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DnDer
03/20/24 3:28:51 AM
#51:


BlueKat posted...
The fuck >_>

Watched for 14 seconds. Googled "Western Lensman."

Found exactly what you think you would.

Closed the window.

Fuckin' Elon Musk.

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deoxxys
03/20/24 4:08:25 AM
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But it doesnt make sense though, if you already were a skilled pilot whether or not you are a minority or woman shouldnt matter and you should have already been getting the job. And thats the point people are trying to highlight is if you are purposefully hiring based off race or sex then that means you arent hiring by merit.

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GranAures
03/20/24 4:12:58 AM
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Then maybe you or Elon can prove the standards are actually lowered instead of just feeling like they are because you saw an entire flight crew of minorities.

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xGhostchantx
03/20/24 4:21:14 AM
#54:


don't planes basically fly themselves these days anyway

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MNThunder
03/20/24 4:23:44 AM
#55:


deoxxys posted...
But it doesnt make sense though, if you already were a skilled pilot whether or not you are a minority or woman shouldnt matter and you should have already been getting the job. And thats the point people are trying to highlight is if you are purposefully hiring based off race or sex then that means you arent hiring by merit.

Hiring off of merit is a fantasy. The idea that the "best"person for a job will get hired is something that has never been true. The reality is that there rarely is ever a person who is clearly the best and instead hirings are based off of subjectivity.
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GranAures
03/20/24 4:27:08 AM
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And the funny thing is: the practices they cry about largely came about because the subjectivity they herald as merit "oddly" seemed to regularly pass over groups.

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JasonSehorn
03/20/24 4:36:45 AM
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the whole interview is out its fucking hilarious that he made Elon cry he is such a weak limp noodle personality wise he needs his yes men
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Shadow_Don
03/20/24 4:38:43 AM
#58:


Arcanine2009 posted...
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1770030227390914624

Geee i wonder if those twitter files dorks are going to report on this shit

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2Pacavelli
03/20/24 4:53:08 AM
#59:


That interview exposed Elon Musk hard, he actually looked very ignorant and of low intelligence.

The fact that he was so triggered he pulled Don Lemons show only looks bad on his part because it looks like he's mad that he embarrassed himself being ill prepared, fumbling basic questions and showing logical fallacies in that interview. So he takes it out on Don Lemon by pulling the show

And I'm not even a Don Lemon fan tbh
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JasonSehorn
03/20/24 4:54:02 AM
#60:


dudes on so many drugs he cant function
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DnDer
03/20/24 5:28:21 AM
#61:


deoxxys posted...
And thats the point people are trying to highlight is if you are purposefully hiring based off race or sex then that means you arent hiring by merit.

That's... not true.

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Dark_Arbron
03/20/24 6:18:09 AM
#62:


DnDer posted...
That's... not true.

I reread his post several times and isnt it? If youre hiring based on sex or race then that means youre hiring based on something other than merit (best person for the job). If you were hiring based on merit then sex or race wouldnt factor into it.

I feel like one or both of us might be misinterpreting something here.

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GranAures
03/20/24 6:23:43 AM
#63:


Dark_Arbron posted...
I reread his post several times and isnt it? If youre hiring based on sex or race then that means youre hiring based on something other than merit (best person for the job). If you were hiring based on merit then sex or race wouldnt factor into it.

I feel like one or both of us might be misinterpreting something here.
Being a diversity higher does not prove the standards were lowered despite Musk's "fears." Even then, true merit based hiring is a rarity, and yet nobody will wonder of a white dude met the standards.

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lolife67
03/20/24 6:31:11 AM
#64:


Dark_Arbron posted...
I reread his post several times and isnt it? If youre hiring based on sex or race then that means youre hiring based on something other than merit (best person for the job). If you were hiring based on merit then sex or race wouldnt factor into it.

I feel like one or both of us might be misinterpreting something here.
You and the other poster seem to be insinuating a minority can not ALSO meet the other qualifications for a position. Companies with DEI programs aren't hiring unqualified people just because they're a minority.
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Shadow_Don
03/20/24 6:35:34 AM
#65:


Dark_Arbron posted...
If youre hiring based on sex or race then that means youre hiring based on something other than merit

The problem you're having is assuming these hiring conditions are mutually exclusive. They aren't.

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Dark_Arbron
03/20/24 6:36:45 AM
#66:


lolife67 posted...
You and the other poster seem to be insinuating a minority can not ALSO meet the other qualifications for a position. Companies with DEI programs aren't hiring unqualified people just because they're a minority.

Im not insinuating anything, I just read his post in what was probably a vacuum.

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Dark_Arbron
03/20/24 6:38:07 AM
#67:


Shadow_Don posted...
The problem you're having is assuming these hiring conditions are mutually exclusive. They aren't.

I didnt say they were, I said that hiring a qualified candidate who is also a minority is merit-based because its not hiring them because theyre a minority. Not that I think many employers are doing that, I agree.

I think I must have quoted something out of context, so just disregard me here. Carry on.

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lolife67
03/20/24 6:39:41 AM
#68:


Dark_Arbron posted...
Im not insinuating anything, I just read his post in what was probably a vacuum.
You are assuming that if you don't think what he said is untrue. You may just not have actually thought it through.
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Dark_Arbron
03/20/24 6:41:26 AM
#69:


lolife67 posted...
You are assuming that if you don't think what he said is untrue. You may just not have actually thought it through.

Yes. I responded without likely knowing the full context. I havent even followed the link in the OP.

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Shadow_Don
03/20/24 6:52:48 AM
#70:


Dark_Arbron posted...
Yes. I responded without likely knowing the full context. I havent even followed the link in the OP.

Yea the issue is that like 99% of the time the people running with those arguments are just using it as an obvious cover for racism.

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Dark_Arbron
03/20/24 6:55:43 AM
#71:


Shadow_Don posted...
Yea the issue is that like 99% of the time the people running with those arguments are just using it as an obvious cover for racism.

If were talking about why are they hiring black people just because theyre black, thats not fair to hard working white people! then yes I definitely agree.

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Shadow_Don
03/20/24 7:00:16 AM
#72:


Dark_Arbron posted...
If were talking about why are they hiring black people just because theyre black, thats not fair to hard working white people! then yes I definitely agree.

With people like Elon and his simps its more like they immediately jump to the conclusion that the black engineer is a diversity hire without having any additional context.

The clear implication they are making is only white people are qualified.

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Dark_Arbron
03/20/24 7:01:35 AM
#73:


Shadow_Don posted...
With people like Elon and his simps its more like they immediately jump to the conclusion that the black engineer is a diversity hire without having any additional context.

The clear implication they are making is only white people are qualified.

Yeah, makes sense.
(that theyd assume that I mean)


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GranAures
03/20/24 7:05:07 AM
#74:


Dark_Arbron posted...
If were talking about why are they hiring black people just because theyre black, thats not fair to hard working white people! then yes I definitely agree.
That was kind of Elon's argument is the thing. It was "I don't hate them but we shouldn't lower standards for them" when the only proof of standards being "lowered" was who was hired.

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Shadow_Don
03/20/24 7:06:04 AM
#75:


GranAures posted...
That was kind of Elon's argument is the thing. It was "I don't hate them but we shouldn't lower standards for them" when the only proof of standards being "lowered" was who was hired.

Precisely

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Dark_Arbron
03/20/24 7:10:39 AM
#76:


GranAures posted...
That was kind of Elon's argument is the thing. It was "I don't hate them but we shouldn't lower standards for them" when the only proof of standards being "lowered" was who was hired.

Yep; that about tracks for Apartheid Clyde.

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GranAures
03/20/24 7:14:22 AM
#77:


Dark_Arbron posted...
Yep; that about tracks for Apartheid Clyde.
And the other user has some hella takes so I for one am done with giving him the benefit that he wasn't running in with a "what he really meant."

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BobanMarjanovic
03/20/24 7:17:22 AM
#78:


Elon musk is black

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Dark_Arbron
03/20/24 7:18:03 AM
#79:


GranAures posted...
And the other user has some hella takes so I for one am done with giving him the benefit that he wasn't running in with a "what he really meant."

I did find myself hesitant to agree with them since I recognised their name

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hockeybabe89
03/20/24 7:31:21 AM
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How long until they start bitching about the disabled getting jobs and "unfair" assistance to do those jobs?

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Dark_Arbron
03/20/24 7:32:58 AM
#81:


hockeybabe89 posted...
How long until they start bitching about the disabled getting jobs and "unfair" assistance to do those jobs?

Come to think of it, do people still bitch about maternal leave? Just kidding. Of course they do.

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darkace77450
03/20/24 1:00:37 PM
#82:


Arcanine2009 posted...
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1770030227390914624

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1519735033950470144
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GranAures
03/20/24 1:42:13 PM
#83:


Did Muskrat forget which party lost their mind over a black man being elected president in 08 and threw an insurrection over losing in 2020?

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