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Smallville 02/22/24 8:43:28 AM #1:	sometimes using rather recently? it has been in the news because some people think this method is cruel and barbaric --- "That won't work Boss, hide the target in a place they're unlikely to be found"---GZ <cite>Smallville posted [p:978978043] in What do yo... [t:80702988]...</cite> <quote>sometimes using rather recently? it has been in the news because some people think this method is cruel and barbaric </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UT1999 02/22/24 8:50:51 AM #2:	i personally don't have a problem with it --- "Sometimes they even attack wounded foxes" <cite>UT1999 posted [p:978978099] in What do yo... [t:80702988]...</cite> <quote>i personally don't have a problem with it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unknown5uspect 02/22/24 8:53:24 AM #3:	Capital punishment shouldn't exist. --- How can the moon landing be real if the moon isn't real? <cite>Unknown5uspect posted [p:978978129] in What do yo... [t:80702988]...</cite> <quote>Capital punishment shouldn't exist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TommyVercetti 02/22/24 9:12:25 AM #4:	idk it is still more humane and less painful than like a firing squad which iirc is still legal <cite>TommyVercetti posted [p:978978391] in What do yo... [t:80702988]...</cite> <quote>idk it is still more humane and less painful than like a firing squad which iirc is still legal</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 02/22/24 9:20:40 AM #5:	No capital punishment. No exceptions. The nitrogen hypoxia execution was a cheap and dangerous botched job. To minimise suffering, you would need a chamber where the oxygen content was gradually lowered and replaced with nitrogen. They just put a mask over his face and forced him to breathe nitrogen. --- 'Vinyl is the poor man's art collection'. <cite>ai123 posted [p:978978522] in What do yo... [t:80702988]...</cite> <quote>No capital punishment.No exceptions.The nitrogen hypoxia execution was a cheap and dangerous botched job. To minimise suffering, you would need a chamber where the oxygen content was gradually lowered and replaced with nitrogen. They just put a mask over his face and forced him to breathe nitrogen. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CwebbMichSac4 02/22/24 12:38:27 PM #6:	Not sure <cite>CwebbMichSac4 posted [p:978982043] in What do yo... [t:80702988]...</cite> <quote>Not sure</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
uwnim 02/22/24 12:46:02 PM #7:	To do it right you want a sealed chamber that starts out pumping in regular air and then switches to nitrogen without the person being killed knowing it happened. If you avoid CO2 buildup and minimize panic, nitrogen asphyxiation is going to be humane. The way Alabama did it was absolutely the wrong way which is why it went badly. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] <cite>uwnim posted [p:978982186] in What do yo... [t:80702988]...</cite> <quote>To do it right you want a sealed chamber that starts out pumping in regular air and then switches to nitrogen without the person being killed knowing it happened.If you avoid CO2 buildup and minimize panic, nitrogen asphyxiation is going to be humane.The way Alabama did it was absolutely the wrong way which is why it went badly. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/22/24 12:47:43 PM #8:	uwnim posted... To do it right There's no right way to do it. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:978982227] in What do yo... [t:80702988]...</cite> <quote>uwnim posted... </cite><quote>To do it right</quote>There's no right way to do it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 02/22/24 12:48:35 PM #9:	UT1999 posted... i personally don't have a problem with it It didn't work like they said it would, and the guy died in agony. Which is exactly what he was worried about and why he tried to have a different method used. Alabama denied him on the basis it wouldn't be painful. But it was. <cite>Zikten posted [p:978982237] in What do yo... [t:80702988]...</cite> <quote>UT1999 posted... </cite><quote>i personally don't have a problem with it</quote>It didn't work like they said it would, and the guy died in agony. Which is exactly what he was worried about and why he tried to have a different method used. Alabama denied him on the basis it wouldn't be painful. But it was. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SpawnShadow 02/22/24 1:00:17 PM #10:	Zikten posted... It didn't work like they said it would, and the guy died in agony. Which is exactly what he was worried about and why he tried to have a different method used. Alabama denied him on the basis it wouldn't be painful. But it was. At this point, they may as well just go back to hangings, electrocution, guillotines, firing squads, or just straight-up axe-to-the-neck decapitation by a big burly dude in a black mask. If the red states insist on continuing to have state-sanctioned murder, they should at the very least not waste taxpayers' money on experimental, overcomplicated bullshit that doesn't work at all like the lobbyists promised. <cite>SpawnShadow posted [p:978982484] in What do yo... [t:80702988]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite><quote>It didn't work like they said it would, and the guy died in agony. Which is exactly what he was worried about and why he tried to have a different method used. Alabama denied him on the basis it wouldn't be painful. But it was.</quote>At this point, they may as well just go back to hangings, electrocution, guillotines, firing squads, or just straight-up axe-to-the-neck decapitation by a big burly dude in a black mask. If the red states insist on continuing to have state-sanctioned murder, they should at the very least not waste taxpayers' money on experimental, overcomplicated bullshit that doesn't work at all like the lobbyists promised.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
derp420 02/22/24 1:03:43 PM #11:	They should use a standard medical anesthetic to put the person under first, then switch to nitrogen once they're unconscious. Or the gradual introduction others mentioned. Or a shit ton of other obvious things that Alabama didn't think of. --- It's the side effects that save us. ... <cite>derp420 posted [p:978982553] in What do yo... [t:80702988]...</cite> <quote>They should use a standard medical anesthetic to put the person under first, then switch to nitrogen once they're unconscious. Or the gradual introduction others mentioned. Or a shit ton of other obvious things that Alabama didn't think of. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 02/22/24 1:05:25 PM #12:	SpawnShadow posted... At this point, they may as well just go back to hangings, electrocution, guillotines, firing squads, or just straight-up decapitation. If the red states insist on continuing to have state-sanctioned murder, they should at the very least not waste taxpayers' money on experimental, overcomplicated bullshit that doesn't work at all like the lobbyists promised. It's barbaric to execute at all and I oppose it under any circumstances, but it could have been more humane if they had done it properly. I think there is some resistance to painless execution. The vicarious revenge crowd want to see suffering. --- 'Vinyl is the poor man's art collection'. <cite>ai123 posted [p:978982578] in What do yo... [t:80702988]...</cite> <quote>SpawnShadow posted... </cite><quote>At this point, they may as well just go back to hangings, electrocution, guillotines, firing squads, or just straight-up decapitation. If the red states insist on continuing to have state-sanctioned murder, they should at the very least not waste taxpayers' money on experimental, overcomplicated bullshit that doesn't work at all like the lobbyists promised.</quote>It's barbaric to execute at all and I oppose it under any circumstances, but it could have been more humane if they had done it properly.I think there is some resistance to painless execution. The vicarious revenge crowd want to see suffering. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
uwnim 02/22/24 1:38:14 PM #13:	Tyranthraxus posted... There's no right way to do it. If the goal is to kill someone while minimizing suffering, then there is a right way. You can disagree with the goal, but doing so doesnt change the fact that thered be a right way to accomplish it. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] <cite>uwnim posted [p:978983187] in What do yo... [t:80702988]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>There's no right way to do it.</quote>If the goal is to kill someone while minimizing suffering, then there is a right way. You can disagree with the goal, but doing so doesnt change the fact that thered be a right way to accomplish it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pauIie 02/22/24 1:42:00 PM #14:	Unknown5uspect posted... Capital punishment shouldn't exist. --- http://i.imgur.com/O5APL.jpg http://www.last.fm/user/jaeganja <cite>pauIie posted [p:978983249] in What do yo... [t:80702988]...</cite> <quote>Unknown5uspect posted... </cite><quote>Capital punishment shouldn't exist.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/22/24 1:49:10 PM #15:	uwnim posted... If the goal is to kill someone while minimizing suffering, then there is a right way. You can disagree with the goal, but doing so doesnt change the fact that thered be a right way to accomplish it. The moment you set out with a goal like "kill someone but minimize suffering" you've already failed. It doesn't really matter how you kill someone. They're going to be dead when you're done. What difference does it make if the last 5 minutes if their life was torture? "Killing" and "minimize suffering" are opposed ideals. Working towards one means you lose progress in the other. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:978983370] in What do yo... [t:80702988]...</cite> <quote>uwnim posted... </cite><quote>If the goal is to kill someone while minimizing suffering, then there is a right way. You can disagree with the goal, but doing so doesnt change the fact that thered be a right way to accomplish it.</quote>The moment you set out with a goal like "kill someone but minimize suffering" you've already failed. It doesn't really matter how you kill someone. They're going to be dead when you're done. What difference does it make if the last 5 minutes if their life was torture? "Killing" and "minimize suffering" are opposed ideals. Working towards one means you lose progress in the other. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alles-Losen 02/22/24 1:50:27 PM #16:	Just go back to the firing squad. --- Initiating the algorithm for combating unknown foes... <cite>Alles-Losen posted [p:978983390] in What do yo... [t:80702988]...</cite> <quote>Just go back to the firing squad. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NightingaleMD 02/22/24 1:53:02 PM #17:	This whole thing would be invalidated if the makers of Euthasol would just give in and let prisons buy it. There is literally a drug that is used on animals that works 100% humanely and frequently used on animals. It's a powerful barbiturate mixed with a seizure medication and in high doses completely disconnects your brain from your body and causes immediate loss of consciousness followed by no respirations. No animal ever appears to suffer when given. Unfortunately states try to do fancy cocktails and weird shit like this when better methods aren't available. Or just go back to the guillotine. Seems pretty effective too --- Administrative Bureaucrat <cite>NightingaleMD posted [p:978983428] in What do yo... [t:80702988]...</cite> <quote>This whole thing would be invalidated if the makers of Euthasol would just give in and let prisons buy it.There is literally a drug that is used on animals that works 100% humanely and frequently used on animals. It's a powerful barbiturate mixed with a seizure medication and in high doses completely disconnects your brain from your body and causes immediate loss of consciousness followed by no respirations. No animal ever appears to suffer when given.Unfortunately states try to do fancy cocktails and weird shit like this when better methods aren't available.Or just go back to the guillotine. Seems pretty effective too </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 02/22/24 2:15:07 PM #18:	The whole thing would be invalidated if States would stop using killing as a means to punish their citizens. --- 'Vinyl is the poor man's art collection'. <cite>ai123 posted [p:978983806] in What do yo... [t:80702988]...</cite> <quote>The whole thing would be invalidated if States would stop using killing as a means to punish their citizens. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trepan 02/22/24 6:04:09 PM #20:	ai123 posted... The nitrogen hypoxia execution was a cheap and dangerous botched job uwnim posted... The way Alabama did it was absolutely the wrong way which is why it went badly. And where is this information <cite>Trepan posted [p:978987645] in What do yo... [t:80702988]...</cite> <quote>ai123 posted... </cite><quote>The nitrogen hypoxia execution was a cheap and dangerous botched job</quote>uwnim posted... </cite><quote>The way Alabama did it was absolutely the wrong way which is why it went badly.</quote>And where is this information </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
willythemailboy 02/22/24 7:34:10 PM #21:	Trepan posted... And where is this information Basically the guy held his breath as long as possible, resulting in all the suffering usually associated with suffocation. The only way to get around that issue would be for the condemned prisoner to not know when the gas feed changed. --- There are four lights. <cite>willythemailboy posted [p:978989296] in What do yo... [t:80702988]...</cite> <quote>Trepan posted... </cite><quote>And where is this information</quote>Basically the guy held his breath as long as possible, resulting in all the suffering usually associated with suffocation. The only way to get around that issue would be for the condemned prisoner to not know when the gas feed changed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArsGoetia 02/22/24 7:39:30 PM #22:	Tyranthraxus posted... The moment you set out with a goal like "kill someone but minimize suffering" you've already failed. It doesn't really matter how you kill someone. They're going to be dead when you're done. What difference does it make if the last 5 minutes if their life was torture? "Killing" and "minimize suffering" are opposed ideals. Working towards one means you lose progress in the other. so like should i just ask the vet to draw and quarter my 20 year old cat or something <cite>ArsGoetia posted [p:978989415] in What do yo... [t:80702988]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>The moment you set out with a goal like "kill someone but minimize suffering" you've already failed. It doesn't really matter how you kill someone. They're going to be dead when you're done. What difference does it make if the last 5 minutes if their life was torture? "Killing" and "minimize suffering" are opposed ideals. Working towards one means you lose progress in the other.</quote>so likeshould i just ask the vet to draw and quarter my 20 year old cat or something</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/22/24 8:16:37 PM #23:	ArsGoetia posted... so like should i just ask the vet to draw and quarter my 20 year old cat or something Why would you draw and quarter a perfectly healthy cat? --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:978990118] in What do yo... [t:80702988]...</cite> <quote>ArsGoetia posted... </cite><quote>so likeshould i just ask the vet to draw and quarter my 20 year old cat or something</quote>Why would you draw and quarter a perfectly healthy cat? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unknown5uspect 02/22/24 8:18:02 PM #24:	Tyranthraxus posted... Why would you draw and quarter a perfectly healthy cat? His cat must be on death row or something --- How can the moon landing be real if the moon isn't real? <cite>Unknown5uspect posted [p:978990141] in What do yo... [t:80702988]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>Why would you draw and quarter a perfectly healthy cat?</quote>His cat must be on death row or something </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Roachmeat 02/22/24 8:42:00 PM #25:	Tyranthraxus posted... There's no right way to do it. Give the convicted criminal still handcuffed to the family whose lives he/she devastated. Then start a timer for five minutes. Alles-Losen posted... Just go back to the firing squad. or this. <cite>Roachmeat posted [p:978990521] in What do yo... [t:80702988]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>There's no right way to do it.</quote>Give the convicted criminal still handcuffed to the family whose lives he/she devastated. Then start a timer for five minutes.Alles-Losen posted... </cite><quote>Just go back to the firing squad.</quote>or this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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