Current Events > I got fired yesterday cause of likely incorrect paper work.

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Long story short i work for a billion dollar business that has out of state HR. I was pulled in the office and fired yesterday for an attendance infraction. This came directly from HR. Basically my employee log states ive had multiple conversations about my attendance in the last 6 months.

But the actual conversations centered around my attendance have all either been good, or centered around a miscommunication that came from store level management. Which my direct mangers have all co-signed.

So now Im basically on standby for at least the next week while the appeal process goes through.

That's balls, dude(tte). I'd fight that mother fucker and get some punitive compensation if you can prove it.

What is an attendance infraction? Is that fancy speak for not showing up to work when scheduled? Sick day? What does that mean?

you have an appeals process? must be nice

here, its "ya done, bye" and out the door

archizzy posted...

What is an attendance infraction? Is that fancy speak for not showing up to work when scheduled? Sick day? What does that mean?

This. More context would help us understand better.

archizzy posted...

What is an attendance infraction? Is that fancy speak for not showing up to work when scheduled? Sick day? What does that mean?

Not calling in or showing up in a selected amount of time.

archizzy posted...

What is an attendance infraction? Is that fancy speak for not showing up to work when scheduled? Sick day? What does that mean?

showing up late. Less than 10 minutes late and coming back from lunch less than 10 minutes Late.

it was previously documented I had a change multiple changes in living arrangements in the last 5 months that I was struggling to adjust to and it was also documented that I contacted the employee help line and I didnt get actual help from them.

it was also incorrectly stated by local management what the exact attendance policy was, and a another local manager put in my file that I was wrong without asking all of local management (right after I was given the paper work a manager said I thought you could do that)

Bump

Damn dude, that is some enhanced bullshit. Hope it goes well for you in the end.

are you in an at-will state?

will you get back pay?

Good luck on the appeal. I'd suggest having a ba back up plan in order, management can be blind to nuanced situations.

Hope this gets sorted and also doesn't carry any bad blood with it.

Is this place Walmart by chance?

Fluttershy posted...

are you in an at-will state?

Yes

AlCalavicci posted...

will you get back pay?

probably not, but Im not real concerned about that Im more concerned about not losing my benefits

LincolnDuncan posted...

Good luck on the appeal. I'd suggest having a ba back up plan in order, management can be blind to nuanced situations.

yeah, if my local management didnt have my back Id feel a lot worse about this. But theyve been supporting me about it before it happened so I feel decent about it.

JoeySlasherVSPS posted...

Is this place Walmart by chance?

Nope.

KaZooo posted...

Hope this gets sorted and also doesn't carry any bad blood with it.

considering no one in the store actually fired me. I dont see why its be bad blood. It was a series of miscommunications between management and myself.

Did you get the memo about the TPS reports?

MICHALECOLE posted...

Did you get the memo about the TPS reports?

Haha, I just rewatched that last week yet again.

MICHALECOLE posted...

Did you get the memo about the TPS reports?

im assuming this is from a movie Ive never seen

gamepimp12 posted...

im assuming this is from a movie Ive never seen

Office Space. An absolute classic.

So you couldnt get to work on time and got fired for it?

mustang93 posted...

So you couldnt get to work on time and got fired for it?

Yes but.

To be more exact. I was told my attendance was fine and then was fired for it 3 weeks later with no
discussion in between there, due to a miscommunication that wasnt properly investigated.

What is your job exactly?

Flauros posted...

What is your job exactly?

thats not relevant

This is the boring dystopia we are living in.

gamepimp12 posted...

thats not relevant

Kinda is, to determine if its a job worth fighting for or if you should cut bait and be a bag boy somewhere else.

So HR was "automating" firings and saw enough attendance issues in your record to go ahead with it, despite the reasons or agreements already in place by local management?

So to be clear, you WERE in fact showing up late to work on multiple occasions?

gamepimp12 posted...

thats not relevant

You work at McDonald's

TimeForAction posted...

you have an appeals process? must be nice

here, its "ya done, bye" and out the door

But also at your work your boss probably knows why they fired you instead of being like "well the algorithm says you should be fired."

Fluttershy posted...

are you in an at-will state?

Never understood the point of this question, isnt it just 3 or 4 states that are not at will?

Flauros posted...

Kinda is, to determine if its a job worth fighting for or if you should cut bait and be a bag boy somewhere else.

So I could probably find a better straight up job money wise, but because of the time I have in the company, I have certain benefits that will be very hard to replaced.

JuanCarlos1 posted...

So HR was "automating" firings and saw enough attendance issues in your record to go ahead with it, despite the reasons or agreements already in place by local management?

Basically, my file says that Ive been in multiple meetings about my attendance and that I havent improved. But the actual meetings told me had nothing that needed immediate improvement on.

Crimson_Corsair posted...

So to be clear, you WERE in fact showing up late to work on multiple occasions?

my files has 2, maybe 3 lates over the course of the month. With two of them being due to construction on the street that goes directly to my job that everyone got caught in.

The Real kicker is my file says Ive been coming back from lunch late, but under the grace period that management told me existed.

Turns out another manager says its no grace period, didnt ask any other manager to confirm if thats been said or not And reported it up To HR.

Bump

This is why unions are important

Sorry this happened, TC. I'm glad your management has your back at least.

So whats the status of your situation? Still on standby? Any sense of how it will go?

Sariana21 posted...

So whats the status of your situation? Still on standby? Any sense of how it will go?

still on standby I had to be contacted within 5 business days and this would be day 3.

Ive been job hunting just in case, and have an interview Monday.

ideally I get offered my job back, with back pay for the week and I can come back after my already planned vacation on Black Friday.

I think its safe to say if you are allowed back, it would be a good idea to stop being late. It cant be that hard to know what time your work starts and how long lunch is so there should be no more doubt about the exact attendance policy

Time to clear up the series of miscommunications between management and you.

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it wasnt really a time blindness Situation, I would basically take another 5 mins to finish eating or finish whatever I was watching before clocking in because I was told I was allowed to do it. I wouldnt of been doing it if I wasnt told that was the case.

archizzy posted...

I think its safe to say if you are allowed back, it would be a good idea to stop being late. It cant be that hard to know what time your work starts and how long lunch is so there should be no more doubt about the exact attendance policy

Time to clear up the series of miscommunications between management and you.

Im actually not that late. I was stuck in construction that management was aware of and I was given false information my management that wasnt properly vetted.

yes I could of been better, but If Im told Im fine. I dont HAVE to be better you know.

I'm not a lawyer or scientist but it sounds to me like you got fucked

Never trust someone who says theres leniency on a rule. Just because that person may be lenient doesn't mean their boss is and their boss is also your boss. Follow the damn rules

Whatever's on paper or in the rulebook is really all that matters. Managers don't read that shit, they just exist to make noise. Whoever told you there was leniency was probably just being nice.

NO2_Fiend posted...

Never trust someone who says theres leniency on a rule. Just because that person may be lenient doesn't mean their boss is and their boss is also your boss. Follow the damn rules

The company actually doesnt have a detailed rule book. For example the rule on attendance is about the length of this entire post and most things are left to the District Manager and the Store managers discretion. Consider we changed Store Managers in the Last 2 months weve been having miscommunications..

For example recently, Managers recently forgot to schedule a manager for the early shift. Leaving employees outside for two hours. In the past you only had to wait 20 mintues and if no one came you got paid out for the day. Youre now expected to wait until someone comes. This change was never explained and was only mentioned after this happened.

gamepimp12 posted...

For example recently, Managers recently forgot to schedule a manager for the early shift. Leaving employees outside for two hours. In the past you only had to wait 20 mintues and if no one came you got paid out for the day. Youre now expected to wait until someone comes. This change was never explained and was only mentioned after this happened.

Lol wtf

Good luck TC

MatzoTov posted...

Lol wtf

You also aren't allowed to be on your phone or sit down while waiting, I assume.

gamepimp12 posted...

it wasnt really a time blindness Situation, I would basically take another 5 mins to finish eating or finish whatever I was watching before clocking in because I was told I was allowed to do it. I wouldnt of been doing it if I wasnt told that was the case.

Your set break time if your set break time, as outlined in the handbook. NEVER let some bozo tell you that you can take more, because they will deny they ever said it.