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Topic: Tom Holland is depressed
Discussion: What age does a child stop being a child?

FortuneCookie posted...

You didn't see yourself as a child when you were 17.

Just because you don't think you're a child at that age doesn't mean you aren't a child. You're an older child, but a child nonetheless.

FortuneCookie posted...

You didn't see yourself as a child when you were 17.

Neither do most 13 year olds. That's why we don't listen to them and use more objective metrics of adulthood.

The good old "I love all that's good about something and hate all that's not". He didn't mention pay.

That's the price for all the money and attention.

Money is a tool and provides many options. If you cant figure out how to use that tool, those options to figure out a solution to your problem i dont know what to say.

I love how CE seems to think that being rich means you arent allowed to have mental health struggles.

FortuneCookie posted...

Transitional stages are a thing. It's like saying that a cocoon stage is part of the caterpillar stage of life. You're learning things, you're physically and mentally maturing, you're finding new interests and new freedoms.

It's not all about sexuality.

It isn't,
Option A) Every young person is a child.
Option B) I want to fuck kids.

You didn't see yourself as a child when you were 17. You look back on where you were at that stage of life and retroactively consider your younger self a child because you're old now and you only remember the mistakes you made or the things you didn't realize you didn't know at the time.

Don't infantilize others because youth has passed you by.

Of course people don't see themselves as kids when they're 17 they're still children and don't know better

BlueBoy675 posted...

I love how CE seems to think that being rich means you arent allowed to have mental health struggles.

Even ignoring mental health struggles, there's some problems that money simply does not fix and having a lot of it may only make those problems worse.

Tyranthraxus posted...

Topic: Tom Holland is depressed
Discussion: What age does a child stop being a child?

Its not a discussion, its just one person trying to be weird about 16 year olds and everyone else justifiably calling that out

Makes sense
He's made a bunch of comments over the past few years about wanting to just be a stay at home dad while Zendaya goes to work.

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Even ignoring mental health struggles, there's some problems that money simply does not fix and having a lot of it may only make those problems worse.

Even ignoring the money aspect, it possible to love what you do (and your life in general) but still have some things you dislike.

FortuneCookie posted...

Transitional stages are a thing. It's like saying that a cocoon stage is part of the caterpillar stage of life. You're learning things, you're physically and mentally maturing, you're finding new interests and new freedoms.

It's not all about sexuality.

It isn't,
Option A) Every young person is a child.
Option B) I want to fuck kids.

You didn't see yourself as a child when you were 17. You look back on where you were at that stage of life and retroactively consider your younger self a child because you're old now and you only remember the mistakes you made or the things you didn't realize you didn't know at the time.

Don't infantilize others because youth has passed you by.

You need to know how to walk away and not try to get the last word

not surprised. best of luck to the old boy

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

Also for everyone saying money would give them all the happiness in the world, thats bullshit. Yes, many things would be fixed by having a ton of money, but that does not mean youd have the perfect life.

Depression is NOT LOGICAL. I had my lowest moments of depression despite the fact that i had a well paying job and a place to stay.

Literally, no one said this. At all.

pnut027 posted...

Literally, no one said this. At all.

No, just that those with money shouldn't be able to talk about their problems.

So much fucking better.

pnut027 posted...

Literally, no one said this. At all.

one of the exact quotes in this topic is someone saying money isnt happiness immediately followed by someone saying things that people with money say lmaoo

pnut027 posted...

Literally, no one said this. At all.

one of the exact quotes in this topic is someone saying money isnt happiness followed by someone else saying things that people with money say lmaoo

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/0/02fb0f6f.jpg

EmilyTheCEman posted...

Well this topic took a fucking turn (literally).

/rimshot

masterpug53 posted...

"Ooh, look at the little rich boy whining about his problems! Fuck off and quit complaining you privileged brat, some of us have real shit to deal with!"

~ CEmen who over half the world's population would give anything to trade places with

You failed hard to make your point lol

froghunter75 posted...

Of course people don't see themselves as kids when they're 17 they're still children and don't know better

In fairness, I was very much an adult at 16. I do appreciate thats not the norm though. I was forced to grow up quickly.

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Hello fellow Tobeymaniac.

I will march with you for Spider-Man 4 (OG) if you ever decide to.

DrizztLink posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/0/02fb0f6f.jpg

*saves*

DarkBuster22904 posted...

Neither do most 13 year olds. That's why we don't listen to them and use more objective metrics of adulthood.

That's a fair counterargument. Yes, I would say that a 13-year-old is still a child. But 17 is still further along in development. If 17 is a child, then Zendaya is a groomer and we should be calling for her cancellation.

AltAccount3 posted...

You need to know how to walk away and not try to get the last word

It's not about getting the last word. It's that teens are objectively more developed that children. If you want to talk about sexual matters, it's fair to say that they're all minors and leave it at that. In terms of everything else, a 17-year-old is going to handle complex issues, violent content, difficult choices, the responsibility of driving, choices over whether to adhere to social structures or rebel against them, and everything else with closer proximity to an adult than, say, an 8-year-old or a 12-year-old.

FortuneCookie posted...

It's not about getting the last word. It's that teens are objectively more developed that children. If you want to talk about sexual matters, it's fair to say that they're all minors and leave it at that. In terms of everything else, a 17-year-old is going to handle complex issues, violent content, difficult choices, the responsibility of driving, choices over whether to adhere to social structures or rebel against them, and everything else with closer proximity to an adult than, say, an 8-year-old or a 12-year-old.

Nobody is disputing that people mature as they go. Theyre just stating that in most capacities a 16 year old is seen as a child, and theyre absolutely right.

It was a very frustrating truth for me, when I was 16, as I was working full time and living alone and financially independent, but in many ways seen as a child. But frustrating or not, its still the truth.

Glob posted...

In fairness, I was very much an adult at 16. I do appreciate thats not the norm though. I was forced to grow up quickly.

I'm sorry that's the case man but you definitely were still a child just sounds like you were a child that had to take on adult responsibilities and that's not fair to you, hope everything is going well for you now

froghunter75 posted...

I'm sorry that's the case man but you definitely were still a child just sounds like you were a child that had to take on adult responsibilities and that's not fair to you, hope everything is going well for you now

I mean, its semantics at that point, isnt it?

But yeah, things are very good for me now. I had some very rough years but I cant complain about the life I live today.

It's pretty easy to have privacy as a Hollywood star.

Stop using social media (or use a pseudonym), and don't live in Hollywood itself.

Do somethink like what Madonna or Tom Hanks did, move to the EU (Portugal, Greece in their cases, specifically).

And suddenly, nobody give you the time of day.

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No. And people aren't thronging around Sintra hoping to get a photo of Madonna.

They're going to see the Royal Palace.

Tom_Joad posted...

It's pretty easy to have privacy as a Hollywood star.

Stop using social media (or use a pseudonym), and don't live in Hollywood itself.

Do somethink like what Madonna or Tom Hanks did, move to the EU (Portugal, Greece in their cases, specifically).

And suddenly, nobody give you the time of day.

Ah yes. Just be 30 years removed from the peak of your fame, use a fake name, and leave the country.

A perfectly reasonable, sensible solution.

DarkBuster22904 posted...

Ah yes. Just be 30 years removed from the peak of your fame, use a fake name, and leave the country.

A perfectly reasonable, sensible solution.

It is, when you've got the cash and the problem. Of which this guy seems to have both.

And I might add, using a pseudonym isn't hard. YOU are doing it right now on this old-school social media website.

The lack of empathy from this board never ceases to amaze me

Tom_Joad posted...

It's pretty easy to have privacy as a Hollywood star.

Stop using social media (or use a pseudonym), and don't live in Hollywood itself.

Do somethink like what Madonna or Tom Hanks did, move to the EU (Portugal, Greece in their cases, specifically).

And suddenly, nobody give you the time of day.

But as he clearly said, he LIKES acting. He enjoys working. He shouldnt need to make a fake name and move to a different country just to get some level of privacy

Tom_Joad posted...

It is, when you've got the cash and the problem. Of which this guy seems to have both.

And I might add, using a pseudonym isn't hard. YOU are doing it right now on this old-school social media website.

If you cant see that theres a difference between you signing up for gamefaqs, and a famous person attempting to hide their identity with a fake name then i dont even know what to say

ANort175 posted...

If he hates it so much he should give me some of the money he's made off his movies, I'm sure that'll make him feel better.

"I don't like my job anymore"

"Oh yeah? Then give up all the money you ever made from it!"

Tom_Joad posted...

It is, when you've got the cash and the problem.

It is not, for a number of reasons.

1) social activity exists outside of the online space. The guy isn't complaining about instagram followers, he's complaining about paparazzi shoving cameras up his ass.

2) Paparazzi don't care about Madonna or Tom Hanks, and haven't for 20 years. If you seriously think they won't stalk him to France or whatever, you're insane.

3) The celebrities you mentioned have massively slowed down their output. Holland has not. And it's sensible for someone to live where the work is. Which brings us to:

4) He'll have to spend most of his time in Hollywood anyway, since that's where he's literally working. You can't telecommute an acting performance.

and 5) He does, in fact, have family/friends/a life here that most people wouldn't be willing to just throw away to go play hermit in Europe.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

But as he clearly said, he LIKES acting. He enjoys working. He shouldnt need to make a fake name and move to a different country just to get some level of privacy

Tina Turner loved singing. She moved to Ksnacht, Switzerland.

It's actually kind of common for famous US celebrities to move to Europe to get some peace and quiet.

And he's got an agent and can look at screenplays anywhere in the world... only needing to fly back to Hollywood to audition. (And act, if it's filmed in a Hollywood studio.)

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

If you cant see that theres a difference between you signing up for gamefaqs, and a famous person attempting to hide their identity with a fake name then i dont even know what to say

And I wrote:

Stop using social media (or use a pseudonym), and don't live in Hollywood itself.

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You realize that every time a servicemember moves overseas, they do exactly what you claim is so difficult?

Tens of thousands of moves every years, but it's just so hard! And they leave behind their extended family, too. Sometimes even leaving their close family, in the case of deployments or a tour in South Korea.

Moving overseas is not as hard as you think it is. Especially to a country in the EU... and especially if you have money.

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Like bruh there is such a world of difference between being deployed as MILITARY PERSONNEL and voluntarily uprooting your life and going somewhere else

I cant even tell if this is supposed to be serious anymore thats just such a bizarre comparison

Weve gone from depressed celebrity to pedophilia to the military lifestyle.

Every new page of this topic is an adventure.

EmilyTheCEman posted...

Weve gone from depressed celebrity to pedophilia to the military lifestyle.

Every new page of this topic is an adventure.

its all connected to the depressed celebrity, there are just some outrageous takes regarding said depressed celebrity.

Like one poster doubling and even tripling down on his belief that 16 year olds arent children

And another saying how simple it is to move countries because military people do it all the time

Glob posted...

Nobody is disputing that people mature as they go. Theyre just stating that in most capacities a 16 year old is seen as a child, and theyre absolutely right.

It was a very frustrating truth for me, when I was 16, as I was working full time and living alone and financially independent, but in many ways seen as a child. But frustrating or not, its still the truth.

If teen years aren't the transition, what is?

Like I said, you don't go to bed one night with the mental maturity of a child and wake up the next morning as an adult. Should we consider 17 a child and 18 thru 23 to be transitional? If you're attracted to a 20-year-old, you're attracted to someone who is a half-step up from being a child?

If you're worried about semantics, I would argue "youth" is a good term for a teen. It's a reminder that they have a long way to go, and that they're not to be sexualized or pursued romantically by adult-adults, but it still doesn't infantilize them by placing them in the same category as a 7-year-old.

FortuneCookie posted...

If teen years aren't the transition, what is?

Like I said, you don't go to bed one night with the mental maturity of a child and wake up the next morning as an adult. Should we consider 17 a child and 18 thru 23 to be transitional? If you're attracted to a 20-year-old, you're attracted to someone who is a half-step up from being a child?

If you're worried about semantics, I would argue "youth" is a good term for a teen. It's a reminder that they have a long way to go, and that they're not to be sexualized or pursued romantically by adult-adults, but it still doesn't infantilize them by placing them in the same category as a 7-year-old.

Or maybe, just maybe, they're still children, and people are smart enough to realize that word encompasses a large age group of varying levels of development, instead of getting hung up on the word itself.

Absolutely bizarre thing to get hung up on and insist on having the last word about, but this type of pedantry is par for the course for you.