Current Events > Man, Jon Stewart is reeeaallllly not taking any of this shit anymore

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mustachedmystic posted...

Oh my god! Biden is old? So is Trump! At least Biden exercises. The closest Trump gets to a workout is when a hooker sucks him off.

Doubt that happens much, if at all. No sex worker would do such a thing with no guarantee of getting paid.

Too late. Should have gone this hard his first show back, instead of waiting several weeks when the hype of him returning has died down. He'll never live down that "both sides" argument, especially if Trump wins.

The more I think about it the more the Both Sides guy arguing "There's no point in Jon talking about stuff people have already heard about" is ridiculous.

Especially in defense of dedicating an entire show to "Joe Biden is old lol"

Dakimakura posted...

lol at the guy who ripped up the constitution after saying that is what the Democrats are doing.

Never saw that one before

Mark Levine has always wiped his ass with the Constitution.

How that walnut was ever allowed to argue in front of any SCOTUS boggles the mind.

lmfao This topic is wild wtf are ppl smoking

ClayGuida posted...

ButteryMales posted...

Biden is either not actively negotiating or just extremely shit at it. Biden is unconstitutionally bypassing congress to give weapons to Israel.

There's literally an imminent ceasefire that hamas has agreed to.

Thank you for the good news. Israel crossed Biden's redline by attacking an UNRWA food distribution centre in Rafah.

Yeah I had a feeling people wouldn't like Jon Stewart's "both sides" type of humor, but the difference I see is that he does it in good faith...or rather in a left/democrat leaning kind of way. He is always more harsher on conservative/republicans when it comes to his jokes and commentary.

gp1829 posted...

Jon has done plenty for the country and definitely cares about politics. Saying we could do better than an 81 year old is not gaslighting.

We cant do better than Biden. Hes the most experienced, respected, and successful politician we have. His experience and expertise in foreign policy is unmatched, as is his knowledge and experience with the presidency. There is not a single person alive more qualified to be our President.

ProfOaksAide posted...

We cant do better than Biden. Hes the most experienced, respected, and successful politician we have. His experience and expertise in foreign policy is unmatched, as is his knowledge and experience with the presidency. There is not a single person alive more qualified to be our President.

This is one kink people should shame.

Internet dialogue has become so unhinged that someone pointing out biden's age as a concern is considered by many to be dangerous right wing rhetoric

ButteryMales posted...

This is one kink people should shame.

Im not stopping you. By all means point out where Im wrong

ProfOaksAide posted...

Im not stopping you. By all means point out where Im wrong

ButteryMales posted...

Israel crossed Biden's redline by attacking an UNRWA food distribution centre in Rafah.

Fucking Reagan has a better track record at keeping Israel in line.

Jon Stewart, whether he acknowledges it or not, is an influential voice in American politics. He's not just some goofy comedian. People respect him. His opinions carry weight.

There was a lot of anticipation surrounding his return to The Daily Show. I think it's fair to say there were more eyes on that 1st show back than there had been for many years.

So what message did he choose to deliver? That both Joe Biden and Donald Trump suck, and are old, and it doesn't really matter which one wins because America loses. This completely dimishes the importance of the coming election, encourages voter apathy, low turnout, 3rd party voting, or write-in campaigns. ALL of which benefit Donald Trump.

There is a reason right wing sites like The Daily Mail and even Elon Musk praised this segment, and its not because "it was fair and balanced".

Maybe a few years from now, as millions of brown people are being deported, women are dying in back alleys trying to get basic healthcare, democrats are "falling out of windows," and Republicans are canceling future elections, Jon can remind us all about that time Joe Biden forgot a guy's name. From his jail cell.

Based on the 15 minute clip, I'm definitely glad I gave him some time to get around to the point. The first 5 or so minute clip I saw here from the first show since he came back made it look like he was playing into trends leading to apathetic voters due to his emphasis on Biden's age and the seemingly hopeless political landscape young demographics face in today's world. To be honest, he needs to be willing to make fun of prominent Democratic Party figures or people will quickly start calling him a liberal hack or say that he's being paid off by establishment Democrats. This around time he seems to be more grounded with his head on what should really be peoples' focus right now in this country.

ButteryMales posted...

Fucking Reagan has a better track record at keeping Israel in line.

So youre mad at Biden for doing exactly what you want, successfully negotiating cease fires, hostage exchanges, and aid distributionmultiple times

Are you sure youre not a bot?

ProfOaksAide posted...

So youre mad at Biden for doing exactly what you want, successfully negotiating cease fires, hostage exchanges, and aid distributionmultiple times

Are you sure youre not a bot?

Is that what you call Israel crossing Biden's redline by attacking an UNRWA food distribution centre in Rafah?

ButteryMales posted...

Is that what you call Israel crossing Biden's redline by attacking an UNRWA food distribution centre in Rafah?

I was talking about all of the previous cease fires, hostage releases, and humanitarian aid the Biden administration was vital in securing. I have no idea what youre talking about but its irrelevant to this specific discussion

ProfOaksAide posted...

I have no idea what youre talking about but its irrelevant to this specific discussion

That's his whole reason to live.

ProfOaksAide posted...

I have no idea what youre talking about

That's pretty obvious. You can ask me about what's confusing you in the wording. Do you not know what a red line is? What UNWRA is? What Rafah is?

ProfOaksAide posted...

but its irrelevant to this specific discussion

How would you know if it is relevant? You just said you have no idea about it.

The wording is not confusing. What it has to do with the Biden administration and the 2024 election is what is confusing. Youre free to elaborate

ProfOaksAide posted...

We cant do better than Biden. Hes the most experienced, respected, and successful politician we have. His experience and expertise in foreign policy is unmatched, as is his knowledge and experience with the presidency. There is not a single person alive more qualified to be our President.

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ProfOaksAide posted...

The wording is not confusing. What it has to do with the Biden administration and the 2024 election is what is confusing. Youre free to elaborate

A good negotiator wouldn't have an ally disrespectfully cross his red line to attack a food facility.

His first episode was brilliant because it highlighted a huge problem with public perception of Biden and Democrat messaging. A lot of people, not just right-wingers, are worried Biden is too old, and he doesn't have it anymore.

That segment was a warning shot to democrats that they need to do more than what they have been doing, more than what they did in 2016 and many other elections. It's not enough to say "at least he's not the other guy." That's not a winning strategy, and they can't take it for granted that the voters will show up for them. People want (and have a right) to feel excited about the person they're going to vote for.

Sure, part of that is not making a habit of running a guy in his 80s, but a much bigger part of that is not just talking about how Biden can still do it, but actually showing him doing it.

ClemStudebaker posted...

not just talking about how Biden can still do it, but actually showing him doing it.

You mean like when he clowned the entire Republican party several times over the course of one SotU address?

Like, a couple days ago?

pinky0926 posted...

Internet dialogue has become so unhinged that someone pointing out biden's age as a concern is considered by many to be dangerous right wing rhetoric

Given that both men are in the same age demographic, Biden's age isn't any more of a concern than Trump's.

With that in mind, we should stop talking about age and start talking about policy and progress. And how one guy platforms and is supported by fascist enablers. Because he's a fascist.

pinky0926 posted...

Internet dialogue has become so unhinged that someone pointing out biden's age as a concern is considered by many to be dangerous right wing rhetoric

Its because of why theyre latching onto it, especially since it applies equally to Trump but theyre suspiciously quiet about that

DnDer posted...

Given that both men are in the same age demographic, Biden's age isn't any more of a concern than Trump's.

With that in mind, we should stop talking about age and start talking about policy and progress. And how one guy platforms and is supported by fascist enablers. Because he's a fascist.

There is a reason the right want to keep focusing on Biden, and only Biden's, age. Sadly, people on the left are all to willing to go along with their very obvious bullshit.

Heineken14 posted...

There is a reason the right want to keep focusing on Biden, and only Biden's, age. Sadly, people on the left are all to willing to go along with their very obvious bullshit.

Yeah Trump physically doesnt look as old as Biden, but mentally hes so much worse.
He was accused of dementia 6 years ago or so and its gotten so much worse when he speaks forgetting everything

Heineken14 posted...

There is a reason the right want to keep focusing on Biden, and only Biden's, age. Sadly, people on the left are all to willing to go along with their very obvious bullshit.

I think both their ages are a concern. Biden seems to have spells where he seems lost. Trump has entered old angry man who give 0 fucks anymore. The latter being more problematic cause he has a cult following. With Biden I can atleast hope he has advisors that are good and pretty much take over when he's not at his best

I really believe after a certain age they should be required to go through annual check ups to make sure they are still mentally fit for such a position. That or just make a age cap cause personally I don't trust people who ain't gonna be around much longer to make choices in the best interest for those of us who will be around for a long time.

Punished_Blinx posted...

That the difference is that people can criticize Biden instead of blindly following like what conservatives do for Trump.

When the criticisms are disingenuous, that should be called out.

ClemStudebaker posted...

That segment was a warning shot to democrats that they need to do more than what they have been doing, more than what they did in 2016 and many other elections.

"The next nine months or so ... they're gonna suck. ... And it's all going to make you feel like Tuesday, November 5th is the only day that matters and that day does matter. But, man, November 6th ain't nothing to sneeze at, or November 7th. If your guy loses, bad things might happen but the country is not over. And if your guy wins, the country is in no way saved.

... So the good news is, I'm not saying you don't have to worry about who wins the election. I'm saying you have to worry about every day before it. Although on the plus side I'm told that at some point the sun will run out of hydrogen."

And then in a later episode:

"Now we've had our fun dancing around the former President's rather eccentric interpretations of our country's founding document. May I offer you something more explicit? [Trump] 'I only want to be a dictator for one day.' [Stewart] Just so you know, that is how it starts. I'm not saying anybody has to do the arm salute. ... He is advocating for complete and total presidential immunity. His words not mine. That is monarchy shit. And it's your right to support it, but just do me a favor for historical accuracy. Next time you wanna dress up at rallies, wear the right colored coats."

The problem between the closing monologues of these two episodes is that Stewart acknowledges that a victory for Trump is in fact an existential threat to what actually makes the United States the United States. So to say that if Biden ("your guy") loses and somehow, the country will endure...is...a bit of a miss. Clearly he understands the scale of the threat, though. (As an aside, anyone familiar with Stewart's work on The Problem With Jon Stewart or his advocacy in general knows he's far from the alt right.) But the core of his message from his first episode back is not that the Democratic party needs to do more - it does, don't get me wrong. But the message is to urge voters to slough off their complacency and get active.

It's the same message activists have been urging constantly.

Kimberly posted...

But the core of his message from his first episode back is not that the Democratic party needs to do more ... But the message is to urge voters to slough off their complacency and get active.

Why not both? He literally said the Democratic Party needs to record and show Biden being an effective leader.

pinky0926 posted...

Internet dialogue has become so unhinged that someone pointing out biden's age as a concern is considered by many to be dangerous right wing rhetoric

But that isn't what happens. They say one candidate is old and the other candidate wants to be a dictator while ignoring he is only 3 years younger. Then follow it up with the idea those are equal reasons why neither candidate is better than the other.

ButteryMales posted...

Why not both? He literally said the Democratic Party needs to record and show Biden being an effective leader.

He did, but the focus of the entire piece was demonstrating to voters why they needed to be active. That includes showing how the Democratic party isn't working effectively on behalf of their constituents.

When did Stewart start doing The Daily Show again?

LonelyStoner posted...

When did Stewart start doing The Daily Show again?

About a month ago. He hosts the show on Mondays and then a different one of their regular team hosts the show the rest of the week.