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deathproof12
10/02/23 5:41:11 PM
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This guy really has a 12 year gap between books for no good reason.
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Doom_Art
10/02/23 5:42:08 PM
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1 more year and A Dance with Dragons can make an account on this site

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Turbam
10/02/23 5:42:12 PM
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Metroid Prime 4 will release before WoW

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TomClark
10/02/23 5:42:42 PM
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Turbam posted...
Metroid Prime 4 will release before WoW

Beyond Good and Evil 2 will release before WoW.

Fuck it, A Dream of Spring will probably release before WoW.

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BurmesePenguin
10/02/23 5:43:06 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
1 more year and A Dance with Dragons can make an account on this site
If it stays in character it will be a shitposter.

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MC_BatCommander
10/02/23 5:43:23 PM
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Friendly reminder there's lots of great fantasy that gets eclipsed by ASoIaF, stuff that's actually finished too!

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BurmesePenguin
10/02/23 5:43:52 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
Friendly reminder there's lots of great fantasy that gets eclipsed by ASoIaF, stuff that's actually finished too!

Name seven.


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ironman2009
10/02/23 5:44:14 PM
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we already know the end.

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UnholyMudcrab
10/02/23 5:44:15 PM
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Silksong will release before WoW

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TomClark
10/02/23 5:44:56 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Silksong will release before WoW

Hey now. Let's not be silly.

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mystic_belmont
10/02/23 5:45:34 PM
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BurmesePenguin posted...
Name seven.

Probably anything by Sanderson.

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Kimbos_Egg
10/02/23 5:45:45 PM
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ironman2009 posted...
we already know the end.

No you don't.

he already said it won't end the same.

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BurmesePenguin
10/02/23 5:46:11 PM
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mystic_belmont posted...
Probably anything by Sanderson.
Name seven not written by a homophobe.

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Rai_Jin
10/02/23 5:47:11 PM
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BurmesePenguin posted...
Name seven.

Realm of the Elderlings, Gideon the Ninth

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ironman2009
10/02/23 5:47:42 PM
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Kimbos_Egg posted...
No you don't.

he already said it won't end the same.

bow and accept it buddy, there's one true king

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MC_BatCommander
10/02/23 5:48:14 PM
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BurmesePenguin posted...
Name seven.

Wheel of Time
Books of Babel
Founders trilogy
Piranesi (standalone novel but still great)
The Craft Sequence
Powder Mage
First Law

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A_Good_Boy
10/02/23 5:49:12 PM
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BurmesePenguin posted...
Name seven not written by a homophobe.
There's gay characters in his book. How's he a homophobe?

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mystic_belmont
10/02/23 5:55:27 PM
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BurmesePenguin posted...
Name seven not written by a homophobe.

He is?

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BurmesePenguin
10/02/23 5:58:14 PM
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That's what people were saying 5 or so years ago. Something about him being a mormon and sharing his Mormonic views on homosexuality.

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ironman2009
10/02/23 5:59:29 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/6/5/AAa0vfAAEh3B.jpg

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A_Good_Boy
10/02/23 5:59:32 PM
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mystic_belmont posted...
He is?
I just did a very quick search and it appears that he wrote a homophobic blog post at 16 that gets brought up from time to time that he still receives criticism for. He's stated his views have changed considerably since then, partly because of that blog post, because without the resulting criticism he'd never have learned and changed his views for the better. He just asks his fans to not go crazy with defending him whenever the blog post invariably resurfaces on the internet over and over again.

I'm not sure if there's more to it since I only did a very brief search and I don't really care to look for more than that atm.

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DrizztLink
10/02/23 5:59:39 PM
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BurmesePenguin posted...
Name seven.
They're in the box.

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Klaus343
10/02/23 6:09:32 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
There's gay characters in his book. How's he a homophobe?

mystic_belmont posted...
He is?

Sanderson is a LDS (same as Orson Scott Card, this will be important) and because of that everyone states he's "homophobic", despite there being literally zero evidence (apart from a blog post from decades ago, and regurgitating his religion), except an author who shares his religion (OSC) was/is very vocal against gay marriage.

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Boombam99
10/02/23 6:12:16 PM
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Has it reached the point yet where he could have wrote one sentence a day and finished the book by now? We have to be approaching that
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darkace77450
10/02/23 6:18:15 PM
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mystic_belmont posted...
He is?

No.

https://faq.brandonsanderson.com/knowledge-base/ive-heard-you-are-a-practicing-member-of-the-church-of-jesus-christ-of-latter-day-saints -what-are-your-opinions-on-gay-rights-particularly-in-light-of-the-churchs-controversial-rel/
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pauIie
10/02/23 6:19:25 PM
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Kimbos_Egg posted...
No you don't.

he already said it won't end the same.
it won't end so that's not the same, technically

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Powdered_Toast
10/02/23 6:21:26 PM
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I love these fun little gamefaqs time capsules.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/202-books-and-literature/61795556


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thronedfire2
10/02/23 6:24:10 PM
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ironman2009 posted...
we already know the end.

I think the only things they got right were Arya killing the Night King and the Iron Throne being destroyed and probably Jon killing Dany

everything else in s8 was way too rushed

but anyway it doesn't even matter if winds of winter comes out because dream of spring never is

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Ivynn
10/02/23 6:25:35 PM
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Book ain't happenin'

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darkace77450
10/02/23 6:25:51 PM
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Boombam99 posted...
Has it reached the point yet where he could have wrote one sentence a day and finished the book by now? We have to be approaching that

Dance is 415,000 words. 4,465 days have passed since Dance was released. If he'd written an average of 93 words a day between now and then, he'd have a manuscript matching Dance in size. To give you an idea of how low a bar that is to clear, my reply to your post is 58 words in length.
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darkace77450
10/02/23 6:27:42 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
I think the only things they got right were Arya killing the Night King

There is no Night King in the books.
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UnholyMudcrab
10/02/23 6:29:14 PM
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darkace77450 posted...
There is no Night King in the books.
There's a Night's King, but he's basically a mythological figure.

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thronedfire2
10/02/23 6:29:34 PM
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darkace77450 posted...
There is no Night King in the books.

maybe not yet


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thronedfire2
10/02/23 6:30:01 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
There's a Night's King, but he's basically a mythological figure.

..the white walkers were too at the beginning of the series though

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Ivynn
10/02/23 6:31:40 PM
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Anyway, it's pretty obvious GRRM wants ASoIaF to be a great "unfinished masterpiece" where a novel series is never finished because the author croaks before it's completion leading to decades of speculation of what could have been.

GRRM seems to have forgotten that only works when the author dies while still writing.

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Boombam99
10/02/23 6:32:47 PM
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darkace77450 posted...
Dance is 415,000 words. There have been 4,465 since Dance was released. If he'd written an average of 93 words a day between now and then, he'd have a manuscript matching Dance in size. To give you an idea of how low a bar that is to clear, my reply to your post is 58 words in length.

Lol this is great
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thronedfire2
10/02/23 6:34:14 PM
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Ivynn posted...
Anyway, it's pretty obvious GRRM wants ASoIaF to be a great "unfinished masterpiece" where a novel series is never finished because the author croaks before it's completion leading to decades of speculation of what could have been.

GRRM seems to have forgotten that only works when the author dies while still writing.

I think he saw the reaction to the show's ending and knew people would never be happy even if he did things completely differently and just stopped trying

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UnholyMudcrab
10/02/23 6:34:53 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
..the white walkers were too at the beginning of the series though
Eh, fair enough.

They still aren't the same character, though. In the series, the Night King was the first person turned into a White Walker, while in the books, the Night's King was a corrupt leader of the Night's Watch who allegedly fell in love with an Other and then lost his soul and went mad with power.

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darkace77450
10/02/23 6:35:55 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
I think he saw the reaction to the show's ending and knew people would never be happy even if he did things completely differently and just stopped trying

I think he became tremendously rich and famous and decided he'd rather spend his winter years spending money, traveling the world, and being praised by legions of fans.
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DrizztLink
10/02/23 6:36:54 PM
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https://youtu.be/QpNFqg99dwo

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deathproof12
10/02/23 6:38:03 PM
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darkace77450 posted...
I think he became tremendously rich and famous and decided he'd rather spend his winter years spending money, traveling the world, and being praised by legions of fans.

He doesn't need to work hard anymore so he gave up and is not even doing the bare minimum anymore.
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KogaSteelfang
10/02/23 6:38:32 PM
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"George RR Martin releasing the winds of winter"
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thronedfire2
10/02/23 6:38:35 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Eh, fair enough.

They still aren't the same character, though. In the series, the Night King was the first person turned into a White Walker, while in the books, the Night's King was a corrupt leader of the Night's Watch who allegedly fell in love with an Other and then lost his soul and went mad with power.

alright I definitely admit I forgot that bit of lore from the books so there is a big difference

I think George's plan for the books were to make the Night God/Many Faced God/Lord of Light much more prominent but it just didn't translate to TV well with the time constraints they had.

the children of the forest creating them to fight off man's destruction seems more like a godzilla kinda thing

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thronedfire2
10/02/23 6:40:11 PM
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darkace77450 posted...
I think he became tremendously rich and famous and decided he'd rather spend his winter years spending money, traveling the world, and being praised by legions of fans.

eh, I dunno. he was only 63 12 years ago, and even fat people can live into their 90s

he's still spent a ton of time working on other stuff, and he isn't exactly getting praise from the book fans these days. he doesn't even deserve much praise for the series after season 4-5

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marthsheretoo
10/02/23 6:42:54 PM
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darkace77450 posted...
Dance is 415,000 words. 4,465 days have passed since Dance was released. If he'd written an average of 93 words a day between now and then, he'd have a manuscript matching Dance in size. To give you an idea of how low a bar that is to clear, my reply to your post is 58 words in length.

To be fair, a first draft is by no means an end product and GRRM would still have plenty of work ahead of him.

But to be fair AND balanced, that first draft would still be more than he has today.

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Itachi157
10/02/23 6:47:00 PM
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I would've been annoyed like several years ago but at this point I've lost all interest in anything ASOIAF/Westeros related. I'd honestly have no interest in reading it if it dropped tomorrow.
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AceMos
10/02/23 6:50:57 PM
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whats winds of winter

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DrizztLink
10/02/23 6:51:24 PM
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AceMos posted...
whats winds of winter
It's like El Nio but in the sky.

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Sandalorn
10/02/23 6:57:03 PM
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He basically just wants to spend the rest of his life going to conventions where he is treated like a king.

Money and fame overcame desire and work ethic.

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