Everyone describes themselves as hard working though, from the bottom to the top. Here's the thing. We don't really have metrics for this in the white collar world. What makes someone a "hard worker" is just that they describe themselves as such. It's quantifiable, but we do not quantify it. Everyone is a hard worker if they say they are. Meanwhile physical laborers have to actually earn the moniker. If you work a physically demanding job, such as transmission rebuilding, and you absolutely slam all day to keep up with the workload, but then you take an extra five minutes on your break or only work your expected shift your boss is going to call you lazy. Remember, he came in an hour early and didn't take his breaks today as he answered calls and emails. He worked harder. So, tl;dr it's horseshit. --- There's a time and place for everything... but not now. <cite>LinkDaLunatic posted [p:979656240] in Is "hard w... [t:80735066]...</cite> <quote>The problem is that being "hard working" is a trait usually attributed to people who sit in offices answering phone calls and emails for nine hours a day instead of eight hours a day.Everyone describes themselves as hard working though, from the bottom to the top. Here's the thing.We don't really have metrics for this in the white collar world. What makes someone a "hard worker" is just that they describe themselves as such. It's quantifiable, but we do not quantify it. Everyone is a hard worker if they say they are.Meanwhile physical laborers have to actually earn the moniker. If you work a physically demanding job, such as transmission rebuilding, and you absolutely slam all day to keep up with the workload, but then you take an extra five minutes on your break or only work your expected shift your boss is going to call you lazy. Remember, he came in an hour early and didn't take his breaks today as he answered calls and emails. He worked harder.So, tl;dr it's horseshit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ricemills 03/31/24 7:23:41 AM #11:	Yes actually. At least in the eye of employers. A smart worker that done the work in 4 hours and taking the rest 4 hours to rest will be seen worse than someone who did 8 hours of "hard" working. And don't forget there's still assholes that thinks 40 hours of work are sign of lazy employee. --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html <cite>Ricemills posted [p:979656290] in Is "hard w... [t:80735066]...</cite> <quote>Yes actually. At least in the eye of employers.A smart worker that done the work in 4 hours and taking the rest 4 hours to rest will be seen worse than someone who did 8 hours of "hard" working. And don't forget there's still assholes that thinks 40 hours of work are sign of lazy employee. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 03/31/24 8:23:59 AM #12:	Calvinist bullshit. --- Putin delenda est <cite>brestugo posted [p:979656706] in Is "hard w... [t:80735066]...</cite> <quote>Calvinist bullshit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
W_S_C_M 03/31/24 9:09:49 AM #13:	It can be as long as it doesn't pertain to being a corporate slave. But working to provide for your family and putting them first for safety and comfort is admirable --- Peacefully non-compliant/non-conformist <cite>W_S_C_M posted [p:979657055] in Is "hard w... [t:80735066]...</cite> <quote>It can be as long as it doesn't pertain to being a corporate slave. But working to provide for your family and putting them first for safety and comfort is admirable </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Notti 04/03/24 5:52:51 AM #14:	Hard working for yourself or family is admirable. For a boss that only sees you as a disposable cog? Not so much. --- http://m.youtube.com/TheYoungTurks/videos Bernie>Biden>poo>Trump http://RightWingWatch.org http://reddit.com/r/BreadTube http://fb.me/OccupyDemocrats <cite>Notti posted [p:979705801] in Is "hard w... [t:80735066]...</cite> <quote>Hard working for yourself or family is admirable. For a boss that only sees you as a disposable cog? Not so much. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sufferedphoenix 04/03/24 6:00:43 AM #15:	Depends on perspective I guess. Like a CO worker of mine at this new job told the supervisor he liked working with me cause I actually work as compared to another co worker who is lazy as fuck. He appreciates that he knows he won't have to pick up any slack when it's me he's working with. Meanwhile you could have someone hardworking but their kids/spouse wishing they where home more. --- I put my heart and soul into my work and I fear I have lost my mind in the process <cite>Sufferedphoenix posted [p:979705844] in Is "hard w... [t:80735066]...</cite> <quote>Depends on perspective I guess. Like a CO worker of mine at this new job told the supervisor he liked working with me cause I actually work as compared to another co worker who is lazy as fuck. He appreciates that he knows he won't have to pick up any slack when it's me he's working with. Meanwhile you could have someone hardworking but their kids/spouse wishing they where home more. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BiggCoolDaddy 04/03/24 6:03:18 AM #16:	It depends on the work, dude. Like Cait and Notti said. Like working your ass off without getting compensated? That's crazy. You have to get paid what you are worth. But in general, being a hard working person? Awesome trait. Are you more likely to get ahead in life that way? Absolutely. <cite>BiggCoolDaddy posted [p:979705862] in Is "hard w... [t:80735066]...</cite> <quote>It depends on the work, dude. Like Cait and Notti said. Like working your ass off without getting compensated? That's crazy. You have to get paid what you are worth. But in general, being a hard working person? Awesome trait. Are you more likely to get ahead in life that way? Absolutely. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Karovorak 04/03/24 6:08:42 AM #17:	As it is with most things, it's about moderation. There is "hard working" and "working too hard". --- Planning is the process of replacing chance with error. <cite>Karovorak posted [p:979705891] in Is "hard w... [t:80735066]...</cite> <quote>As it is with most things, it's about moderation. There is "hard working" and "working too hard". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 04/03/24 6:09:00 AM #18:	white collar workers can be hard workers as well. Its harder for an observer to know without context. But even if you sit at your desk for 8 hours, not actually doing anything other than thinking on a solution to a problem, that can be hard work <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:979705894] in Is "hard w... [t:80735066]...</cite> <quote>white collar workers can be hard workers as well. Its harder for an observer to know without context. But even if you sit at your desk for 8 hours, not actually doing anything other than thinking on a solution to a problem, that can be hard work </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
haarlem1982 04/03/24 6:20:50 AM #19:	Work smart not hard --- There is no need for gulags for those that consent to their own chains - Thomas Williams <cite>haarlem1982 posted [p:979705969] in Is "hard w... [t:80735066]...</cite> <quote>Work smart not hard </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
projectpat72988 04/03/24 6:24:08 AM #20:	If you work for yourself. If you work for someone else, probably not. <cite>projectpat72988 posted [p:979705990] in Is "hard w... [t:80735066]...</cite> <quote>If you work for yourself. If you work for someone else, probably not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ninjaman44 04/03/24 12:50:38 PM #21:	LinkDaLunatic posted... Meanwhile physical laborers have to actually earn the moniker. If you work a physically demanding job, such as transmission rebuilding, and you absolutely slam all day to keep up with the workload, but then you take an extra five minutes on your break or only work your expected shift your boss is going to call you lazy. Remember, he came in an hour early and didn't take his breaks today as he answered calls and emails. He worked harder. I fucking hate people like this. My supervisor is like this and called me lazy because I didn't want to work any more mandatory overtime. We were told on a Thursday afternoon that we'd have to work that Saturday and Sunday. I wound up having to cancel my plans for the weekend. <cite>ninjaman44 posted [p:979710356] in Is "hard w... [t:80735066]...</cite> <quote>LinkDaLunatic posted... </cite><quote>Meanwhile physical laborers have to actually earn the moniker. If you work a physically demanding job, such as transmission rebuilding, and you absolutely slam all day to keep up with the workload, but then you take an extra five minutes on your break or only work your expected shift your boss is going to call you lazy. Remember, he came in an hour early and didn't take his breaks today as he answered calls and emails. He worked harder.</quote>I fucking hate people like this. My supervisor is like this and called me lazy because I didn't want to work any more mandatory overtime. We were told on a Thursday afternoon that we'd have to work that Saturday and Sunday. I wound up having to cancel my plans for the weekend. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamer167 04/03/24 12:56:38 PM #22:	Depends on how you decide to interpret the term and the context of the job, I think in most cases its a good trait. <cite>gamer167 posted [p:979710444] in Is "hard w... [t:80735066]...</cite> <quote>Depends on how you decide to interpret the term and the context of the job, I think in most cases its a good trait.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gatorsPENSbucs 04/03/24 12:58:12 PM #23:	Yup --- https://imgur.com/ZFt3WwT http://error1355.com/ce/gatorsPENSbucs.html https://i.imgur.com/pqMQZyw.gif <cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted [p:979710477] in Is "hard w... [t:80735066]...</cite> <quote>Yup </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sufferedphoenix 04/03/24 10:48:57 PM #24:	ninjaman44 posted... I fucking hate people like this. My supervisor is like this and called me lazy because I didn't want to work any more mandatory overtime. We were told on a Thursday afternoon that we'd have to work that Saturday and Sunday. I wound up having to cancel my plans for the weekend. Eh depends on how mentally taxing their job is. I've had super easy jobs when it came to physical labor that where very mentally taxing. I've had the opposite too. And then I've had some that where both. --- I put my heart and soul into my work and I fear I have lost my mind in the process <cite>Sufferedphoenix posted [p:979720173] in Is "hard w... [t:80735066]...</cite> <quote>ninjaman44 posted... </cite><quote>I fucking hate people like this. My supervisor is like this and called me lazy because I didn't want to work any more mandatory overtime. We were told on a Thursday afternoon that we'd have to work that Saturday and Sunday. I wound up having to cancel my plans for the weekend.</quote>Eh depends on how mentally taxing their job is. I've had super easy jobs when it came to physical labor that where very mentally taxing. I've had the opposite too. And then I've had some that where both. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mew 04/04/24 12:29:56 AM #25:	SpawnShadow posted... It means you're willing to put up with way more work than you reasonably should, which is a plus for the bosses as it means they can pay one person to do the work of several people until you eventually burn out and get replaced. --- https://iili.io/J2AP3an.gif <cite>Mew posted [p:979721563] in Is "hard w... [t:80735066]...</cite> <quote>SpawnShadow posted... </cite><quote>It means you're willing to put up with way more work than you reasonably should, which is a plus for the bosses as it means they can pay one person to do the work of several people until you eventually burn out and get replaced.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PesticideDream 04/04/24 2:11:15 AM #26:	In my experience after years and years of working, it's better to be reliable and consistent in your work (not the best but not the worst) and have leadership and teamwork skills. The balls-to-the-wall hard workers usually get abused by management to do everything and eventually all burn-out and become extremely bitter, and almost never become promoted because you don't want to move your most productive worker to a spot that supervises and doesn't produce. <cite>PesticideDream posted [p:979722445] in Is "hard w... [t:80735066]...</cite> <quote>In my experience after years and years of working, it's better to be reliable and consistent in your work (not the best but not the worst) and have leadership and teamwork skills. The balls-to-the-wall hard workers usually get abused by management to do everything and eventually all burn-out and become extremely bitter, and almost never become promoted because you don't want to move your most productive worker to a spot that supervises and doesn't produce. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FL81 04/04/24 2:16:41 AM #27:	yes --- https://i.imgur.com/TGkNCva.gif https://i.imgur.com/8mWCvA4.gif <cite>FL81 posted [p:979722477] in Is "hard w... [t:80735066]...</cite> <quote>yes </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sufferedphoenix 04/04/24 2:28:17 AM #28:	PesticideDream posted... In my experience after years and years of working, it's better to be reliable and consistent in your work (not the best but not the worst) and have leadership and teamwork skills. The balls-to-the-wall hard workers usually get abused by management to do everything and eventually all burn-out and become extremely bitter, and almost never become promoted because you don't want to move your most productive worker to a spot that supervises and doesn't produce. Just made me remember even though I'd apply for promotion part of me didn't want it cause I knew certain things just wouldn't get done right without me doing it myself --- I put my heart and soul into my work and I fear I have lost my mind in the process <cite>Sufferedphoenix posted [p:979722570] in Is "hard w... [t:80735066]...</cite> <quote>PesticideDream posted... </cite><quote>In my experience after years and years of working, it's better to be reliable and consistent in your work (not the best but not the worst) and have leadership and teamwork skills. The balls-to-the-wall hard workers usually get abused by management to do everything and eventually all burn-out and become extremely bitter, and almost never become promoted because you don't want to move your most productive worker to a spot that supervises and doesn't produce.</quote>Just made me remember even though I'd apply for promotion part of me didn't want it cause I knew certain things just wouldn't get done right without me doing it myself </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zwijn 04/04/24 2:30:20 AM #29:	There is a difference between working hard as in taking your job serious and working hard as my job is all I do and hobbies are non-productive. The latter is cringe and a reason why some hyper capitalist societies like the US, The Netherlands and South Korea are soulless. <cite>Zwijn posted [p:979722582] in Is "hard w... [t:80735066]...</cite> <quote>There is a difference between working hard as in taking your job serious and working hard as my job is all I do and hobbies are non-productive. The latter is cringe and a reason why some hyper capitalist societies like the US, The Netherlands and South Korea are soulless.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sufferedphoenix 04/04/24 2:40:10 AM #30:	Zwijn posted... There is a difference between working hard as in taking your job serious and working hard as my job is all I do and hobbies are non-productive. The latter is cringe and a reason why some hyper capitalist societies like the US, The Netherlands and South Korea are soulless. Unfortunately the latter was damn near me at my last job. But I was physically at my job site 12 and a half hours a day and typically 6 days a week. Didn't have time for much else outside maybe a hour or two of gaming --- I put my heart and soul into my work and I fear I have lost my mind in the process <cite>Sufferedphoenix posted [p:979722643] in Is "hard w... [t:80735066]...</cite> <quote>Zwijn posted... </cite><quote>There is a difference between working hard as in taking your job serious and working hard as my job is all I do and hobbies are non-productive. The latter is cringe and a reason why some hyper capitalist societies like the US, The Netherlands and South Korea are soulless.</quote>Unfortunately the latter was damn near me at my last job. But I was physically at my job site 12 and a half hours a day and typically 6 days a week. Didn't have time for much else outside maybe a hour or two of gaming </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
STEROLIZER 04/04/24 3:20:43 AM #31:	LeoRavus posted... What does that mean and why is it good? Does it make someone better than someone who's not hard working? Yea. Usually. Typically it is used as a benchmark adjacent to someone who is not only productive in relation to general society, but also someone who goes after and achieves their goals. A person whom thrives in the face of adversity is typically a better husband, father, and overall person than someone whowelldoesnt. <cite>STEROLIZER posted [p:979722877] in Is "hard w... [t:80735066]...</cite> <quote>LeoRavus posted... </cite><quote>What does that mean and why is it good? Does it make someone better than someone who's not hard working?</quote>Yea. Usually.Typically it is used as a benchmark adjacent to someone who is not only productive in relation to general society, but also someone who goes after and achieves their goals. A person whom thrives in the face of adversity is typically a better husband, father, and overall person than someone whowelldoesnt.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fenriswolf 04/04/24 3:32:58 AM #32:	It's generally a positive trait, but most employers want someone who is hardworking and UNQUESTIONING ie a doormat who won't complain to the unions when you cut their wages. --- Hello <cite>Fenriswolf posted [p:979722936] in Is "hard w... [t:80735066]...</cite> <quote>It's generally a positive trait, but most employers want someone who is hardworking and UNQUESTIONING ie a doormat who won't complain to the unions when you cut their wages. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
STEROLIZER 04/04/24 3:34:50 AM #33:	Fenriswolf posted... It's generally a positive trait, but most employers want someone who is hardworking and UNQUESTIONING ie a doormat who won't complain to the unions when you cut their wages. I mean, thats for shitty minimum wage jobs. In general once you get into salaried paying career orientated roles, being non-agreeable is way more conducive to success, and future job growth. <cite>STEROLIZER posted [p:979722948] in Is "hard w... [t:80735066]...</cite> <quote>Fenriswolf posted... </cite><quote>It's generally a positive trait, but most employers want someone who is hardworking and UNQUESTIONING ie a doormat who won't complain to the unions when you cut their wages.</quote>I mean, thats for shitty minimum wage jobs. In general once you get into salaried paying career orientated roles, being non-agreeable is way more conducive to success, and future job growth.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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