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jimbiz
02/07/24 11:09:22 AM
#51:


Holy fuck at the Eric Clapton quote. Mother fucker stole black people music and had the nerve to say that cral

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masterpug53
02/07/24 11:09:59 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
Then when later asked about this, defaulted to "I can't be racist, I make black people music! I don't see colour! I stay out of racial conflict!"

Pretty wild for a guy who's entire career is straight up co-opting a style of blues almost entirely invented by black street musicians of the 1930s

The first I learned about this incident was in a documentary about Clapton several years back. The doc framed it as a one-time thing, and at the time I was willing to write it off as the booze talking, as I'm not one of those people who believes in en vino veritas (incidentally, learning that he was a miserable out-of-his-mind drunk for most of his career is what actually turned me off to the bulk of his music). I saw this doc just before covid though; and after his horseshit behavior during the pandemic, it can't be denied that this is who he really is.

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ai123
02/07/24 11:15:06 AM
#53:


Oh yeah, Clapton did that anti-vax song with Van Morrison, didn't he?

I've never really liked his music (well, apart from Cream, I guess).


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Roachmeat
02/07/24 11:38:25 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Co0tTeuUVhU

Love this song, but the guy behind it is a wackadoo at times.

Other than that, I try extremely hard to seperate the person from their art.
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AbsolutelyNoOne
02/07/24 11:58:08 AM
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Dave Mustaine
a good at least 80% of black metal musicians I have listened to. I've held the opinion that "being able to separate art from the artist" is almost a requirement to listen to black metal because of how many controversies most of the influential bands were in.
Kevin Spacey

those are the ones that immediately jump to mind at least

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SauI_Goodman
02/07/24 12:04:24 PM
#56:


I guess you can lump Vince McMahon in this group. Always appreciated what he was willing to do to entertain the fans, but I've always had a feeling he was a piece of crap behind closed doors he just had that aura to him.

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Roachmeat
02/07/24 12:09:08 PM
#57:


SauI_Goodman posted...
I guess you can lump Vince McMahon in this group.

Here is what is funny about that.

If you despise long @%# title reigns, and remember that back when Vince was controlling the narrative there was actually title changes on Monday night shows, you tend to actually miss Vince just a tiny bit.

Just a tiny bit.

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DemonicChaosXX
02/07/24 12:11:27 PM
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Really? No one's said James Woods? He's just as big of a piece of shit as Kanye.
Same for Clint Eastwood.

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ItsNotA2Mer
02/07/24 12:20:34 PM
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Roger Waters
Roger Waters
Roger Waters

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VeesMcGees
02/07/24 12:30:39 PM
#61:


Dave Mustaine
King Von
Sakis Tolis

-Dave Mustaine was kinda cringe when he was just an addict who was salty about Metallica's success. Then he got clean and became metal's own Rick Santorum. If he gets any worse, I'd actually stop listening to Megadeth.
-King Von was an outright murderer, but he's dead. Since King Von's crimes seemed limited to his gang culture, and that he's now deceased, I don't have too much issue listening to his music.
-Sakis Tolis I don't have incredible hate for. My only beef is he that he whined about masks during hte pandemic. I don't hate him so much as want people to do what they'd do a dumbass uncle who repeated the same and tell him to shut up.

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VeesMcGees
02/07/24 12:33:35 PM
#62:


AbsolutelyNoOne posted...
Dave Mustaine
a good at least 80% of black metal musicians I have listened to. I've held the opinion that "being able to separate art from the artist" is almost a requirement to listen to black metal because of how many controversies most of the influential bands were in.
Kevin Spacey

those are the ones that immediately jump to mind at least
I'm happy to be uninformed to personal behavior of most black metal musicians. Usually, if they're not white supremacists that's enough for me.
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Zwijn
02/07/24 12:49:28 PM
#63:


VeesMcGees posted...
I'm happy to be uninformed to personal behavior of most black metal musicians. Usually, if they're not white supremacists that's enough for me.
Massive waste of talent for some of them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keillers_Park_murder
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_N%C3%B6dtveidt
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VeesMcGees
02/07/24 12:57:55 PM
#64:


Zwijn posted...
Massive waste of talent for some of them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keillers_Park_murder
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_N%C3%B6dtveidt
The murders are usually high-profile enough that I know about them. For that reason, I don't listen to Dissection or Emperor. I have wondered if I'm hypocritical for not listening to them but listening to King Von.
Absu was the only black metal band I had to stop listening to that wasn't because they had a murderer or racist in the band.
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Zwijn
02/07/24 1:01:18 PM
#65:


VeesMcGees posted...
The murders are usually high-profile enough that I know about them. For that reason, I don't listen to Dissection or Emperor. I have wondered if I'm hypocritical for not listening to them but listening to King Von.
Absu was the only black metal band I had to stop listening to that wasn't because they had a murderer or racist in the band.
Not as hypocritical as streaming services or youtube who bar NSBM but allow music from actual murderers and gangs who condone killings.
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SauI_Goodman
02/07/24 1:25:28 PM
#66:


Never realized Mustaine was an ass hat.
I remember a clip of him being in Japan and he was talking to a group of fans and was giving tribute to someone and he called someone an ass cause they hooted. It's like you're in Japan, bud. The native language isn't English. I'm sure some of the people understood you but most probably just saw a guy standing there talking in a foreign language. That's all I know about him.

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godofwar596
02/07/24 1:32:47 PM
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Tom Cruise, absolute horrible piece of shit but hes a great actor and fun to watch

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VeesMcGees
02/07/24 1:35:22 PM
#68:


Zwijn posted...
Not as hypocritical as streaming services or youtube who bar NSBM but allow music from actual murderers and gangs who condone killings.
For the streaming service, the odds are it's not so much hypocritical as much as their bottom line is money. Nsbm is going to draw bigger hate than other unsavory practices. It's viewed as a foul lump of groups whereas the crime of murder usually is just attributed to the individual killer or killers.
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Sheiky-Baby
02/07/24 1:58:46 PM
#69:


Gene Simmons of course with KISS. P Diddy is another. Ric Flair.

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DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC
02/07/24 2:01:16 PM
#70:


VeesMcGees posted...
Absu was the only black metal band I had to stop listening to that wasn't because they had a murderer or racist in the band.
So why'd you stop listening to them? #GenuinelyCurious

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Starlake
02/07/24 2:02:17 PM
#71:


Almost all of funimation
Many voice actors, really :/

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Unknown5uspect
02/07/24 2:06:14 PM
#72:


CeeLo Green

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SicSlayer
02/07/24 2:15:53 PM
#73:


creativerealms posted...
I use to like Kid Rock but his music just isn't that good anymore.


anymore???

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ArsGoetia
02/07/24 2:18:01 PM
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mars volta
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pinky0926
02/07/24 2:19:04 PM
#75:


AbsolutelyNoOne posted...


a good at least 80% of black metal musicians I have listened to. I've held the opinion that "being able to separate art from the artist" is almost a requirement to listen to black metal because of how many controversies most of the influential bands were in.

There's definitely this weird undercurrent of militant libertarian right wing dudes in the metal scene

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KCJ5062
02/07/24 2:21:38 PM
#76:


NeonTentacles posted...
Definitely Kanye West. He has great music but he's a nutcase lol


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Devilanse333
02/07/24 2:34:06 PM
#77:


ai123 posted...
Because he said this during a gig:

(I've censored it and used spoiler tags, so anyone who doesn't want to see a truly nasty racist outburst doesn't have to).

Do we have any foreigners in the audience tonight? If so, please put up your hands So where are you? Well, wherever you all are, I think you should all just leave. Not just leave the hall, leave our country I dont want you here, in the room or in my country. Listen to me, man! I think we should send them all back. Stop Britain from becoming a black colony. Get the foreigners out. Get the [redacted] out. Get the [redacted] out. Keep Britain white The black [redacted] and [redacted] and Arabs and fucking Jamaicans dont belong here, we dont want them here. This is England, this is a white country, we dont want any black [redacted] and [redacted] living here. We need to make clear to them they are not welcome. England is for white people, man This is Great Britain, a white country, what is happening to us, for fucks sake? Throw the [redacted] out! Keep Britain white!

Wow. A man who made his living emulating music created by blacks. Cocaine is a hell of a drug.

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deanshow
02/07/24 2:39:56 PM
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Kanye West, I thought most of his music is brilliant and he's the GOAT producer of beats, but man is he a massive POS. It doesn't help that he platforms antisemitism and other aborehent views and people are like "he's a victim of being silence by the Jewish media" yes I've seen that argument before.

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Smackems
02/07/24 2:45:07 PM
#79:


ai123 posted...
Because he said this during a gig:

(I've censored it and used spoiler tags, so anyone who doesn't want to see a truly nasty racist outburst doesn't have to).

Do we have any foreigners in the audience tonight? If so, please put up your hands So where are you? Well, wherever you all are, I think you should all just leave. Not just leave the hall, leave our country I dont want you here, in the room or in my country. Listen to me, man! I think we should send them all back. Stop Britain from becoming a black colony. Get the foreigners out. Get the [redacted] out. Get the [redacted] out. Keep Britain white The black [redacted] and [redacted] and Arabs and fucking Jamaicans dont belong here, we dont want them here. This is England, this is a white country, we dont want any black [redacted] and [redacted] living here. We need to make clear to them they are not welcome. England is for white people, man This is Great Britain, a white country, what is happening to us, for fucks sake? Throw the [redacted] out! Keep Britain white!
Oh wow

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pinky0926
02/07/24 2:58:13 PM
#81:


CSCA33 posted...
Maynard James Keenan

Is he a bad person or just the sort of smug asshole you hope to never get trapped talking to at a party?

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Southernfatman
02/07/24 3:04:14 PM
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Lots of people already mentioned like Nugent, Mustaine, Clapton, etc. Tons of great musicians from the past were shit people and loved underage girls and/or have godawful political views. Wrestling is another industry that has a ton of talented, but horrible people which some here have mentioned.

Seems like any entertainment industry in general is full of creeps and assholes.

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CSCA33
02/07/24 3:18:35 PM
#84:


pinky0926 posted...
Is he a bad person or just the sort of smug asshole you hope to never get trapped talking to at a party?
More to do with his earlier years touring, having staff handpick very young women for him at all the shows over the years (regular thing in the music industry as you're probably aware) which eventually led to some sexual assault allegations.

I've never met him in person so there's just what you read about from other people meeting him, and he settled down with a family now.


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Gobstoppers12
02/07/24 3:21:56 PM
#85:


I can't really think of any actors or performers that I hate. Mostly there are some that are very annoying about politics, shoving them into everything they say or do publicly, but even then it's just an annoyance and not something I hate them for.

Kanye is probably the best example of that. I don't hate him, I just think he's literally insane.

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VeesMcGees
02/07/24 7:05:36 PM
#87:


DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC posted...
So why'd you stop listening to them? #GenuinelyCurious
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trappedunderice
02/07/24 7:50:23 PM
#88:


Tim Lambesis. I like Austrian Death Machine but man what a piece of shit.
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vycebrand2
02/07/24 8:06:36 PM
#89:


Jim Caviezel. I like every thing he's done even Transit. His hyper-religious beliefs and stances on abortion turn me away from liking him

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SauI_Goodman
02/08/24 12:32:47 AM
#90:


SicSlayer posted...
anymore???
He had some bangers towards the middle of his career. His early stuff sucked when he was strictly rap (balls in your mouth). His rap- rock stuff was actually pretty good. His new stuff is a little too soft for me.

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mustachedmystic
02/08/24 6:10:35 AM
#91:


What did Billy Corgan do?

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NhojAnec
02/09/24 5:48:57 AM
#92:


Undertaker and Kane. They are dumbass Trump supporters but they are also some of my favorite wrestlers ever.

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Kai_Laguna
02/09/24 5:59:52 AM
#93:


mustachedmystic posted...
What did Billy Corgan do?
Probably him being a libertarian and not liking the social justice movement.
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ArrogantRat
02/09/24 7:10:01 AM
#94:


Rancid

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Zwijn
02/09/24 7:11:35 AM
#95:


Kai_Laguna posted...
Probably him being a libertarian and not liking the social justice movement.
Oh one of those pampered shits who dont know shit about the world. Sounds like a celeb alright.
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DepreceV2
02/09/24 7:11:48 AM
#96:


Kanye and R Kelly come to mind. I cant stand them as people but I fuck with their music

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Vokrent
02/09/24 7:26:39 AM
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on the topic of youtubers, Ryan Haywood was always my favourite guy in AH/Let's Play videos, and then he ended up being a massive piece of shit, but some of their older videos with him in them still make me laugh my ass off. and then i feel weird about it.

hate it

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CompatibleGreet
02/09/24 7:36:58 AM
#99:


Troy baker. Hear a lot of how much an asshole he is. It's more funny he tried to support NFT just for it to backfire

Definitely Kanye. I should've known Vince McMahon would be on that list.
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