Current Events > Kid tells teacher to shut the fuck up... AT SCHOOL FUNCTION

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I can't believe this was four years ago.

Explain why hitting an equal is worse than hitting someone smaller than you who you are supposed to protect.

Speaking from a purely moral perspective and not a legal one, if your job is to rear a child then it falls to you to address how to punish them when you deem they've acted out. Spanking is one method and, while not warranted in every case, would definitely be used if I ever heard my 4 year old tell anyone shut the fuck up especially a person of authority who they should defer to such as a teacher. This is what my parents would do to me and it is what everyone's parents would do who grew up in my time and place. (Actually, I can tell you if this happened in my school growing up first the teacher would spank you, then the principal/administrator, THEN the spanking you got when you got home would be the worst of all).

You mentioned the parental aspect of protection. I would argue not punishing them at appropriate times would be tantamount to not protecting them. If you haven't drilled it into the very core of their being to respect authority and others then there's no telling what kind of trouble they may get into at later ages.

the legal definition of assault

People in Japan are largely non-religious, hitting kids is illegal (including slapping and spanking), and this type of stuff doesn't happen. Maybe this behavior isn't due to a lack of "God" or beatings.

Speaking from a purely moral perspective and not a legal one, if your job is to rear a child then it falls to you to address how to punish them when you deem they've acted out. Spanking is one method and, while not warranted in every case, would definitely be used if I ever heard my 4 year old tell anyone shut the fuck up especially a person of authority who they should defer to such as a teacher. This is what my parents would do to me and it is what everyone's parents would do who grew up in my time and place. (Actually, I can tell you if this happened in my school growing up first the teacher would spank you, then the principal/administrator, THEN the spanking you got when you got home would be the worst of all).

You mentioned the parental aspect of protection. I would argue not punishing them at appropriate times would be tantamount to not protecting them. If you haven't drilled it into the very core of their being to respect authority and others then there's no telling what kind of trouble they may get into at later ages.

Are people seriously defending this kid's parents? You best believe he is dating that at home. 90% likely he got it from his parents.

Are people seriously defending this kid's parents? You best believe he is dating that at home. 90% likely he got it from his parents.

Apparently it's more believable to some ITT that he got it from some other toddler.

Apparently it's more believable to some ITT that he got it from some other toddler.

"and what they see in the media just as much."

Why did you ignore this part of post #160? Is it because it wrecks your narrative or were you just that sheltered as a kid?

A kid that age shouldn't have access to rated R media.

Why are children allowed to use language that we can't use on GameFAQs without getting modded?

First of all, you ended up as a Trump supporter, so saying something is how it was done when you were growing up, in the most generous context, adds no credibility to it.

Second, the discussion is about hitting your children, whether children should be disciplined was never a topic of discussion outside of a strawman you've been clinging to.

Third, speaking against people spreading hatred is also a responsibility, so that's even more reason "you need to raise your kids" isn't a justification for physical violence.

Finally, respecting authority because it's authority is a bad message and is applied arbitrarily even by those who claim to believe in it. See you supporting the treasonous criminal who ignores any rule that inconveniences him.

Ad hominem, much?

"Hitting your children" and spanking them when they act out come from two entirely different places. I mean, you're implying spanking your children and abusing them are the same thing?

But you didn't say "speak against" spreading hatred, you said "why shouldn't we punch them?" or something amounting to that. Why should disagreeing with what someone says or believes be a justification for physical violence?

I also don't disagree that it is a parent's obligation to teach their child to accept others. So I'm not sure why we're even arguing about this particular point.

I disagree. Better they learn how to defer to authority than to live their life thinking they are above it.

TC, why did you ignore this? If hitting kids and religion is so important why are Japanese kids so well behaved?

Nobody is implying that. Theyre stating it.

Well they're not. I don't know how much more clear I can be.

Well they're not. I don't know how much more clear I can be.

Its not that youre unclear. Its just that youre wrong.

Cool, so I can slap my wife as long as I claim there was no "malicious intent"?

Sounds pretty biblical to me...

Cool, so I can slap my wife as long as I claim there was no "malicious intent"?

Sounds pretty biblical to me...

If you've slapped your wife for any reason other than self defense, then it's pretty clear to me that malicious intent was involved. So no you may not slap your wife and claim "malicious intent" to be morally or legally justified.

What is your intent when you beat a child?

What if you were to beat your wife for the same reason?

Don't forget, wife beating has Biblical approval too!

If you've deemed they've acted out, the purpose of spanking them for it is to correct their behavior.

The same logic that applies to spanking children when they act out does not logically, morally, or legally extend to spanking another adult. Spanking your wife, if you've deemed she's acted out, would amount to abuse in my eyes.

And yet you see no hypocrisy there. In fact, logic should dictate that the adult is not as defenseless as a the child, yet you advocate for physically harming the defenseless child

The child is subject to the whims of the parents who, by nature and God and Man's laws, are charged with the rearing of the child. The same is not true of another adult. That is why spanking your child if they've acted out is ok, but spanking your wife would not be.

The child is subject to the whims of the parents who, by nature and God and Man's laws, are charged with the rearing of the child. The same is not true of another adult. That is why spanking your child if they've acted out is ok, but spanking your wife would not be.

Ah, so because the child is your responsibility, that makes it okay to completely fail them in your duty of care. Well that makes perfect sense. Thanks for clearing that up.

I'd argue not spanking them after they've just told their teacher to shut the fuck up and called her a bitch in front of the rest of their classmates, classmates' parents, school staff, and not mention in front of me would be failing them.

If you disagree then that's your prerogative and we have nothing more to say.

I'd argue not spanking them after they've just told their teacher to shut the fuck up and called her a bitch in front of the rest of their classmates, classmates' parents, school staff, and not mention in front of me would be failing them.

If you disagree then that's your prerogative and we have nothing more to say.

Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church

Seems like the wife can also be subject to the 'whims' of her master.

Indeed. The Bible says the wife should be meek and gentle of spirit, and to be agreeable to the husband.

So did you find any passages where the Bible says to beat her if she acts otherwise?

I wish you would have nothing more to say.

Ever

Are you so lacking, so incompetent at human relations, that you cannot conceive of a better way for a child to learn a lesson than through physical violence inflicted by a much bigger, stronger person?

Disgraceful.

Reminder that Billyionaire is on record shilling for late capitalism.

How hard is it for a rich man to enter Heaven again?

He also supports anti-gay and anti-trans laws

According to Deuteronomy, you may have your wife murdered if her virginity cannot be proven.

Yeah, pretty heinous.

So were you gonna post some Bible-approved pro-domestic violence passages? Because I still don't see any. Matter of fact I've googled it for you, since I couldn't think of any off the top of my head, and couldn't find any there either.

Yeah, pretty heinous.

So were you gonna post some Bible-approved pro-domestic violence passages? Because I still don't see any. Matter of fact I've googled it for you, since I couldn't think of any off the top of my head, and couldn't find any there either.

According to Deuteronomy, you may have your wife murdered if her virginity cannot be proven.

Yeah, pretty heinous.

So were you gonna post some Bible-approved pro-domestic violence passages? Because I still don't see any.

Are you so lacking, so incompetent at human relations, that you cannot conceive of a better way for a child to learn a lesson than through physical violence inflicted by a much bigger, stronger person?

Disgraceful.