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ThePhantomMedic
02/10/24 4:42:37 PM
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they wanna charge me near 300 bucks a month for shit ill never even use. im barely making end meet right now. i think im just gonna refuse treatment if i get into an accident and just give up lol
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ai123
02/10/24 4:43:42 PM
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No way to prevent this . . .

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archizzy
02/10/24 4:45:46 PM
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When I was young and healthy this wouldn't have bothered me but as I have gotten much older and have some health issues I have needed good insurance and used it a lot over the last decade.

I'm glad that I have great insurance for free through my employer and have for the last 25 years but it is also the thing that will keep me working.

I could retire so much earlier if I didn't need insurance coverage. It won't be money keeping me working. I honestly have plenty of that and I'm just stockpiling more into savings and investments. It's the insurance that is keeping me tied to my job.

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Dark_Arbron
02/10/24 4:46:37 PM
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Living as a poor person is no longer considered viable by modern society.

My household's recent medical bills have fucking crippled us, because we had the nerve to be born with certain genetic issues.

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ThePhantomMedic
02/10/24 4:48:43 PM
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yes i already got hit by it last year. i cant afford it so wtf am i supposed to do? lol
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StealThisSheen
02/10/24 4:52:08 PM
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ThePhantomMedic posted...
they wanna charge me near 300 bucks a month for shit ill never even use. im barely making end meet right now. i think im just gonna refuse treatment if i get into an accident and just give up lol

I'd look into seeing if you can get any kind of credit from the state. For example, in Nevada, due to my current income being a good bit less than it used to be, I get a credit from the state that makes my insurance much, much more affordable.

Be sure to explore every possible option before just calling it quits.

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willythemailboy
02/10/24 4:55:34 PM
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This is probably OP's best option. It's basically the midpoint between employer-based health insurance and Medicaid. I've been there and it wasn't awful, and based on my income at the time is was about a quarter of the cost of the insurance offered by my job. Of course it's income based, so if OP is paycheck to paycheck in a high cost of living area like NYC the absolute income cap may still be too high for him to benefit.

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StealThisSheen
02/10/24 4:58:06 PM
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It can definitely depend where you live. When I lived in Kentucky, and I was working a, basically, minimum wage job, I qualified for Obamacare, and it was basically the best thing to ever happen to me, at the time.

I then moved to Nevada, with a much better job that offered fantastic insurance.

I then lost said job due to downsizing, but Nevada has a system that still helps you, based on your income. I don't know if it's specifically an Obamacare extension or not, I just know it exists.

The point is, make sure you know all of your options before just giving up. You might be surprised.

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Accolon
02/10/24 4:59:59 PM
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DarkDoc
02/10/24 5:09:41 PM
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I said in another thread, I've had perhaps 2 visits to the doctors in the last 25 years, both on trivial nonsense. Based on how much I'm taxed, I paid literally $25,000 per minute for the privilege. No, that's not a typo.

Too right it was a waste of money. I'd love to be able to opt out.
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BearlyWilling
02/10/24 5:12:00 PM
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archizzy posted...
When I was young and healthy this wouldn't have bothered me but as I have gotten much older and have some health issues I have needed good insurance and used it a lot over the last decade.

I'm glad that I have great insurance for free through my employer and have for the last 25 years but it is also the thing that will keep me working.

I could retire so much earlier if I didn't need insurance coverage. It won't be money keeping me working. I honestly have plenty of that and I'm just stockpiling more into savings and investments. It's the insurance that is keeping me tied to my job.

Good point here. Im on track to retire in my early 60s but I have a feeling, just with some health issues Ive had in my late 30s, that Ill be tied to a job just for the insurance.

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StealThisSheen
02/10/24 5:14:57 PM
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DarkDoc posted...
I said in another thread, I've had perhaps 2 visits to the doctors in the last 25 years, both on trivial nonsense. Based on how much I'm taxed, I paid literally $25,000 per minute for the privilege. No, that's not a typo.

Too right it was a waste of money. I'd love to be able to opt out.

This has to be an exaggeration.

Let's say the visits were a literal total of 10 minutes. That'd mean you've been taxed $250,000. Obviously, the visits would have been more than 10 minutes, so we're getting into kinda ridiculous territory, here.

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DarkDoc
02/10/24 5:20:14 PM
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StealThisSheen posted...


This has to be an exaggeration.

Let's say the visits were a literal total of 10 minutes. That'd mean you've been taxed $250,000.

Nope.

Each visit perhaps 3 minutes. I didn't count the 30 minutes waiting outside.

The math works out. Twenty five thousand dollars per minute.
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StealThisSheen
02/10/24 5:25:56 PM
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DarkDoc posted...
Nope.

Each visit perhaps 3 minutes. I didn't count the 30 minutes waiting outside.

The math works out. Twenty five thousand dollars per minute.

I'm starting to wonder what kind of life you live where you've apparently literally never been sick, never had a physical, never had bloodwork done, etc. and so on.

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hockeybabe89
02/10/24 5:28:49 PM
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I too agree that immortals should be able to opt out of paying into universal healthcare

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DarkDoc
02/10/24 5:39:37 PM
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StealThisSheen posted...
I'm starting to wonder what kind of life you live where you've apparently literally never been sick, never had a physical, never had bloodwork done, etc. and so on.

Like, I broke an arm when I was 7. But otherwise I've never spent a night in hospital. As an adult, I occasionally get hayfever, and once my girlfriend made me go because I had dry skin on my elbows.

That really is it. In 25 years I've had one day off work with a random flu thing.

My company offers me an annual medical checkup and I never bother to take it. Not trying to boast or anything - I don't see myself as unusual. Lead a pretty normal life - regular drinker, not the most nutritional diet, etc. as a teenager I had a lot of exercise, but not much these days.
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StealThisSheen
02/10/24 5:44:28 PM
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DarkDoc posted...
I don't see myself as unusual.

If you've literally never been to the doctor for anything... An illness, a physical, a checkup, a blood test, whatever... Then, yes, you absolutely are unusual. And that's entirely why the current medical system is a problem. Your average person DOES need access to those things. Your griping that you have to pay into such a thing despite not using them, frankly, comes off as very entitled. And I'm not sure I believe you, anyway. This feels like very blatant trolling.

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Dudebusters
02/10/24 5:49:43 PM
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StealThisSheen posted...
This feels like very blatant trolling.

Because they are a troll

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80684335/978766781


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IfGodCouldDie
02/10/24 6:07:10 PM
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Wait, what? Your government fines you if you don't have health insurance?

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kage_53
02/10/24 6:07:17 PM
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Your workplace doesnt offer it ?

IfGodCouldDie posted...
Wait, what? Your government fines you if you don't have health insurance?
This used to be a thing but Im not sure if its still like that. Youd end up paying higher taxes if I recall correctly.
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Dudebusters
02/10/24 6:16:53 PM
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IfGodCouldDie posted...
Wait, what? Your government fines you if you don't have health insurance?

It used to be a thing back when there was virtually no excuse to not sign up for Obamacare if you didn't have another insurance, because by not paying into the system, however small your contribution was, you were indirectly harming others, despite still using the system if you ever got sick or anything. So they made up for the money lost by taxing you. Which wasn't the intention of Obamacare, but it's what Republicans forced Democrats to agree to.

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DarkDoc
02/11/24 7:28:15 AM
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StealThisSheen posted...
If you've literally never been to the doctor for anything... An illness, a physical, a checkup, a blood test, whatever... Then, yes, you absolutely are unusual.

Nah. The human body just isn't that unreliable. It's perfectly normal for a person to need a doctor only occasionally.

But I guess if you live in a country like the USA and have a TV that pumps out 24 hours of pharma adverts telling you how sick you should feel, then I guess you'd think that was normal.

StealThisSheen posted...
And that's entirely why the current medical system is a problem. Your average person DOES need access to those things.

You're paying in case you need it. It's an insurance, just like car insurance. The definition is that the premiums of the many are enough to pay out the claims of the FEW.

If you make a claim every year then clearly driving isn't for you.

StealThisSheen posted...
Your griping that you have to pay into such a thing despite not using them, frankly, comes off as very entitled. And I'm not sure I believe you, anyway. This feels like very blatant trolling.

In what way? My frequency of doctor use is accurate (of course as a kid I had all the usual stuff, I'm talking as an adult), and the amount of tax I paid is accurate. My gripe is that the British NHS is literally the most wasteful organisation in the world, it doesn't represent value, and I can't opt out. Similar in many ways to how I'm forced to subscribe to the BBC whether I watch it or not.

Pretty convenient you can just apply a label to me and write that off.
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ThePhantomMedic
02/11/24 10:23:54 PM
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Dudebusters posted...
It used to be a thing back when there was virtually no excuse to not sign up for Obamacare if you didn't have another insurance, because by not paying into the system, however small your contribution was, you were indirectly harming others, despite still using the system if you ever got sick or anything. So they made up for the money lost by taxing you. Which wasn't the intention of Obamacare, but it's what Republicans forced Democrats to agree to.
It's still a thing? I got fined last year
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TheLiarParadox
02/11/24 10:27:34 PM
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I had health insurance for like six months and was pretty excited because I've been uninsured all of my adult life and put off a lot of things. The plan was absolute ass, didn't cover a goddamned thing, and was incredibly frustrating to use. Then some shit changed and I was no longer getting any tax credits or whatever. It was going to be around $500 a month for an even worse plan. I couldn't justify that and said fuck it.

America is a joke country.

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MangaBroski
02/11/24 10:30:27 PM
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1.Lie
2.Leave the USA for a better country
3.Get a job that has insurance
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MrToothHasYou
02/11/24 10:35:35 PM
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ThePhantomMedic posted...
It's still a thing? I got fined last year
They reduced the penalty to $0 in 2019 so I dunno what you were paying but it wasnt the Obamacare fine.

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ThePhantomMedic
02/11/24 10:48:30 PM
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MrToothHasYou posted...
They reduced the penalty to $0 in 2019 so I dunno what you were paying but it wasnt the Obamacare fine.
Ahh it's federal. Here in California we still get charged
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kingdrake2
02/11/24 11:00:27 PM
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DarkDoc posted...
otherwise I've never spent a night in hospital


one is very fortunate to never end up spending the night in a hospital. i had to once for severe asthma for 2 nights.

wasn't too much fun. fucking tubes everywhere.

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