Current Events > "The Marvels" final trailer. Desperate and cringe?!?

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I don't get why they didn't include Rogue in this. When this was first announced, that's what I figured would happen.

archedsoul posted...

I don't get why they didn't include Rogue in this. When this was first announced, that's what I figured would happen.

Because mutants still haven't officially been introduced in the mcu. They sort of hinted to mutants in the Ms Marvel show. But it wasn't like we saw the xmen or heard about the mutant gene and politics between Homo Sapiens and Homo Superiors

I think they just said Kamala might be a mutant and they played the xmen theme music when that happened. Rogue popping up would not make sense within the universe setting yet. Technically mutants don't exist yet. Or they will be said later to have been in hiding

Also rogue isn't even the biggest character left out in MCU Carol's story

They skipped the original Captain Marvel and changed how Carol got her powers. She's the first Captain Marvel in the mcu. In the comics she is the 3rd Captain Marvel I think technically

Zikten posted...

Because mutants still haven't officially been introduced in the mcu.

Yeah, that was my point. They could have introduced her as a character to later build up to the X-Men and mutants like they originally did with the MCU and the Avengers.

Phase 4 and 5 could have been full of slowly introducing some of the X-Men. Storm could have easily been in Black Panther 2.

Zikten posted...

Because mutants still haven't officially been introduced in the mcu. They sort of hinted to mutants in the Ms Marvel show. But it wasn't like we saw the xmen or heard about the mutant gene and politics between Homo Sapiens and Homo Superiors

You should watch MoM

Were_Wyrm posted...

You should watch MoM

Oh yea. But that was in a different universe. I mean in the main one there are no mutants yet

Well Kamala IS a mutant so i wouldn't be shocked if they imply/tease something huge with her 2nd appearance

Is it just me or does Disney not give two shits about the Fox-verse, not like just not caring but they actively have thrown dirt on that universe between the Ralph Bohnner joke for Quicksilver and killing off Prof. X in Multiverse of Madness just seems tasteless, before we even have a new X-Men they seem treat the old one pretty unfairly

archedsoul posted...

Yeah, that was my point. They could have introduced her as a character to later build up to the X-Men and mutants like they originally did with the MCU and the Avengers.

Phase 4 and 5 could have been full of slowly introducing some of the X-Men. Storm could have easily been in Black Panther 2.

I actually had this idea, long ago, that they could introduce one mutant character in each movie in Phase 4 (I think my idea was Storm in BP2, Rogue in CM2, Iceman in MCU Spidey 3) with all the mutant characters joining together in X-Men which would be treated like the big Avengers team up. This was before details of any of those movie were known tho.

This trailer was not bad. I liked the seriousness of it. More Marvel movies need to have more stakes. Although the villain feels like they took a twitch streamer and have her cosplay :/

Zikten posted...

Oh yea. But that was in a different universe. I mean in the main one there are no mutants yet

Kamala and Namor are both mutants

Hornezz posted...

Kamala and Namor are both mutants

I know. I read the comics. But it hasn't been fully explained yet in the mcu. To non comic readers

To make it clearer, I'm saying the idea of Marvel mutants as we understand them hasn't fully been unveiled yet

Gamespoht posted...

Well Kamala IS a mutant so i wouldn't be shocked if they imply/tease something huge with her 2nd appearance

Is it just me or does Disney not give two shits about the Fox-verse, not like just not caring but they actively have thrown dirt on that universe between the Ralph Bohnner joke for Quicksilver and killing off Prof. X in Multiverse of Madness just seems tasteless, before we even have a new X-Men they seem treat the old one pretty unfairly

Deadpool 3 will (apparently) be a big Fox-verse send-off.

mehmeh1 posted...

I agree with the lack of a plan being stupid,but killing off/retiring the characters was the best move. Actors wanted to move on, and storylines needed to come to a close. Issue is they fell flat moving forward and all their attempts at a new lead failed. CM got bank but the character herself didn't end up tol popular, Boseman passed so any plans for BP went away with him (despite AFAIK him being fine with a recast), and Spidey is in legal hell so it'll probably be hard to make him the face of the series

Characters retiring or their storys coming to a close(permanently) are not things in comics, they go on infinitely. So frankly they should have been prepared to replace the actors eventually. Despite what the fans would think or say.

Not just for the heroes but villains also, killing them all off in one off storys was a dumb decision thats screwing them over hard now.

I know this seems crazy compared to most other fanchises but thats just how comics are. And if marvel wasnt willing to commit to that then it should have ended after endgame. Actually the soft reboot should have been the first thing they did after the break.

mehmeh1 posted...

I agree with the lack of a plan being stupid,but killing off/retiring the characters was the best move. Actors wanted to move on, and storylines needed to come to a close. Issue is they fell flat moving forward and all their attempts at a new lead failed. CM got bank but the character herself didn't end up tol popular, Boseman passed so any plans for BP went away with him (despite AFAIK him being fine with a recast), and Spidey is in legal hell so it'll probably be hard to make him the face of the series

Fantastic 4
X-Men
Deadpool/X-Force/Alpha Flight

They have everything they need. But I want to see and listen to GOOD stories from writers and actors who are being paid what they're due.

We had to wait a long time to see these kinds of movies finally start realizing their potential. I can wait a little longer for these movies. Marvel just did too much, too quickly after Endgame.

What the Fuck

Starts off with a desperate flash back to more liked characters that have literally nothing to do with this movie

The whole body swap isn't even mentioned or shown

Implying that this new jobber of the week villain is the new thanos

Cap and Tony have more screen time than Kamala

Well the trailer is more effective at hype than previous ones.

It also tells me that theyre not sure of having Kamala onboard so gotta cut her screentime.

Trailer is good, but I agree that its very transparent about its manipulation.

ai123 posted...

They're shamelessly using trailers to try and get people to watch movies now?

Does the woke corruption of Hollywood know no bounds?

As of your post, no one in your post is complaining about this movie being woke. Perhaps you're preempting the inevitable whining from the YouTube losers though?

Zikten posted...

Oh and we still don't know who the villain is exactly or what her goal is

Does it matter? Aside from Loki, Thanos, and Kang, do any of the Marvel villains matter? They're rarely developed as characters in their own right and most of them exist for the sole purpose of giving the heroes something to punch.

BakonBitz posted...

Nah, I watched and enjoyed Captain Marvel, didn't understand why Brie was so hated.

She was hated because there are a lot of losers on YouTube who make money pandering to misogynists.

Yeah, it's funny how Thanos singlehandedly made everyone forget that the MCU was routinely chided for having shitty undercooked villains for the better part of a decade.

Pikachuchupika posted...

This trailer was not bad. I liked the seriousness of it. More Marvel movies need to have more stakes. Although the villain feels like they took a twitch streamer and have her cosplay :/

That's part of the problem with the trailer, though. Anyone whose watched these movies already knows it won't be serious and that the stakes will be irrelevant. Disney's been following the same formula for too long for us to suspect this one's going to be any different than the rest.

Gritty posted...

I literally have no idea why they kept making any of these shitty movies after endgame

Because they make anywhere from 500 million to 2 billion each time? Thats a pretty good reason

I reckon this will be a middling film but introduce some stuff around the X-Men so people will love it for that but hate the film.

masterpug53 posted...

Yeah, it's funny how Thanos singlehandedly made everyone forget that the MCU was routinely chided for having shitty undercooked villains for the better part of a decade.

And it's been right back to business immediately after Endgame

Last villain that made an impression was Kang I guess but unfortunately that's going nowhere after all that's happened

Gamespoht posted...

And it's been right back to business immediately after Endgame

Last villain that made an impression was Kang I guess but unfortunately that's going nowhere after all that's happened

The High Evolutionary in Guardians 3 was amazing as a villain

I never thought I'd hear someone in the MCU say "There is no God! That's why I stepped in!"

Gamespoht posted...

And it's been right back to business immediately after Endgame

Last villain that made an impression was Kang I guess but unfortunately that's going nowhere after all that's happened

Nah.

Zemo, namor, high evolutionary and even the kangs we have gotten ahve been pretty great. Heck I even liked gorr

IceCreamOnStero posted...

Audiences are smart enough to notice what's happening here, and even if they weren't I think the Endgame goodwill wore off after like 3 shows

As someone that doesn't consume these properties, What is happening here?

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Marvel bad and tiring is now a tiring take in itself.

Torgo posted...

As someone that doesn't consume these properties, What is happening here?

Throwing in Iron Man, Cap and Thanos in the trailer in a desperate attempt to get people to see the movie despite the fact none of them will show up.

Torgo posted...

As someone that doesn't consume these properties, What is happening here?

tl;dr: The MCU spent over a decade from their first movie up to a movie called Endgame following a cohesive journey revolving around a core group of heroes, a key villain, and their stories. Those stories concluded in Endgame. This "saga" as it's called is generally viewed with extreme favor, to the point where two of the movies (Infinity War and Endgame) are like top 10 all time box office movies. Everyone knows Thanos, the dusting, Iron Man... even if you can't name them, you've seen them.

Endgame in 2019 effectively concluded that saga, closing a number of chapters on a number of likeable and memorable characters.

Fast forward to late 2023. This trailer opens with clips and dialogue of characters from that Endgame period to try and recapture some of the joy that has since been lost in recent MCU features. This comes across as extremely desperate.

tl;dr tl;dr: New trailer is trying to bank on a popular movie from four years ago to try and attract viewership when there really is zero reason to reference it at this point.

Torgo posted...

As someone that doesn't consume these properties, What is happening here?

Nothing is happening out of the ordinary.

Internet incels and misonygynst have hated this character inexplicably for about ten years and are praying this movie fails because that means they "win" something.

They also hate brie Larson, also inexplicably, so they are hoping this affects her career as well.

MatzoTov posted...

tl;dr: The MCU spent over a decade from their first movie up to a movie called Endgame following a cohesive journey revolving around a core group of heroes, a key villain, and their stories. Those stories concluded in Endgame. This "saga" as it's called is generally viewed with extreme favor, to the point where two of the movies (Infinity War and Endgame) are like top 10 all time box office movies. Everyone knows Thanos, the dusting, Iron Man... even if you can't name them, you've seen them.

Endgame in 2019 effectively concluded that saga, closing a number of chapters on a number of likeable and memorable characters.

Fast forward to late 2023. This trailer opens with clips and dialogue of characters from that Endgame period to try and recapture some of the joy that has since been lost in recent MCU features. This comes across as extremely desperate.

tl;dr tl;dr: New trailer is trying to bank on a popular movie from four years ago to try and attract viewership when there really is zero reason to reference it at this point.

There's a ton of reason to reference it, to remind casual audiences of what this character last did and what she was up to around that time lol...

They did this same time type of trailer various times. They showed Thor and iron man in a shang chi trailer iirc.

Its basic advertising, and this trailer would've been cut ages ago so it has nothing to do with desperation. Its reminding audiences who aren't knee deep in this stuff "hey remember what this character did 5 years ago? She's back"

I thoroughly enjoyed the first Captain Marvel movie for what it was (a Marvel movie, that is) but this looks like dog shit. Also the Ms. Marvel actress is annoying af in all of the trailers, which I acknowledge is a "me" problem because that character is definitely aimed for young teens. But she's basically the Scrappy Doo of this movie.

Why'd they backtrack on Captain Marvel's hair? I loved the short look.

Toonstrack posted...

They showed Thor and iron man in a shang chi trailer iirc.

I can only seem to find the one trailer but they aren't in that one -- is there another one?

The issue with Endgame is that MCU Execs wrote themselves into a corner where actors long term contracts meant that they needed to conclude their stories, but they need to also explains new plots later

Movie Goers had no reason to watch future stories of the MCU. Which MCU mean had to start with scratch.

Perlmutter stupid decision to devalue F4 and X-men is going bite them in the ass.

I liked Carol Danvers better when she was Warbird.

Wake me up when the X-Men arrive.

This looks kinda shit not gonna lie

Looks bad but Ill probably still watch it, just not opening weekend.

Who the fuck is this villain even supposed to be? I never heard of her.

The actress is Tom Hiddleston's wife. He couldn't get something better for her?

kind of amused for the MCU's "flop" era. No interest in seeing this movie ngl, they just don't have the star power to put butts in seats. Reminding people she was in endgame is a lulzy move tho

Akagami_Shanks posted...

kind of amused for the MCU's "flop" era. No interest in seeing this movie ngl, they just don't have the star power to put butts in seats. Reminding people she was in endgame is a lulzy move tho

NWH made 2 billion

DS2 made 930 mil

L&T made 750 mil

WF made 850 mil

Quantumania is the only one even coming close to a fail, making 500m

Guardians 3 did 870 mil

"Flop era" lmao

ZevLoveDOOM posted...

looks like another generic CGI superhero movie.

I still don't understand how these movies can be so expensive and look so bad.

xlr_big-coop posted...

I still don't understand how these movies can be so expensive and look so bad.

Inflated marketing?

xlr_big-coop posted...

I still don't understand how these movies can be so expensive and look so bad.

bloated CGI costs+crunch due to assembly line production so the CGI looks like ass

Bump

the most cringe thing about this movie will be the legion of sweaty neckbeards bitching and complaining about "girl power" and "wokeness". it's like a tradition at this point...

Toonstrack posted...

NWH made 2 billion

DS2 made 930 mil

L&T made 750 mil

WF made 850 mil

Quantumania is the only one even coming close to a fail, making 500m

Guardians 3 did 870 mil

"Flop era" lmao

Everything you listed was a pre-Endgame and well-loved property. They're swiftly moving away from that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-KVfHQRonM

Marvels so desperate, they've recruited Hololive.

Eab1990 posted...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-KVfHQRonM

Marvels so desperate, they've recruited Hololive.

I have no idea what they are saying, but Hololive is fast becoming a powerful force in pop culture. And I love how Korone keeps getting these endorsement projects. She also worked with Sonic Frontier. In the Japanese version of the game, some tiny little creatures look different I think and are based on a creation of her's