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Smallville
02/18/24 5:52:36 PM
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activity does deter it? You think it does deter it by a great great amount?

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K181
02/18/24 5:54:00 PM
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There's basically no evidence to suggest that increasing punishments reduces crime rates. Largely because, you know, people usually don't commit crimes with the intent of being caught.

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Robot2600
02/18/24 5:59:14 PM
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punishment should just be endless endless therapy, group therapy, charity work, community service, rehab, arts and crafts, etc etc. that's how you rehabilitate ppl.

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UT1999
02/18/24 6:10:52 PM
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yeah, some. Kinda like if there were no mods on this site it would be much much worse.

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ai123
02/18/24 6:16:48 PM
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There isn't any evidence to support that. It may even have a negative effect at the higher end of the scale.

I know people like to sneer at restorative justice, rehabilitation, and humane prison conditions, but if you actually cared about reducing crime and reoffending rates, rather than getting revenge for something that didn't even happen to you, you would support them.

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Glob
02/18/24 6:18:10 PM
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K181 posted...
There's basically no evidence to suggest that increasing punishments reduces crime rates. Largely because, you know, people usually don't commit crimes with the intent of being caught.

ai123 posted...
There isn't any evidence to support that. It may even have a negative effect at the higher end of the scale.

I know people like to sneer at restorative justice, rehabilitation, and humane prison conditions, but if you actually cared about reducing crime and reoffending rates, rather than getting revenge for something that didn't even happen to you, you would support them.

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TommyVercetti
02/19/24 6:57:30 PM
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yeah
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LeoRavus
02/19/24 7:03:11 PM
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Prison's like a second home to a lot of gang members. They don't give af about doing time and doing thug shit behind bars.

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Smallville
02/19/24 7:08:20 PM
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LeoRavus posted...
Prison's like a second home to a lot of gang members. They don't give af about doing time and doing thug shit behind bars.
what is your answer to the topic question though?

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TommyVercetti
02/21/24 12:48:35 PM
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Smallville posted...
what is your answer to the topic question though?

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PraxagoraKassan
02/21/24 12:51:58 PM
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Uhhh
Men are more likely to do more time and still commit more crime. However, there are no punishments for making people work.

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TommyVercetti
02/21/24 12:52:40 PM
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PraxagoraKassan posted...
Uhhh
Men are more likely to do more time and still commit more crime. However, there are no punishments for making people work.
punishments for making people work?
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PraxagoraKassan
02/21/24 12:54:06 PM
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TommyVercetti posted...
punishments for making people work?
WOULD YOU AGREE that you don't get paid enough?

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TommyVercetti
02/22/24 9:12:53 AM
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yep
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SpawnShadow
02/22/24 9:28:46 AM
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It doesn't. In fact, if Sir Thomas More is to be believed, it could actually make crime worse, as per this excerpt from his book, Utopia:

I think putting thieves to death is not lawful; and it is plain and obvious that it is absurd and of ill consequence to the commonwealth that a thief and a murderer should be equally punished; for if a robber sees that his danger is the same if he is convicted of theft as if he were guilty of murder, this will naturally incite him to kill the person whom otherwise he would only have robbed; since, if the punishment is the same, there is more security, and less danger of discovery, when he that can best make it is put out of the way; so that terrifying thieves too much provokes them to cruelty.
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TommyVercetti
02/22/24 9:31:13 AM
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SpawnShadow posted...
It doesn't. In fact, if Sir Thomas More is to be believed, it could actually make crime worse, as per this excerpt from his book, Utopia:
idk i don't really agree with this author. Most of you guys do?
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ai123
02/22/24 9:43:39 AM
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TommyVercetti posted...
idk i don't really agree with this author. Most of you guys do?
Why don't you agree?

There are plenty of studies that show harsher sentences don't have any effect on reducing crime. Criminals don't expect to get caught, and often aren't aware of sentencing guidelines.

Flattening the punishment curve actually has the effect of increasing violent crime. As happened with the '3 strikes' rule. Might as well be hanged for a sheep as a lamb, as the saying goes.

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UT1999
02/24/24 6:46:40 AM
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i'm not sure. I think it has an effect

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Thanatos_the_Great
02/24/24 8:13:00 AM
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By far the best way to reduce crime is to reduce poverty and inequality.

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ai123
02/24/24 8:21:59 AM
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Thanatos_the_Great posted...
By far the best way to reduce crime is to reduce poverty and inequality.
But we can avoid having to do all that by just blaming the individual.

And living with high crime rates.

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