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Shoot_FTH
11/13/23 7:31:00 AM
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Why do people sometimes get so upset about immigration?

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Glob
11/13/23 7:34:21 AM
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I am an immigrant, so Im inclined to think its pretty awesome.
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Zwijn
11/13/23 7:42:43 AM
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I dont dislike immigrants necessarily. I do dislike overpopulation. This is not an issue yet for you Americans, it is an issue here in The Netherlands. They are also a profit model for many which directly affect the rest of the population.

tl;dr
  • country is already massively overpopulated, but people keep coming in
  • immigrants get priority when it comes to housing, and waiting lists were already 15+ years
  • expat students get priority for universities and again housing, they are also subsidized so said housing became more expensive and other people cannot afford it
  • incompetent spread, some asylum seeker centers are placed in rural villages and they outnumber locals many times
  • a lot of extremist criminals in those centers, and they not only cause trouble for those locals but they also attack fellow immigrants since the government is insane enough to put nearly radicalized religious people who came here for economic reasons in the same room as people who fled from said regimes because they were persecuted
  • we arent allowed to build more housing because we have too many farms, we are the number 2 food exporter in the world and this causes extreme amounts of nitrogen emissions, construction was halted because of it
  • we have no actual nature because of all this, this is not a joke but we literally only have a few spots of man-made nature and even those are endangered because of the place needed for new housing in the future
Seriously though, we are full. I dont care who comes here, I dont care who leaves, I just want less people. We will be Europes first megacity according to projections.
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ai123
11/13/23 7:46:28 AM
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Positive.

I very much enjoy the cultural variety.

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GunmaN1905
11/13/23 7:58:27 AM
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Everything needs to have a balance. Same goes for immigration.

Zwijn made a pretty good post. At the moment in Europe feels like immigrants are more important than domestic population in a lot of countries.

Refugees should always be allowed, but a lot of immigrants disguise themselves as refugees when they actually aren't. And they come to Europe from countries that have no ongoing conflicts. And very few get turned back.

Just last week I was in Vienna for a couple of days due to work, haven't been there in a while. Walked all across the city and there's maybe 20-30% German I heard. Multiculturalism is one thing, but when immigrants want to take over, that's another. But if you say anything about growing crime rate because of certain demographic, you're instantly labelled a racist.

I'd personally kick out anyone from any country if they aren't fluent in that language after 3 years.
Any serious crime should also mean instant deportation.
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Intro2Logic
11/13/23 7:59:40 AM
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Most normal sunhawk topic

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emblem-man
11/13/23 8:02:01 AM
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Love it, it's awesome

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Prismsblade
11/13/23 8:04:40 AM
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Somewhere inbetween. Your user lvs not high enough for me to believe youre asking this question out of curiosity.

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Sariana21
11/13/23 8:07:05 AM
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Imigration? Is that when I move data from one Apple device to another?

Typo jokes aside, I generally like immigration.

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GeraldDarko
11/13/23 8:07:53 AM
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Intro2Logic posted...
Most normal sunhawk topic


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Ivany2008
11/13/23 8:13:48 AM
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I don't mind immigration. That said, the very least you can do if you are migrating to another country is learn their language, and the very least that they can do is not put you on Drive Thru speaker box until you are competent enough to actually understand and speak the language.

I also think that if your a recruiter for a company you should be able to speak clear FUCKING ENGLISH if your in Canada/US. Jesus Christ, I've been recruited to 2 separate companies where the recruiter is from Ontario speaking English with a thick accent. I got nothing against Indian/Pakistanian people but my god I've had to tell these people, "Send me an email, don't call me as I can't understand what your saying". And they don't know the meaning of "No, I'm unable to work for you". I was going through Chemo, and this recruiter didn't understand that I was unable to work for 6 months, she kept saying "So you'll be able to work next week, or next month?". Like no, I'm immunocompromised.
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EmilyTheCEman
11/13/23 8:28:13 AM
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My wife is an immigrant so yeah its pretty neat-o.

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Rika_Furude
11/13/23 8:29:22 AM
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legal immigration is fine but illegal immigration is not so fine IMO
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AloneIBreak
11/13/23 8:54:28 AM
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Prismsblade posted...
Your user lvs not high enough for me to believe youre asking this question out of curiosity.
Get a load of this guy

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Cemith
11/13/23 8:57:49 AM
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Intro2Logic posted...
Most normal sunhawk topic

At least it's better than his usual drivel of "I just had sex have you guys ever sexed anyone sexy with sex before?"

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C_da_Neptune
11/13/23 8:58:35 AM
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I (Butters) like immigration and think we should have open borders.

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Zwijn
11/13/23 9:02:51 AM
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The language thing depends on country I think. A lot of immigrants in Europe dont speak the native language but for some places thats not an issue. Dutch people are a step away from hating their own language and will grab any excuse to speak English, which in turn also doesnt help immigrants with learning Dutch. Some idiots like me fully speak English with certain groups and people who do still speak Dutch increasingly use English words to the point of half-half sentences. I think some European languages will disappear soon or at least have a Singapore scenario going on for them.
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Glob
11/13/23 9:50:10 AM
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GunmaN1905 posted...
Everything needs to have a balance. Same goes for immigration.

Zwijn made a pretty good post. At the moment in Europe feels like immigrants are more important than domestic population in a lot of countries.

Refugees should always be allowed, but a lot of immigrants disguise themselves as refugees when they actually aren't. And they come to Europe from countries that have no ongoing conflicts. And very few get turned back.

Just last week I was in Vienna for a couple of days due to work, haven't been there in a while. Walked all across the city and there's maybe 20-30% German I heard. Multiculturalism is one thing, but when immigrants want to take over, that's another. But if you say anything about growing crime rate because of certain demographic, you're instantly labelled a racist.

I'd personally kick out anyone from any country if they aren't fluent in that language after 3 years.
Any serious crime should also mean instant deportation.

That seems a bit arbitrary. It would also result in a number of my friends being deported for no good reason.
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Dark_Arbron
11/13/23 10:07:05 AM
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As long as you speak the language well enough to perform your job or studies, it's fine.

And any immigrant in my country who speaks even a little English is already ahead of me (who only speaks English and nothing more than a cursory word or two of some others) so that isn't coming from a condescending position. I'd hold myself to exactly the same standard if I were working customer service in Germany.

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Glob
11/13/23 10:20:50 AM
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Dark_Arbron posted...
As long as you speak the language well enough to perform your job or studies, it's fine.

And any immigrant in my country who speaks even a little English is already ahead of me (who only speaks English and nothing more than a cursory word or two of some others) so that isn't coming from a condescending position. I'd hold myself to exactly the same standard if I were working customer service in Germany.

In my role, it is not necessary to speak the local language at all. Im still learning it, but you dont need to.
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