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darkace77450 03/01/24 4:28:17 PM #1: |
https://documents.house.mo.gov/billtracking/bills241/hlrbillspdf/5874H.01I.pdf A person commits the offense of contributing to social transition if the person is acting in his or her official capacity as a teacher or school counselor and the person provides support, regardless of whether the support is material, information, or other resources to a child regarding social transition.
Tier I sexual offenders, in addition to the requirements of subsections 1 to 4 of this section, shall report in person to the chief law enforcement official annually in the month of their birth to verify the information contained in their statement made pursuant to section 589.407. Tier I sexual offenders include:
So a teacher calling a student by their preferred pronoun will be charged with a felony. If convicted, they must register as sex offenders, which obviously means an end to their teaching career. And for posterity, I'll remind everyone that the American Medical Association, the American Academy of Pediatrics, and the American Psychological Association (i.e . the experts) all recommend gender affirming care for transgender children. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ScazarMeltex 03/01/24 4:31:59 PM #2: |
Nazis doing Nazi shit.
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Robot2600 03/01/24 4:32:06 PM #3: |
i know it fucking sucks but you cant get too upset about bills until they pass or you'll have a heart attack.
this shit is blatantly unconstitutional and also goes against title 9 of the civil rights act --- --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkace77450 03/01/24 4:34:49 PM #4: |
Robot2600 posted... i know it f***ing sucks but you cant get too upset about bills until they pass or you'll have a heart attack. You're not wrong, but you've got to remember that they even if defeated, they'll keep trying and they only need to succeed once to ruin people's lives. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LoZguy709 03/01/24 4:40:03 PM #5: |
Robot2600 posted... i know it fucking sucks but you cant get too upset about bills until they pass or you'll have a heart attack. Rarely will Missouri recognize constitutional rights of a protected class before the federal government forces it to. This seems pretty extreme of a penalty for simply not using the pronoun assigned to a student at birth so I'd hope it wouldn't get through or at least not in the current format, but I wouldn't be shocked if it did either. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dancedreamer 03/01/24 4:42:43 PM #6: |
I'm surprised.
Not that Missouri is transphobic trash. That Missouri still has teachers. I thought they outlawed them years ago. --- This isn't funny Dean, the voice says I'm almost out of minutes! ~Alexandra ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wackyteen 03/01/24 4:44:47 PM #7: |
darkace77450 posted...
class E felony.Losing your right to vote because you 'misgendered' somebody. Actually go fuck your useless fucking faces, fascist fuck faces. --- The name is wackyteen for a reason. Never doubt. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TMOG 03/01/24 4:45:50 PM #8: |
Robot2600 posted... i know it fucking sucks but you cant get too upset about bills until they pass or you'll have a heart attack.Yeah, let's not get upset about the things elected officials are trying to do, otherwise we might run the risk of being aware that they're shithead bigots and not vote for them. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HylianFox 03/01/24 4:46:51 PM #9: |
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/d9321792.jpg
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wackyteen 03/01/24 4:47:53 PM #10: |
TMOG posted...
Yeah, let's not get upset about the things elected officials are trying to do, otherwise we might run the risk of being aware that they're shithead bigots and not vote for them.And even if it is just pandering for votes, this kind of shit needs to be made known that it is not okay to even entertain --- The name is wackyteen for a reason. Never doubt. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Robot2600 03/01/24 4:49:09 PM #11: |
i didnt say dont get upset. i said don't get "too upset"
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GrandConjuraton 03/01/24 4:51:38 PM #12: |
ScazarMeltex posted...
Nazis doing Nazi shit. --- Can you wait another day? Wait another week? Wait another month? Wait another year? https://imgur.com/o21DN7r ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TMOG 03/01/24 4:51:43 PM #13: |
Robot2600 posted... i didnt say dont get upset. i said don't get "too upset"Okay, what's the appropriate amount of upset to be about politicians trying to permanently label somebody as a sex offender just for calling a trans girl "she"? Or the effect that this is going to have on the trans kids? Just so I know exactly how mad I'm allowed to be. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NightRender 03/01/24 4:51:57 PM #14: |
gender assumed by the individual's sex at birth I don't think newborns assume anything. They mostly just cry. I'm guessing they just hate the phrase "gender assigned at birth", but in trying avoid using that, they made the sentence gibberish. --- Dedicated to D - 4/15/05 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wackyteen 03/01/24 5:00:38 PM #15: |
TMOG posted...
Okay, what's the appropriate amount of upset to be about politicians trying to permanently label somebody as a sex offender just for calling a trans girl "she"? Or the effect that this is going to have on the trans kids?Their point is the intent of the law is to make you mad so the proposers can go "Look how mad they get when we try to protect your kids!" --- The name is wackyteen for a reason. Never doubt. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Robot2600 03/01/24 5:20:52 PM #16: |
can you not fucking read?
"too upset about bills until they pass or you'll have a heart attack" you seem pretty close to one so i think you're doing okay stroke out for all i care let's also ignore that I said "this shit is blatantly unconstitutional and also goes against title 9 of the civil rights act" like, maybe, i was speaking from experience, having gotten extremely worked up about proposed bills that went nowhere. how much should you let this bill ruin your weekend? that's the great part, you decide. if you can't see i was just trying to help a ceman avoid a depression spiral then u can shut the fuck up anyway this is me trying to be nice. don't act like i need to be in an emotional frenzy that meets your standards either. it's the same fucking shit you said---why don't TMOG tell me exactly how upset i should be LoZguy709 posted... Rarely will Missouri recognize constitutional rights of a protected class before the federal government forces it to. This seems pretty extreme of a penalty for simply not using the pronoun assigned to a student at birth so I'd hope it wouldn't get through or at least not in the current format, but I wouldn't be shocked if it did either. that's the thing about this: it's so fucking wildly unconstitutional i cant imagine it doing anything except dying. like, im not ignorant of what's happened in tx and florida, but this bill just seems so fucking dumb i cant see it passing even in those states. I admit i know nothing about MO. ----------- is this going anywhere? or is it the psycho work of GRAGG whoever the fuck they are? so i guess vote gragg out of office. does the entire gop support this? doesn't look like it as far as i can tell. im willing to be wrong, i don't fucking know, but it looks similar to other 1-person bills. if you want a serious answer then i think the threshold for getting upset should be higher than a bill that's just a 1-person thing. --- --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TMOG 03/01/24 5:26:50 PM #17: |
Robot2600 posted... can you not fucking read?That's an awfully big melty you're having over a simple question. Maybe you shouldn't be so upset so you don't give yourself a heart attack -- try to stick to acceptable levels of upset, please. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Robot2600 03/01/24 5:27:48 PM #18: |
Robot2600 posted...
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LoZguy709 03/01/24 5:30:14 PM #19: |
Robot2600 posted... that's the thing about this: it's so fucking wildly unconstitutional i cant imagine it doing anything except dying. Missouri doesn't see trans rights at protected the same way other classes, thus not giving trans people the same constitutional protections. If anything, I almost feel like this would be better pitched as a free speech issue as far as the US or Missouri Constitutions would be concerned. I do wonder if the bill would be strictly applying the use of a certain pronoun as amounting to providing non-material support for social transitioning, especially when the punishment is losing the right to vote and having to register as a sex offender. It's worded very conveniently ambiguously, but obviously is problematic whatever way it would be applied. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wackyteen 03/01/24 5:36:07 PM #20: |
LoZguy709 posted...
Missouri doesn't see trans rights at protected the same way other classes, thus not giving trans people the same constitutional protections. If anything, I almost feel like this would be better pitched as a free speech issue as far as the US or Missouri Constitutions would be concerned.It would be a free speech issue. Well, should be. Telling teachers they can't refer to the student by the name (or pronoun in this case) that the student wants to be is clear government censorship of both the teacher and the student (I know they don't really have rights in a classroom setting but that's another issue) --- The name is wackyteen for a reason. Never doubt. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LoZguy709 03/01/24 5:37:20 PM #21: |
wackyteen posted... It would be a free speech issue. Well, should be. Yeah, it's the classroom setting that makes me think it wouldn't really fly so well as a 1983 issue. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Robot2600 03/01/24 5:37:33 PM #22: |
that bill is literal diarrhea. it's like trying to read diarrhea.
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GranQroppoop 03/01/24 5:39:13 PM #23: |
darkace77450 posted...
"Social transition", the process by which an individual adopts the name, pronouns, and gender expression, such as clothing or haircuts, that match the individual's gender identity and not the gender assumed by the individual's sex at birth Making a law based on one culture's ideas of how things should work can't possibly be Constitutional. "I think that haircut is too short for a woman, the person that cut it must be a sex offender." --- Any last one-liners before I go ape on you? - Hoss Delgado Mmm, toast some marshmallows for me too Mailman.- Chris Paul ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Umbreon 03/01/24 5:40:39 PM #24: |
GOP: EVERYTHING IS SO WOKE, YOU CAN GET CANCELED FOR 'ACCIDENTALLY' USING THE WRONG PRONOUNS!
Also the GOP: Always Projection --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThePieReborn 03/01/24 5:42:22 PM #25: |
Someone check the hard drive of this representative. I have grave concerns.
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Jiek_Fafn 03/01/24 5:44:34 PM #26: |
I had to read the topic title several times because I assumed it was missing a word or something. The concept was so stupid that it didn't click
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hockeybabe89 03/01/24 5:59:30 PM #27: |
Time to call all cis males "she". I mean, I don't want to be labelled a sex offender by using their preferred pronouns.
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uwnim 03/01/24 6:04:22 PM #28: |
Whoever proposed this and anyone who votes or voted for it should have their voting rights removed and be placed in prison.
It is absolutely fucked up. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 03/01/24 6:31:03 PM #29: |
ScazarMeltex posted... Nazis doing Nazi shit. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SauI_Goodman 03/01/24 6:32:34 PM #30: |
Missouri
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ClayGuida 03/01/24 7:03:40 PM #31: |
Driving away teachers and doctors. Hell of a state.
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CSCA33 03/03/24 6:08:06 PM #33: |
wtf is wrong with those ppl
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Gwynevere 03/03/24 6:16:16 PM #34: |
CSCA33 posted...
wtf is wrong with those pplThey're Nazis --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream [She/they] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CADE_FOSTER 03/03/24 11:11:55 PM #35: |
why is it always the poverty red states that take tons of our money cuz they suck with these backward ass laws ... Copied to Clipboard!
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02fran 03/04/24 11:44:40 AM #36: |
CADE_FOSTER posted... why is it always the poverty red states that take tons of our money cuz they suck with these backward ass lawsThey were mistakes ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Euripides 03/05/24 4:19:11 PM #38: |
Gen Z'ers in 2025: "Sure, they're rounding up trans people and executing them in the streets, but at least we taught that 80 year old a lesson about Israel!"
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DarthAragorn 03/07/24 12:01:13 AM #40: |
remember when our great grandparents shot nazis and now our country is electing them
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Euripides 03/07/24 12:50:16 AM #41: |
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It's deleted --- Your mom ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybabe89 03/07/24 12:59:34 AM #42: |
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Yeah, anyone who can't connect the dots of "calling all queer people and allies sex offenders" and executing sex offenders is deliberately ignorant. --- https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png she/her ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlueKat 03/08/24 10:51:14 PM #43: |
Euripides posted...
Gen Z'ers in 2025: "Sure, they're rounding up trans people and executing them in the streets, but at least we taught that 80 year old a lesson about Israel!"https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/bd0b3441.jpg --- There is no good. There is no evil. There just is. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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