Current Events > any non-phone jobs i can do without creds/a degree? and that pay okay >_>

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i genuinely dont know what exists or how to search for it. ive been a desk monkey for 8 years now at a couple insurance companies, whole industry is soul crushing tbh. and the phone calls, god, the phone calls all day every day

i make a lil over 50k usd (which i consider extremely fortunate even tho its not enough for me to get financial independence)

ill even take like, vague pointing in any direction if u got it. im willin to try hard here

Landscaping/lawn services

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Billyionaire posted...

Landscaping/lawn services

i looked into this a bit, it would most likely be quite the pay cut for me

however...i wonder if like, theres a job for cleaning hoarder yards/houses

like u know, the ones overflowing with garbage and biohazards and such

Following. I dont like what I have and one of my biggest issues has always been not knowing whats out there or where to look.

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is there such thing as like, a back of house butcher? i really dont think i have many more years.of customer interaction left in me

but when i worked at a grocery store a few years those butcher boys made some real good scratch, they had a separate union iirc

Dungeater posted...

i looked into this a bit, it would most likely be quite the pay cut for me

however...i wonder if like, theres a job for cleaning hoarder yards/houses

like u know, the ones overflowing with garbage and biohazards and such

The trick is to own the business. Don't work for others or you will be a wage slave for sure.

Look for any trainee job in a number of fields. We have hired many trainees over the years at my job (I work at a power plant and we produce steam and electricity) because we cant get experienced candidates.

Also if youre willing to relocate you might want to consider going to a better cost of living area if you cant even achieve financial independence at 50K a year. Where Im at in the Midwest you could easily buy a decent house and live comfortably on that no problem at all.

Billyionaire posted...

The trick is to own the business. Don't work for others or you will be a wage slave for sure.

thanks billy ill file this under consideration

archizzy posted...

Look for any trainee job in a number of fields. We have hired many trainees over the years at my job (I work at a power plant and we produce steam and electricity) because we cant get experienced candidates.

Also if youre willing to relocate you might want to consider going to a better cost of living area if you cant even achieve financial independence at 50K a year. Where Im at in the Midwest you could easily buy a decent house and live comfortably on that no problem at all.

gonna try this trainee thing, thats a good tip

unfortunately just up and moving is costly, and it would be unwise for me to uproot without having work lined up wherever id be moving to

however i will likely be moving to another very expensive state/city next year >_>

(but i will be moving in with my partner so it will definitely be more feasible)

My recommendation would be to look into government work, but I'm only familiar with my state, California, so I can't give any specific recommendations.

But as an example, working for the State of California, we have a position called Staff Services Analyst (SSA). You meet the requirements for it:

Equivalent to completion of the 12th grade; and

Four years of experience performing analytical, technical, clerical, and/or customer service duties. Academic education from an accredited college/university may be substituted for the required experience on a year-for-year basis.

And range C starts at $55k and caps at $68k. And from there, you're able to promote further, depending on what direction you want to go.

I say all of that to say, look into working for the government for your state. Plenty of positions that let you substitute education requirements with job experience, so you can keep moving up once you get in.

If you're willing to study a bunch for certifications, tech is a great field to go into. I'm a college dropout, but started getting Cisco certifications back in 2013. I became a network engineer and have had a steady well paying career for about 9 years now.

NoxObscuras posted...

My recommendation would be to look into government work, but I'm only familiar with my state, California, so I can't give any specific recommendations.

But as an example, working for the State of California, we have a position called Staff Services Analyst (SSA). You meet the requirements for it:

And range C starts at $55k and caps at $68k. And from there, you're able to promote further, depending on what direction you want to go.

I say all of that to say, look into working for the government for your state. Plenty of positions that let you substitute education requirements with job experience, so you can keep moving up once you get in.

this is really relevant actually. good advice, im saving this post

CableZL posted...

If you're willing to study a bunch for certifications, tech is a great field to go into. I'm a college dropout, but started getting Cisco certifications back in 2013. I became a network engineer and have had a steady well paying career for about 9 years now.

tech is unfortunately a no-go for me. im simply too stupid for it. or at the very least, i dont have the right brain for it. i did used to check in on it here and there but its just not gonna work for me

but what youre saying is probably good advice all the same, hope im not coming across as shooting u down

Become an electrician or carpenter

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damn this is another good idea i havent thought of

im really squeamish to be honest, but I'm willing to try to move past that. i deff dont wanna shoot down good ideas just by being picky. saving this too

Try for something more hands on an niche.

Landscaping isn't really niche and not worth it unless you're running your own business.. occasionally you can get a sweet gig at college or school and get those perks. A college work schedule, real benefits, occasionally free schooling.

If you got a pickup, you can be a trash pickup/cleaner/hoarder helper in a matter of minutes. Can be very lucrative and thetax benefits along with a W2 job can be killer

Trades are going to be a gold mine if you do your time or get into a rad apprenticeship. Lots of grants out there that will pay for you to go to school as well

Dungeater posted...

this is really relevant actually. good advice, im saving this post

tech is unfortunately a no-go for me. im simply too stupid for it. or at the very least, i dont have the right brain for it. i did used to check in on it here and there but its just not gonna work for me

but what youre saying is probably good advice all the same, hope im not coming across as shooting u down

Oh bummer. Because another suggestion I was going to make was looking into becoming a water treatment operator or a wastewater treatment operator.

They hardly have any public interaction, because their job is to work at the plant that cleans water. The downside though, is that in order to get the certification, you have to pass an exam showing that you know how to calculate how much water is in a cylindrical tank, how much water is going through pipes, how much chlorine you need, in parts per million (ppm), etc. Basically it's a very math heavy exam. They start a little lower than your current salary (46k), but it's a career that can reach 6 figures if you promote.

alright time to research this shit while folding laundry

Civil Servant, though you may need some certificates and it is competitive sometimes

CableZL posted...

If you're willing to study a bunch for certifications, tech is a great field to go into. I'm a college dropout, but started getting Cisco certifications back in 2013. I became a network engineer and have had a steady well paying career for about 9 years now.

Ive thought about this every so often but I dont know if its right for me. Im comfortable with computers, but Im also very impatient when it comes to them also lol. Like TC, I dont think I really have the right brain for it.

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