Current Events > SF voted to drug test welfare recipients and allow 8th grade algebra again

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A certain small but loud section of S.F. is punching air right now

what

Drug testing people getting government handouts: proved ineffective and not cost saving at all.

San Fran:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/6040f0f6.jpg

wait...so when their 8th graders ask "when are we ever gonna use this?" it's actually a legit question because algebra was illegal in san francisco?
wtf lmao

voldothegr8 posted...

Drug testing people getting government handouts: proved ineffective and not cost saving at all.

San Fran:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/6040f0f6.jpg

And yet, SF will earn absolutely no love from the right-wing for this blatant act of appeasement. To the GQP, everyone living there will always be Satanic pedo commies, no matter how much it does things they agree with, and that city will be among the first targets for their genocidal crusade against LGBTQ+ people the second they're back in power.

So discriminatory, ineffective populism is good because leftists don't like it?

BucketCat posted...

wait...so when their 8th graders ask "when are we ever gonna use this?" it's actually a legit question because algebra was illegal in san francisco?
wtf lmao

It's not illegal, SF public schools track it for 9th grade. They're currently discussing adding it back as an 8th grade option. This is a nonbinding resolution to signal support for it and get the school board to move their butts.

The drug testing thing is stupid and will only cost money. If I was trying to be really really charitable, I'd say that due to people generally being a bit... selfish and sensitive to feeling entitled to the life of welfare recipients, this drug screening requirement might make them more willing to have their (now increased and inefficient) tax dollars used for welfare.

Still stupid but... Optics optics optics I guess

Man some of you guys really have the brain worms. It isn't the GOP boogeyman pushing this stuff. It is the rich tech community people funding and pushing this stuff through. And remember the voters the residents of San Francisco approved this so how does this have anything to do with appeasing Republicans or the GOP in anyway?

animebop posted...

It's not illegal, SF public schools track it for 9th grade. They're currently discussing adding it back as an 8th grade option. This is a nonbinding resolution to signal support for it and get the school board to move their butts.

wtf for real? in my (shitty, ohio) district it's taught in 6th grade normally and starts in 4th grade for advanced students. iirc the standard 7th grade course is geometry and 8th is algebra 2

I have no clue why any side would support algebra not being allowed for anyone (is this some kind of insane 'algebra? More like Al Jazeera!' thing?).

Testing welfare recipients for drugs? Oh great, more 'deserving' vs 'undeserving' poor bullshit again. Won't solve any of the problems that people pretend to care about. More likely make them far worse.

fellas is it racist to offer algebra to junior high students

Quicksilver posted...

Man some of you guys really have the brain worms. It isn't the GOP boogeyman pushing this stuff. It is the rich tech community people funding and pushing this stuff through. And remember the voters the residents of San Francisco approved this so how does this have anything to do with appeasing Republicans or the GOP in anyway?

The two party system has broken their brains into believing that because Republicans are conservative that means Democrats are liberal. When in reality Democrats are conservative and Republicans are fascists.

What's wrong with 8th grade algebra?

I'd bet good money at least one politician there is in cahoots with the drug testing agencies and profits from this. It's usually the case.

https://sfstandard.com/2024/02/18/san-francisco-schools-algebra/

Oh shit, they really did just drop algebra like that, for the racial gap? Christ that's fucking stupid. They've fucked over so many kids.

Guide posted...

https://sfstandard.com/2024/02/18/san-francisco-schools-algebra/

Oh shit, they really did just drop algebra like that, for the racial gap? Christ that's fucking stupid. They've fucked over so many kids.

Not saying ir shouldn't be taught but I've never used it. I was told it was used in construction.... when I actually worked construction we just pulled out our tape measure and measured shit. Bossman was trying to figure something out with math once and by the time he got done I had already went up the ladder measured it and came back down.

Not saying I never used math in the line of work though just wasn't algebra.

Sufferedphoenix posted...

Not saying ir shouldn't be taught but I've never used it. I was told it was used in construction.... when I actually worked construction we just pulled out our tape measure and measured shit. Bossman was trying to figure something out with math once and by the time he got done I had already went up the ladder measured it and came back down.

Not saying I never used math in the line of work though just wasn't algebra.

Its more its preventing kids from low income areas to take Calculus which then puts them at a disadvantage in college which can lead to them dropping out of college altogether.

Rich kids can pay to take online math classes which can put them ahead in math. Poor students cannot do that and have to take whatever is offered at public school.

Also the drug test was for additional S.F. welfare money which some in the city said attracted people from outside the area to come to SF just to collect that check

Again? When did we stop teaching algebra in grade school? What the fuck have they been teaching middle school students?

Saying "I never use algebra" is pretty ridiculous

I use it all the time when percentages are involved, such as with sales or taxes or tip amounts.

We use algebra all the time without even thinking about it. Mathematical principles are all linked to the logic we use when understanding the world and making decisions.

CruelBuffalo posted...

Its more its preventing kids from low income areas to take Calculus which then puts them at a disadvantage in college which can lead to them dropping out of college altogether.

Rich kids can pay to take online math classes which can put them ahead in math. Poor students cannot do that and have to take whatever is offered at public school.

Also the drug test was for additional S.F. welfare money which some in the city said attracted people from outside the area to come to SF just to collect that check

Fair point.

But it would be literally impossible to drug test Elon for all the welfare he gets

Damn_Underscore posted...

Saying "I never use algebra" is pretty ridiculous

I use it all the time when percentages are involved, such as with sales or taxes or tip amounts.

This, its one thing to say something like Calculus isnt used everyday, but algebra is all over the place.

Also the reason for high school is to prove you can learn some basic shit like algebra, geometry, or trig. If you cant even put in the time to study and learn that easy stuff, I cant trust you at a basic job, you dont deserve to graduate.

masterbarf posted...

We use algebra all the time without even thinking about it. Mathematical principles are all linked to the logic we use when understanding the world and making decisions.

. Wonder why teachers can't explain this then. I just got answers like well construction uses it.

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Every semi political thread on CE has someone saying stuff like that. So no it's not just one person.