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A_Good_Boy
11/09/23 9:57:32 PM
#152:


gamepimp12 posted...
not to say work is degrading or anything. Cause thats not my view, I typically enjoy my job and Im very good at it.

But so many people leave money on the table or dont take advantage of every opportunity given to you by your employer.

people have a habit of giving 110% to their job and being okay with only getting 80% back.
I wouldn't say that leveraging a grace period to fuck around and watch some shows or stuff your face is an opportunity worth taking advantage of. You spent all your time asking if you could but you didn't spend any time asking if you should.

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gamepimp12
11/09/23 10:01:21 PM
#153:


A_Good_Boy posted...
I wouldn't say that leveraging a grace period to fuck around and watch some shows or stuff your face is an opportunity worth taking advantage of. You spent all your time asking if you could but you didn't spend any time asking if you should.

I wasnt really speaking towards myself I was speaking in general.

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Its the fact I intentionally did it that bothers them. I should of been at my desk ready to give the company 150% 10 minutes before my shift.


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pnut027
11/09/23 10:02:42 PM
#154:


PiOverlord posted...
A few minutes late doesn't kill anyone. Management is always the enemy.

Stand with the workers always or you are never standing with them.
Showing up on time *IS* standing with the workers.

Your coworkers are the ones who have to take on your work when you decide to fuck around.

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PiOverlord
11/09/23 10:05:28 PM
#155:


pnut027 posted...
Showing up on time *IS* standing with the workers.

Your coworkers are the ones who have to take on your work when you decide to fuck around.
No, 3 minutes doesn't destroy your co-workers.

And this is propaganda from the billion-dollar corporations who would rather see us fight one another than the true enemies that is them.

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gamepimp12
11/09/23 10:07:13 PM
#156:


pnut027 posted...
Showing up on time *IS* standing with the workers.

Your coworkers are the ones who have to take on your work when you decide to fuck around.

My coworkers literally thought it was a 5 minute grace period as well.

After I was fired I stuck a round for like an hour filing the appeal and just shopped and talked multiple people flat out said, well shit Im next then.

The manager who told me it was a grade period literally said after I got fired, I thought you could do that.

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A_Good_Boy
11/09/23 10:10:25 PM
#157:


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I don't think TC showing up late is what makes him a good or bad employee. I fuck around with my attendance too. It's more like the fact that TC is having several conversations with his managers over his attendance, and despite all that he's not learning his lesson and showing up to work on time. He's on his bosses radar and he's not wise enough to shape up for long enough to get off it. Instead of digging through the rulebook or cross referencing statements from his bosses so he could look for ways to sidestep his issues, he should have been trying to make the efforts to improve his attendance long enough for his bosses to overlook him. TC fucked around and he found out. Hopefully everything he's saying is true and he actually does have another job lined up though. It's still shitty he got fired, but the warning signs were there and TC ignored them.

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Blackestmage
11/09/23 10:14:07 PM
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Didn't read the 16 pages but does TC can make a deal and have decent references for a future job ?

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gamepimp12
11/09/23 10:15:27 PM
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Another anecdotal story just prove that managements miscommunication has consistently been an issue and they dont put paper work in correctly.

if I win my appeal, Ill be the fourth person to win an appeal in this store in the last 3 years, second in the last 6 months or so.

with one management sent a job abandonment letter to someone without checking that they were on a leave of absence. (to be exact. his leave of absence got denied, and thus expired early but no one actually got in contact with him to tell it expired or got denied he only found out when he came home to a letter.)

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A_Good_Boy
11/09/23 10:17:54 PM
#161:


gamepimp12 posted...
Another anecdotal story just prove that managements miscommunication has consistently been an issue and they dont put paper work in correctly.

if I win my appeal, Ill be the fourth person to win an appeal in this store in the last 3 years, second in the last 6 months or so.

with one management sent a job abandonment letter to someone without checking that they were on a leave of absence. (to be exact. his leave of absence got denied, and thus expired early but no one actually got in contact with him to tell it expired or got denied he only found out when he came home to a letter.)
This job doesn't seem like it's worth it. Management is horrible there.

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pnut027
11/09/23 10:25:24 PM
#162:


PiOverlord posted...
No, 3 minutes doesn't destroy your co-workers.

And this is propaganda from the billion-dollar corporations who would rather see us fight one another than the true enemies that is them.
  1. If youre scheduled to unlock the store for customers and are late, now someone else has to be pulled from their job to do yours, and get back to their own work.
  2. If youre scheduled to give a presentation to an international client whose culture values promptness and can damage your relationship, but you show up late, now someone has to fill in for you.
  3. If you have clients who made an appointment, and youre late, someone else has to take time from their client to greet your and get them situated.


  1. I waited outside of a Target for 10 minutes until someone who was doing inventory finally opened the door. The poor guy bitched the whole way because the jerk didnt just disappeared and he had to take time from his own work.
  2. We had to brief a Japanese colonel on how we were planning to maneuver our aircraft for a large air show that was coming in. The superintendent was late coming in so I had to do a crash on the slides and pretty much stall until he came walking in.
  3. My wife makes her hair appointments months in advance. If she is late or a no-show, she would have to pay a fee. The girl she went to would regularly show up 15-20 minutes late. Another girl from one of the other studios would have to stop with her client, get my wife situated and then tend back to her own client. My wife finally moved on when she decided to loc her hair.


You being late affects your boss less than it does your clients/customers and the people who have to pick up your slack.

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gamepimp12
11/09/23 10:31:58 PM
#163:


A_Good_Boy posted...
I don't think TC showing up late is what makes him a good or bad employee. I fuck around with my attendance too. It's more like the fact that TC is having several conversations with his managers over his attendance, and despite all that he's not learning his lesson and showing up to work on time. He's on his bosses radar and he's not wise enough to shape up for long enough to get off it. Instead of digging through the rulebook or cross referencing statements from his bosses so he could look for ways to sidestep his issues, he should have been trying to make the efforts to improve his attendance long enough for his bosses to overlook him. TC fucked around and he found out. Hopefully everything he's saying is true and he actually does have another job lined up though. It's still shitty he got fired, but the warning signs were there and TC ignored them.

your still missing context, my initial attendance issues popped up in July/early august, due to a living arrangement that was influx. It was documented why I was struggling, it was also documented that I contacted the employee help line and got very little help.

from early august to the the start of October, In multiple meetings with the same two managers I was told I had no attendance trends and that I was fine.

Im informed by a 3rd manager its a grace period on lunchs, and a 4th manager says that they been hearing this as well. This is something thats typically managements discretion and with new management its believable

last two weeks of October, Im late twice due to traffic. And have 2 lunches that while late are within the grace period.

a 5th manager bubbles my attendance up to HR, cause of my Late lunches, without asking all of management what was said (2 of 9managers)

I complain to manager 1,2 and manager 6 about this and they say its out of there hands now that its been bubbled up but all agree I was never told I was in immediate risk of being fired due to attendance.

HR auto fires me

Manager 6 gets the news is pissed and has to fire me herself, manager 6 who is second in command immediately helps me file the appeal paper work

I chill around with everybody for a minutes before going home manager 3 says again, that she thought it was within the rules.

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StealThisSheen
11/09/23 10:33:58 PM
#164:


gamepimp12 posted...
And why I was late has nothing to do

Why you were late has everything to do with it, because it fills in details about what kind of worker you are, that we normally wouldn't have.

If you admit to being late atleast two times a month just to finish a TV show, then it leaves us to question what other silly reasons you may have been late for. It shows you don't truly value work, and shows that you're willing to try to cut corners for small things (such as "I want to finish this TV show), no matter what.

So, yes. Fair, next.

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Guide
11/09/23 10:38:04 PM
#165:


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Depends on how occasional is occasional. It is understandable to pick up the slack for, say, an emergency or a plain bad day, but just being late as a habit is rude.

I'm not saying this of tc, his case seems pretty cleanly in his favor.

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PiOverlord
11/09/23 10:40:38 PM
#166:


pnut027 posted...
1. If youre scheduled to unlock the store for customers and are late, now someone else has to be pulled from their job to do yours, and get back to their own work.
2. If youre scheduled to give a presentation to an international client whose culture values promptness and can damage your relationship, but you show up late, now someone has to fill in for you.
3. If you have clients who made an appointment, and youre late, someone else has to take time from their client to greet your and get them situated.

1. I waited outside of a Target for 10 minutes until someone who was doing inventory finally opened the door. The poor guy bitched the whole way because the jerk didnt just disappeared and he had to take time from his own work.
2. We had to brief a Japanese colonel on how we were planning to maneuver our aircraft for a large air show that was coming in. The superintendent was late coming in so I had to do a crash on the slides and pretty much stall until he came walking in.
3. My wife makes her hair appointments months in advance. If she is late or a no-show, she would have to pay a fee. The girl she went to would regularly show up 15-20 minutes late. Another girl from one of the other studios would have to stop with her client, get my wife situated and then tend back to her own client. My wife finally moved on when she decided to loc her hair.

You being late affects your boss less than it does your clients/customers and the people who have to pick up your slack.
Holy rube goldberg. Why are you working for a billionaire that is stealing from you when you could be using that creativity to create some very interesting stories?

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gamepimp12
11/09/23 10:40:46 PM
#167:


A_Good_Boy posted...
This job doesn't seem like it's worth it. Management is horrible there.

its really just manager number 5, previously he was not allowed to discipline anyone because he kept fucking it up so bad, he was actually getting in trouble.

at one point he was following a specific employee around on camera and documenting everything they did wrong to make a lowlight tape to report back with. While you can use the camera to discipline, your not allowed to save things up like he was doing. Nor are you supposed to be using the camera to actively look for mistakes, he was doing both. (For example watching tape of the store before opening or after closing its no reason to randomly watch that tape)


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gamepimp12
11/09/23 10:43:29 PM
#168:


StealThisSheen posted...
Why you were late has everything to do with it, because it fills in details about what kind of worker you are, that we normally wouldn't have.

If you admit to being late atleast two times a month just to finish a TV show, then it leaves us to question what other silly reasons you may have been late for. It shows you don't truly value work, and shows that you're willing to try to cut corners for small things (such as "I want to finish this TV show), no matter what.

So, yes. Fair, next.

why are you still responding to me, I told you you where being disingenuous and I have no interest in continuing this.

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Guide
11/09/23 10:46:37 PM
#169:


PiOverlord posted...
Holy rube goldberg. Why are you working for a billionaire that is stealing from you when you could be using that creativity to create some very interesting stories?

Everyone who works retail knows that they're being ripped off. You're not saying anything even remotely aware.

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OmegaVideoGameG
11/09/23 10:51:22 PM
#170:


gamepimp12 posted...
Long story short i work for a billion dollar business that has out of state HR. I was pulled in the office and fired yesterday for an attendance infraction. This came directly from HR. Basically my employee log states ive had multiple conversations about my attendance in the last 6 months.

But the actual conversations centered around my attendance have all either been good, or centered around a miscommunication that came from store level management. Which my direct mangers have all co-signed.

So now Im basically on standby for at least the next week while the appeal process goes through.

that really sucks Ive always believed certain companies try to fire people so they could keep the company profits.

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pnut027
11/09/23 10:52:46 PM
#171:


PiOverlord posted...
Holy rube goldberg. Why are you working for a billionaire that is stealing from you when you could be using that creativity to create some very interesting stories?
I bet youre one of those smokers who sees nothing wrong with smoking half the shift while everyone else does your work.

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gamepimp12
11/09/23 10:55:04 PM
#172:


OmegaVideoGameG posted...
that really sucks Ive always believed certain companies try to fire people so they could keep the company profits.


Ehhh its not really the company as much as it is most management is split 50/50 about if they have youre best interest in mind, and not even on some you vs the company shit, but actively choosing not to do little things they can and should be doing.

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PiOverlord
11/09/23 10:55:08 PM
#173:


pnut027 posted...
I bet youre one of those smokers who sees nothing wrong with smoking half the shift while everyone else does your work.
No because I view smoking in a very negative light.

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gamepimp12
11/09/23 10:56:09 PM
#174:


pnut027 posted...
I bet youre one of those smokers who sees nothing wrong with smoking half the shift while everyone else does your work.

and youre the employee no one actually likes to be around.

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pnut027
11/09/23 10:57:31 PM
#175:


gamepimp12 posted...
and youre the employee no one actually likes to be around.
Hey, as long as it doesnt affect my pay.

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OmegaVideoGameG
11/09/23 10:58:27 PM
#176:


gamepimp12 posted...
Ehhh its not really the company as much as it is most management is split 50/50 about if they have youre best interest in mind, and not even on some you vs the company shit, but actively choosing not to do little things they can and should be doing.

Wow I forgot to explain what else I meant, I work in advertising, mind you, I build websites and design them and I also translate a bunch of languages for many others. I couldnt begin to tell you how much fraud I see certain companies get away with its absolute madness.

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gamepimp12
11/09/23 11:01:23 PM
#177:


Just another management story, despite complaining about it for to my old store manager, my new store manager and my district manager almost a year and directly asking for things to be placed in it. My performance log has nothing positive in it going back to around February, Despite the fact I have multiple individual metrics that match the entire stores metrics.

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pnut027
11/09/23 11:20:36 PM
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Very brave of them.

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ablegator
11/09/23 11:24:32 PM
#180:


I wouldnt take the metrics of an organization where they dont care if you show up for work seriously.

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gamepimp12
11/09/23 11:28:39 PM
#181:


ablegator posted...
I wouldnt take the metrics of an organization where they dont care if you show up for work seriously.

If I was leading the district being 3 minutes late from lunch, imagine what I could do with that extra 3 minutes

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ablegator
11/09/23 11:31:09 PM
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They dont have clear policy or records. Who knows what your actual metrics were.

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11/10/23 12:12:47 AM
#183:


ablegator posted...
They dont have clear policy or records. Who knows what your actual metrics were.


ablegator posted...
Why be stupid? Does it make you happy to be stupid?


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kage_53
11/10/23 12:12:55 AM
#184:


lol

The amount of shilling people in this thread people do for companies is hilarious. If store leadership says there is a 5 minute grace period, you dont need to punch in on time. As long as its within 5 minutes, its fine. if anything, Id say people in this thread are jealous their workplace might not offer that.
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MartavisBryant
11/10/23 12:18:16 AM
#185:


kage_53 posted...
lol

The amount of shilling people in this thread people do for companies is hilarious. If store leadership says there is a 5 minute grace period, you dont need to punch in on time. As long as its within 5 minutes, its fine. if anything, Id say people in this thread are jealous their workplace might not offer that.
I guess it depends on what your job entails. For my work, one employee being late directly impacts everyone else.

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kage_53
11/10/23 12:21:04 AM
#186:


MartavisBryant posted...
I guess it depends on what your job entails. For my work, one employee being late directly impacts everyone else.

If there is a grace period, it is not considered late. I worked in a retail company before and we could punch in up to 5 minutes before our scheduled shift and up to 5 minutes past our scheduled shift. Nobody ever got in trouble for it.

If op had an 8 am shift but punched in at 8:06, he would be late. Anything before that is not late.
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KI_Simpson
11/10/23 12:27:19 AM
#187:


How many of the people mocking TC for supposedly not taking their job seriously enough were earlier in the topic mocking them because they assumed they worked at McDonald's or Wal-Mart?

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StealThisSheen
11/10/23 12:28:38 AM
#188:


KI_Simpson posted...
How many of the people mocking TC for supposedly not taking their job seriously enough were earlier in the topic mocking them because they assumed they worked at McDonald's or Wal-Mart?

The dude literally admitted he's late atleast twice a month because "I want to finish a TV show sometimes."

I mean, c'mon. That deserves atleast SOME scrutiny.

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kage_53
11/10/23 12:34:46 AM
#189:


StealThisSheen posted...
The dude literally admitted he's late atleast twice a month because "I want to finish a TV show sometimes."

I mean, c'mon. That deserves atleast SOME scrutiny.

Why would it? Store management said there is a grace period so hes not late.
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Balnazarr
11/10/23 12:43:09 AM
#190:


kage_53 posted...
Why would it? Store management said there is a grace period so hes not late.

Store Mgmt don't know their ass from their mouth. All that's important is what the Corporate Policy is. A billion dollar company will have an attendance policy.
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StealThisSheen
11/10/23 12:43:59 AM
#191:


kage_53 posted...
Why would it? Store management said there is a grace period so hes not late.

The entire story is suspect, to be honest.

According to the TC, he was consistently late multiple times, but store management told him it was okay. But then he was fired for being late, with HR saying he was late, and he even says not all local management told him it was okay, some said it wasn't, and they even put down reasons for his lateness on his file, indicating it wasn't actually okay, but they were making exceptions. But then even later, he says it didn't actually ever matter why he was late, which contradicts what he said earlier.

And now he's saying he is apparently working for another company, or knows of another company, or something, that... Doesn't care if he's late or even shows up? (though I think he admitted this was just trolling.)

None of it makes any sense, so all I can do is judge him on what he's saying. And when he's admitting that he often doesn't even have a good reason for being late, just reasons like "I wanted to finish watching the show I was watching," well...

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gamepimp12
11/10/23 12:53:18 AM
#192:


Boy hes been arguing me down about that whole situation and is still being disingenuous about it.

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StealThisSheen
11/10/23 12:54:04 AM
#193:


gamepimp12 posted...
Boy hes been arguing me down about that whole situation and is still being disingenuous about it.

What have I said that's disingenuous? I'm literally only repeating what you have said, so if anything is disingenuous, then it's because you weren't genuine in saying it.

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KI_Simpson
11/10/23 12:58:42 AM
#194:


Balnazarr posted...
Store Mgmt don't know their ass from their mouth. All that's important is what the Corporate Policy is. A billion dollar company will have an attendance policy.
So you think the store manager is the one who should be fired, right?

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gamepimp12
11/10/23 1:05:30 AM
#195:


Ive literally posted an exact timeline of what happened and youre still not only getting information wrong, but when explaining it to other peoples interjecting your own opinion, (for example I never said I was consistently late multiple times)

this is the last time Im responding to you.

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ArsGoetia
11/10/23 1:06:58 AM
#196:


kage_53 posted...
Id say people in this thread are jealous their workplace might not offer that.

are there that many people here still punching a clock?

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gamepimp12
11/10/23 1:08:53 AM
#197:


KI_Simpson posted...
So you think the store manager is the one who should be fired, right?

honestly he almost got fired for this kinda stuff in the past.

he used to text other managers and give them his write ups so he can get around the fact he was no longer allowed to punish people.

but I dont think anyone should get fired, its just a joke that i can say a department manager said it, and he only ask one of the 4 department managers and reports back that no one said it.

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pnut027
11/10/23 1:09:06 AM
#198:


KI_Simpson posted...
So you think the store manager is the one who should be fired, right?
And TC.

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gamepimp12
11/10/23 1:10:16 AM
#199:


pnut027 posted...
And TC.

so you think management should be fired for fumbling policy like that ? Thats interesting why is that.

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pnut027
11/10/23 1:12:52 AM
#200:


KI_Simpson posted...
How many of the people mocking TC for supposedly not taking their job seriously enough were earlier in the topic mocking them because they assumed they worked at McDonald's or Wal-Mart?
Eh, Im on a flex schedule. As per our handbook, I can swing my shift by 2 hours around my core start time or make up time as long as I hit 80 hours per pay period if I have something to do and dont want to burn PTO.

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