Current Events > Joe Biden speaks on Israel in the 1980s

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2Pacavelli
10/09/23 7:52:25 PM
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https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8rmgVbf/

Says that Israel is needed to protect American interests in the Middle East and it's the best 3.8 Billion Dollar (at the time) a year investment they could every make.

Thoughts?
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Irony
10/09/23 7:53:09 PM
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American interest in the '80s probably wasn't genocide

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Intro2Logic
10/09/23 7:54:00 PM
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Irony posted...
American interest in the '80s probably wasn't genocide
I would not be so sure about this, given other things American foreign policy was up to at the time.

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thronedfire2
10/09/23 7:54:04 PM
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it's not exactly a surprise that that's why they're our ally. it's a pretty strategic position

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NittanyLions23
10/09/23 7:54:05 PM
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How does Israel protect American interest exactly?
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Naysaspace
10/09/23 7:55:38 PM
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1980s = today and nothing every changes EVER. what once was will always be! what is has always been!
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Torgo
10/09/23 7:57:30 PM
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Find anyone in mainstream politics in 1980 that wasn't saying the exact same thing.

Only a handful are even questioning the far right government and apartheid state now in 2023.

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havean776
10/09/23 7:58:18 PM
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My thoughts is that was 42 years ago. Before most users were born.

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Torgo
10/09/23 8:00:27 PM
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2Pacavelli posted...
Thoughts?

Literally the exact same position almost every elected member of the republican and democratic party have held from then until now.

This may be the least surprising "gotcha" Joe Brandon topic to date.

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A_Good_Boy
10/09/23 8:02:13 PM
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Irony posted...
American interest in the '80s probably wasn't genocide
American policy has always been about doing as much harm to brown people as possible.

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God_Wears_Prada
10/09/23 8:06:16 PM
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I mean hes right from a geopolitical standpoint. Literally the only reason we care about Israel is the strategic foothold it gives us in the Middle East.

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DragonClaw01
10/09/23 8:25:39 PM
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God_Wears_Prada posted...
I mean hes right from a geopolitical standpoint. Literally the only reason we care about Israel is the strategic foothold it gives us in the Middle East.
There are a few reasons we like the relationship with Israel. First they guard the Suez Canal: the most important canal in the world, second is that they resonate culturally with the Jews & Christians in the US, so are good for politics and third they are seen as a strong and stable power in the Middle East that can help the US achieve its broad strategic goals in the region (plus they have nukes, so we especially want them to be stable).

The relationship with Israel used to be more contentious with the rest of the Middle East before, but as relations between the various Muslim countries and Israel have been getting closer over the years, this is less of the issue. We get absolutely nothing by support Palestine, they are a weak country that is not even particularly well regarded by the rest of the Muslim countries. They are nothing but useful idiots for the Iranians and will be a hotbed for civil strife for the foreseeable future

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10/11/23 10:03:32 AM
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SayHeyyShohei
10/11/23 12:10:33 PM
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Irony posted...
American interest in the '80s probably wasn't genocide

LOL

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TimeForAction
10/11/23 12:12:50 PM
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You had to go back 40 years to find a quote like that?
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masterpug53
10/11/23 12:16:02 PM
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Oh my god...Joe Biden was in politics 40 years ago? This guy is fuckin' OLD!! Has anyone else ever noticed this before?!

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ai123
10/11/23 12:18:34 PM
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American (under the counter) policy has always been to prevent the Arab nations achieving a unified peace settlement with Israel. This is why they have always focused on encouraging individual nations (like Egypt) to go it alone. Or only made unacceptable proposals.

The economic and military power of the a united Arab world that didn't have to focus on grievances with Israel would be a threat to US influence.

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name_unknown
10/11/23 12:23:22 PM
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Sounds on brand.

The terrorists groups for free Palestine have been active since the 60s hijacking airplanes and performing assassinations on civilians. I say current massacre is on par of the Munich Olympics 1972. Doubt Joe would have forgotten about that.
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Butterfiles
10/11/23 12:24:32 PM
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Irony posted...
American interest in the '80s probably wasn't genocide
*Ronald Reagan has entered the chat*

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Revisited
10/11/23 12:29:18 PM
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It goes without saying that we need places like Israel to protect American interests and maintain American hegemony in the region. Oh yeah
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Agonized_rufous
10/11/23 12:29:48 PM
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NittanyLions23 posted...
How does Israel protect American interest exactly?

Gives our adversaries something local to target besides the actual US

US: You really wanna be here don't you?
Israel: Yawp
US: Alright, well, heres some goodies
Israel: Bet.


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