Current Events > Seth Rollins on Ronda Rousey & other UFC ppl: "don't have stamina"

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Its a work. UFC and WWE are partners now. I'd expect some cross over down the line

but Lesnar shows the opposite

Wrestling is fake and UFC isnt so...

do they do more hours than regular actors?

I was like halfway through the article before realizing I read the name wrong.

"the fuck does Seth Rogan know about it"

I was in Biloxi like a week ago I didn't see no wrestler

DrizztLink posted...

I was like halfway through the article before realizing I read the name wrong.

"the fuck does Seth Rogan know about it"

I was like "why does Henry Rollins give a shit"

unclekoolaid73 posted...

Wrestling is fake and UFC isnt so...

Missed the point of what he said entirely so...

I thought he meant actual stamina. He's just talking about traveling which he isnt wrong about. If you're a big time star like hogan, angle, Lesnar Austin etc you an call the shots and don't have to work house shows. But if you're mid card or lower your ass is on the road 300 days a year. Brutal. Real stamina mma fighter > wwe star

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zrX9Ca7LSyQ&pp=ygUgam9obiBzdG9zc2VsIHNsYXBwZWQgYnkgd3Jlc3RsZXI%3D

Literally every "real" athlete that has tried pro wrestling talks about how surprised they were at how hard it is and what wrestlers have to do and those guys were basically tourists for the most part.

The cardio that wrestlers have to go through is on another level.

I wouldn't argue with him, and he's a product of modern wrestling, where the travel schedule isn't as rigorous.

The wrestling grind from the "old days" reads like the most grueling job in the entertainment industry. Those guys had the road schedule of truck drivers, an intense gym schedule that they needed to maintain no matter how banged up they were... and then there was the actual nightly performance. It's no wonder so many of them were beyond fucked up and died young.

He's right, and it's funny how people will shit all day on pro wrestlers for not being "real" fighters/athletes, but god forbid they ever "bite back".

SauI_Goodman posted...

I thought he meant actual stamina. He's just talking about traveling which he isnt wrong about. If you're a big time star like hogan, angle, Lesnar Austin etc you an call the shots and don't have to work house shows. But if you're mid card or lower your ass is on the road 300 days a year. Brutal. Real stamina mma fighter > wwe star

Remember during the pandemic when WWE stopped doing house shows and discovered they actually made MORE money w/o them and we thought the wrestlers would never have to work those arduous schedules again?
Pepperidge Farm remembers.

WingsOfGood posted...

but Lesnar shows the opposite

Yeah, the definition of Part Timer sure proved it wrong.

Vyrulisse posted...

Literally every "real" athlete that has tried pro wrestling talks about how surprised they were at how hard it is and what wrestlers have to do and those guys were basically tourists for the most part.

yeah because athletes don't suffer scripted injuries. they happen randomly

Many of the pro wrestling stunts are crazy af to me. It basically an extreme sport but the obstacles are people and tables instead of like hand rails, walls, stairs or mountains etc.

unclekoolaid73 posted...

Wrestling is fake and UFC isnt so...

Yeah, but they are actually doing all of those crazy flips and lifts and shit.

The "fight" is staged, but that doesn't make all of the work they do during it not exhausting.

CM Punk couldn't cut the mustard in UFC!

Whoah sick burn amirite

itcheyness posted...

Yeah, but they are actually doing all of those crazy flips and lifts and shit.

The "fight" is staged, but that doesn't make all of the work they do during it not exhausting.

..so they put on a stage show the way circuis performers do

thronedfire2 posted...

..so they put on a stage show the way circuis performers do

Pretty much.

It's scripted theater. I watched AJ Styles and Daniel Bryan wrestle on Smackdown for an freaking hour and it was amazing but I like the theater, cabaret club aspect of it too.

thronedfire2 posted...

..so they put on a stage show the way circuis performers do

Circus Performers aren't constantly being punched and taking bumps

Rollins isn't wrong. Ask any athlete that has dipped their toes in pro-wrestling.

UFC fighters have a couple of fights a year. WWE wrestlers have a couple of matches a week and travel inbetween and while scripted that still wears down and destroys your body.

Hence why they're all addicted to pain pills.

Pro-Wrestling has reached this weird place where people used to think it was real and they didn't hurt each other. Now they actually hurt each other and everyone knows its fake.

People legit think being slammed on the floor and kicked in the face doesn't hurt because it was scripted.

I have to agree.

Wrestling is fucking brutal. The amount of pain, endurance, and more needed to survive in the business is pretty crazy.

How do your learn to fall off a twenty foot ladder? I guess just experience. I don't watch pro wrestling lately but it is in my dna.

This reminds me of that episode of Puzzle Place when Nuzzle and Sizzle argued over climbing a tree and burying a bone.

I agree. Watch the Mayweather vs McGregor fight. Boxers train for stamina. McGregor lost because he got tired and Mayweather still had plenty of energy left.

Pro wrestling is hard, don't get me wrong. But do you know really, and I mean really, drains your stamina? Actual body blows and taking hits in general.

In MMA and boxing, fighters train for months on end to build up stamina to handle a handful of five minute rounds for the former or up to a dozen three minute rounds for the latter, and even at high levels most don't have the staying power to reach a decision due to getting their guts worked to hell and back

Put a WWE wrestler in the ring or octagon and they'll be gasping for breath after only a couple rounds, guaranteed.

Boxing and UFC don't have house shows. Blargh well UFC has more fights but yea just pro wrestling is it's own animal.

Ya show to the show and all of a sudden Hogan is like that doesn't do it for me brother. Brutus the Beefcake. Needs to look strong too.

Hulk Hogan was the Tiger Woods of golf. There usually is that one big signal.

Well, wrestling is a fake fight so.

I think MMA fighters could also fight a lot more often if they where pretending to hit their opponents like wrestlers do lol

I will always not deny it is fake but scripted action has risks. How is it anymore dangerous than a stunt actor.

https://youtu.be/gbjrcqiP7PA?si=3pj7c2U9fF4GJchX

I was drunk earlier and too harsh. the stunts they do are obviously dangerous, and I could never do them

Kamil posted...

Scripted action has risks. How is it anymore dangerous than a stunt actor.

Stunt actors don't do 100+ movies a year, all shot in one take with every stunt back to back.

He's not wrong, it's just there's no superiority to be claiming.

Wrestling and MMA place different demands on a person. They train for what is required of them. You might as well criticize wrestlers for not taking full force punches and kicks to the head: that's not their job.

Kamil posted...

Ya show to the show and all of a sudden Hogan is like that doesn't do it for me brother. Brutus the Beefcake. Needs to look strong too.

or maybe not, brother

ai123 posted...

He's not wrong, it's just there's no superiority to be claiming.

Wrestling and MMA place different demands on a person. They train for what is required of them. You might as well criticize wrestlers for not taking full force punches and kicks to the head: that's not their job.

I actually think it's bad for pro-wrestling

"Look how badly we destroy our bodies. Look how early we all die." isn't really a brag.

Vyrulisse posted...

Literally every "real" athlete that has tried pro wrestling talks about how surprised they were at how hard it is and what wrestlers have to do and those guys were basically tourists for the most part.

Yeah, he's definitely got a point. And athletes from other sports who transition to MMA say the same thing.

I remember seeing a video once where some dude with the Cardinals was doing some MMA drills with Benson Henderson (former WEC & UFC Lightweight champion), and after just a couple of them he was winded, because, as he explained it, he was used to a burst of activity and motion (10-20 seconds max average for one play), then stopping and resting for three, four, five minutes. But in MMA you go five minutes in a row.

Guns_of_Verdun posted...

Stunt actors don't do 100+ movies a year, all shot in one take with every stunt back to back.

To give an example, the final fight scene in The Raid...

https://youtu.be/V2piDs9HMn4?si=RbnUtCr-d8OEx_dy

...took eight days to film. The director said a fight this length (like five minutes) normally takes closer to 15 days.

I thought dis was obvious, and why dey split da roster a couple of decades ago.