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FLOUR
10/28/23 9:14:18 PM
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...how does the heck does World Series take a back seat to a college football game on their site? A 4-3 team vs a 5-2 team for that matter.

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__aCEr__
10/28/23 9:15:27 PM
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Coach Prime.

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DanHaren4Ringz
10/28/23 9:15:55 PM
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Lol, when game 1 was happening yday, the front page of ESPN was showing Celtics vs Heat....an october NBA game lol.
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StealThisSheen
10/28/23 9:17:11 PM
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FLOUR posted...
...how does the heck does World Series take a back seat to a college football game on their site? A 4-3 team vs a 5-2 team for that matter.

They follow the ratings/clicks.

Evidently, people care less about Game 1 of the World Series than they do an average college football game.

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TheDurinator
10/28/23 9:19:13 PM
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Imagine being so out of touch that you think America cares more about the boreball world series between two teams nobody cares about than Coach Prime.
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I4NRulez
10/28/23 9:20:09 PM
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FLOUR posted...
...how does the heck does World Series take a back seat to a college football game on their site? A 4-3 team vs a 5-2 team for that matter.

ESPN thinks that people want to see things but they are usually wrong about people actually want to see

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Compsognathus
10/28/23 9:20:32 PM
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Baseball has actively gone out of its way to make sure it's as hard as possible to watch with all their RSN shit, they shouldn't be surprised when people stop caring.

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b_nolan
10/28/23 9:20:57 PM
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They still think Colorado is good

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Agonized_rufous
10/28/23 9:21:57 PM
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MNF killed the MLB game in views

Football is just a better sport

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StealThisSheen
10/28/23 9:24:23 PM
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I4NRulez posted...
ESPN thinks that people want to see things but they are usually wrong about people actually want to see

They're more correct about what people want to see than not, based on ratings. MLB ratings are, generally, in the toilet, to the point where other news sources literally wrote articles trying to say "You shouldn't truly care about how bad the ratings are," such as seen here:

https://sports.yahoo.com/world-series-2023-why-you-as-a-baseball-fan-shouldnt-worry-about-the-ratings-for-rangers-diamondbacks-192916676.html

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StealThisSheen
10/28/23 9:26:14 PM
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And, as the article I linked says, here's why people don't care about the World Series, case in point:

Now, if you want a good topic of conversation about these two teams, try this: The Rangers and Diamondbacks had a combined .537 regular-season winning percentage. According to OptaStats, thats the lowest winning percentage by the two final teams in the NFL, NBA, NHL and MLB in more than 30 years

tl;dr: This is the worst finals, of any major American sports, in over 30 years. It's two barely below par teams slapping at each other.

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darkace77450
10/28/23 10:45:32 PM
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StealThisSheen posted...
And, as the article I linked says, here's why people don't care about the World Series, case in point:

tl;dr: This is the worst finals, of any major American sports, in over 30 years. It's two barely below par teams slapping at each other.

Alternative theory: the east and west coast media isn't talking about baseball because their precious Yankees didn't make the postseason and the Dodgers got bounced early...again. The lack of media hype is translating to a lack of interest.
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StealThisSheen
10/28/23 10:47:09 PM
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darkace77450 posted...
Alternative theory: the east and west coast media isn't talking about baseball because their precious Yankees didn't make the postseason and the Dodgers got bounced early...again. The lack of media hype is translating to a lack of interest.

No, no conspiracy theories necessary

It's just, literally, that this is an incredibly uninteresting World Series because it's the weakest finals in over 30 years.

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Zikten
10/28/23 10:48:38 PM
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Baseball is not a bad sport. It just is slower
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DanHaren4Ringz
10/28/23 10:49:47 PM
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As a lifelong hardcore sports fan and baseball fan I couldn't give 2 shits about ESPN or the MLB. Fuck the MLB for helping facilitate the A's move and fuck the A's for moving.
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KainWind
10/28/23 10:51:00 PM
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FLOUR posted...
ESPN hates baseball

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StealThisSheen
10/28/23 10:51:18 PM
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In fact, the Yankees haven't been to the World Series since 2009, so your conspiracy theory isn't just wrong, it's hilariously wrong.

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darkace77450
10/28/23 10:56:43 PM
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StealThisSheen posted...
No, no conspiracy theories necessary

It's not a conspiracy theory to say the media is covering this series differently then they would if it was two bigger market teams squaring off. I don't see how that's a contentious statement.
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Compsognathus
10/28/23 11:05:28 PM
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The ratings are tanking because regional sports network nonsense. In a lot of markets you need access to channels like Bally sports to watch games throughout the season. These channels frequently aren't part of things like YouTube TV or Hulu Live and require seperate purchases. It's just harder to watch baseball than it ever had been. Which makes it hard to build up interest throughout the season, so when you get to the playoffs, there just isn't any hype, even though those games are a lot more accessible.

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StealThisSheen
10/28/23 11:54:17 PM
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darkace77450 posted...
It's not a conspiracy theory to say the media is covering this series differently than they would if it was two bigger market teams squaring off. I don't see how that's a contentious statement.

You suggested that they aren't covering it more because it's not one of two SPECIFIC teams.

"They're covering it differently because they're low interest teams" literally says nothing. That's how media works. These two teams don't draw very good ratings, so they're covering them less, accordingly. That's also not the argument you originally made.

They could cover it more, but it wouldn't magically make people watch, because... Not many people are interested in the teams playing. This is one of the biggest "Who cares?" World Series in decades.

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darkace77450
10/29/23 12:03:36 AM
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StealThisSheen posted...
These two teams don't draw very good ratings, so they're covering them less, accordingly. That's also not the argument you originally made.

If you want to insist the media doesn't care because they don't draw rather than them not drawing because the media doesn't care then I guess we're at an impasse. I'm not saying they'd pull NYY or LAD numbers if the media put more effort into promoting the series than they have, but I refuse to believe the ratings wouldn't be better than they are if they did.
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Kamil
10/29/23 12:22:56 AM
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This actually may be a competitive series. Granted say super team slapping around low tier team may draw big initial numbers. A 4 to 5 game World Series doesn't benefit the money machine public at large.

Granted I haven't been watching because eh I just don't sometimes (watched a little Hockey Night in Canada earlier). And while I do care about the Phillies more this isn't 2011 either where I was actually super into them and baseball in general for the first time ever.

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StealThisSheen
10/29/23 12:36:27 AM
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darkace77450 posted...
but I refuse to believe the ratings wouldn't be better than they are if they did.

You can refuse to believe it, but that's just how it is. The media doesn't just choose to cover a team more because they like the colors or something. They cover things based on what the draw is, and these teams, simply, aren't a draw. This World Series is two teams that didn't even win their own divisions. Hell, the Diamondbacks finished 16 games back, in theirs.

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