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legendary_zell 09/29/23 11:15:29 AM #100:	Jerry_Hellyeah posted... The GOP is clearly the common denominator that is causing the damage and erosion of our democracy. Please do not shift that blame onto a vulnerable group of people. I really do not like the ageist focus on gaffes as opposed to policy. There can be multiple causes of predictable disasters. You'll never find me minimizing the evil of the Republican Party. Democrats don't need to help them along by using paper thin arguments about ageism to cover for blatant and widely foreseen own goals. When you hold power in a crucial defense point when you're at extremely high risk of being able to defend your post and being unable to be removed as well, you're doing Republicans a favor. They LOVE it when someone hangs on too long because it gives them a chance for fuckery like they may do now and did do with RBG. We shouldn't do what they want us to do, we should do the things that strike fear and rage into their hearts. Like having young, healthy, popular politicians for example. --- I gotta be righteous, I gotta be me, I gotta be conscious, I gotta be free, I gotta be able, I gotta attack, I gotta be stable, I gotta be black. <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:976374747] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>Jerry_Hellyeah posted... </cite><quote>The GOP is clearly the common denominator that is causing the damage and erosion of our democracy. Please do not shift that blame onto a vulnerable group of people. I really do not like the ageist focus on gaffes as opposed to policy.</quote>There can be multiple causes of predictable disasters. You'll never find me minimizing the evil of the Republican Party. Democrats don't need to help them along by using paper thin arguments about ageism to cover for blatant and widely foreseen own goals. When you hold power in a crucial defense point when you're at extremely high risk of being able to defend your post and being unable to be removed as well, you're doing Republicans a favor. They LOVE it when someone hangs on too long because it gives them a chance for fuckery like they may do now and did do with RBG. We shouldn't do what they want us to do, we should do the things that strike fear and rage into their hearts. Like having young, healthy, popular politicians for example. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SimulationSwarm 09/29/23 11:20:24 AM #101:	Re: Barbara Lee. I highly doubt she gets appointed when shes actively running for the seat in 2024. It would give her an unfair advantage. Its a complicated issue because you want to appoint someone that is only gonna serve this temporary term and not try to retain the seat --- Np: Big Thief - Simulation Swarm <cite>SimulationSwarm posted [p:976374827] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>Re: Barbara Lee. I highly doubt she gets appointed when shes actively running for the seat in 2024. It would give her an unfair advantage. Its a complicated issue because you want to appoint someone that is only gonna serve this temporary term and not try to retain the seat </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZaruenKosai 09/29/23 11:21:22 AM #102:	RchHomieQuanChi posted... So you're saying 10 year Olds should be qualified to hold a political office? . "When we're mad we'll use our words. Then the rest of the world will play nice with us. And the only boom-booms will be in our pants." Ralph Wiggum for President of the U.S.A Starks posted... Graham and others have suggested they wouldn't do that. Only if Dems tried to replace her without a vacancy. Why should we trust what they say now? It's not like they've never said one thing than done the opposite seconds later. --- RTX 3080 - i9 10850k - LFII 360mm - Enthoo 719/Luxe 2 + 7 140mm ARGB Fans - Z490P - 850w + Plat - 120 Inch Epson 5050UB + QN90NB + Q90R <cite>ZaruenKosai posted [p:976374848] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>RchHomieQuanChi posted... </cite><quote>So you're saying 10 year Olds should be qualified to hold a political office?</quote>. "When we're mad we'll use our words. Then the rest of the world will play nice with us. And the only boom-booms will be in our pants." Ralph Wiggum for President of the U.S.AStarks posted... </cite><quote>Graham and others have suggested they wouldn't do that. Only if Dems tried to replace her without a vacancy.</quote>Why should we trust what they say now? It's not like they've never said one thing than done the opposite seconds later. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 09/29/23 11:24:52 AM #103:	This lady was obviously on her last leg and her staff was really wheeling her around making her do shit. She didn't even know where tf she was half the time. Everyone that was around her should feel like shit. Literal elder abuse. --- http://i.imgur.com/x04tPRZ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/t7T392I.jpg <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:976374916] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>This lady was obviously on her last leg and her staff was really wheeling her around making her do shit. She didn't even know where tf she was half the time. Everyone that was around her should feel like shit. Literal elder abuse. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SayHeyyShohei 09/29/23 11:25:55 AM #104:	Smashingpmkns posted... This lady was obviously on her last leg and her staff was really wheeling her around making her do shit. She didn't even know where tf she was half the time. Everyone that was around her should feel like shit. Literal elder abuse. This --- Welcome to the Twilight Zone <cite>SayHeyyShohei posted [p:976374935] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted... </cite><quote>This lady was obviously on her last leg and her staff was really wheeling her around making her do shit. She didn't even know where tf she was half the time. Everyone that was around her should feel like shit. Literal elder abuse.</quote>This </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tom_Joad 09/29/23 11:29:10 AM #105:	Shadow_Don posted... She did some legitimately good work but Holy fuck the damage some of these people have done by not retiring This. --- "History shows again and again that nature points out the folly of man. Go go Godzilla!" Godzilla - Blue Oyster Cult <cite>Tom_Joad posted [p:976374996] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>Shadow_Don posted... </cite><quote>She did some legitimately good work but Holy fuck the damage some of these people have done by not retiring</quote>This. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tom_Joad 09/29/23 11:30:36 AM #106:	Jerry_Hellyeah posted... What's the line to be drawn? An 80 year old can have decades left in them. There needs to be a serious focus on the policies that show this conflict of interest before we even think about forcibly removing elected officials for belonging to a vulnerable group of people. What's the line? Health and mental capabilities. --- "History shows again and again that nature points out the folly of man. Go go Godzilla!" Godzilla - Blue Oyster Cult <cite>Tom_Joad posted [p:976375018] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>Jerry_Hellyeah posted... </cite><quote>What's the line to be drawn? An 80 year old can have decades left in them. There needs to be a serious focus on the policies that show this conflict of interest before we even think about forcibly removing elected officials for belonging to a vulnerable group of people.</quote>What's the line?Health and mental capabilities. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReiRei89 09/29/23 11:39:46 AM #107:	Kain_Highwind posted... https://twitter.com/InstantSunrise/status/1707746158817550846 was Feinstein great? https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/dianne-feinstein-confederate-flag/ --- FGO US:973,940,202 JP:410,404,215 Resident Europa fangirl <cite>ReiRei89 posted [p:976375156] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>Kain_Highwind posted... </cite><quote>https://twitter.com/InstantSunrise/status/1707746158817550846was Feinstein great?</quote>https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/dianne-feinstein-confederate-flag/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssjevot 09/29/23 11:45:39 AM #108:	ReiRei89 posted... https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/dianne-feinstein-confederate-flag/ It's weird that article says unproven but then when you read it it's actually correct. I am not sure what makes it unproven. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss <cite>ssjevot posted [p:976375257] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>ReiRei89 posted... </cite><quote>https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/dianne-feinstein-confederate-flag/</quote>It's weird that article says unproven but then when you read it it's actually correct. I am not sure what makes it unproven. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SayHeyyShohei 09/29/23 11:47:06 AM #109:	ssjevot posted... I am not sure what makes it unproven. $$$ --- Welcome to the Twilight Zone <cite>SayHeyyShohei posted [p:976375283] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>ssjevot posted... </cite><quote> I am not sure what makes it unproven.</quote>$$$ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 09/29/23 11:51:39 AM #110:	ssjevot posted... It's weird that article says unproven but then when you read it it's actually correct. I am not sure what makes it unproven. Looks like the flag was already there when she took office. It was replaced after it got destroyed but it's unclear who actually ordered it. Regardless it happened on her watch. After it got destroyed a second time, she stepped in to block a second replacement. I don't think unproven is the right word for this. I know snopes has a mostly true category which sounds more appropriate. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:976375355] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>ssjevot posted... </cite><quote>It's weird that article says unproven but then when you read it it's actually correct. I am not sure what makes it unproven.</quote>Looks like the flag was already there when she took office. It was replaced after it got destroyed but it's unclear who actually ordered it. Regardless it happened on her watch. After it got destroyed a second time, she stepped in to block a second replacement. I don't think unproven is the right word for this. I know snopes has a mostly true category which sounds more appropriate. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArchonKnight 09/29/23 12:00:21 PM #111:	ZMythos posted... We need forced retirement for politicians for both ethically political and ethically humane reasons. --- {]xxxxxxxxx(&)::::;;;;;:::::::::::::::::::::;;;;::::::::::::::::> Memento Mori <cite>ArchonKnight posted [p:976375505] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>ZMythos posted... </cite><quote>We need forced retirement for politicians for both ethically political and ethically humane reasons.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 09/29/23 12:05:29 PM #113:	In her will she specified her corpse will continue her senatorial duties. In all seriousness though, RIP. For whatever she became towards the end of her career, she was a trailblazer and helped turned Cali solidly blue. --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:976375596] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>In her will she specified her corpse will continue her senatorial duties. In all seriousness though, RIP. For whatever she became towards the end of her career, she was a trailblazer and helped turned Cali solidly blue. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jerry_Hellyeah 09/29/23 12:07:26 PM #115:	Tom_Joad posted... What's the line? Health and mental capabilities. I agree completely. The line isn't age, it's competency. Actions. Policy. --- This is a cool sig <cite>Jerry_Hellyeah posted [p:976375633] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>Tom_Joad posted... </cite><quote>What's the line?Health and mental capabilities.</quote>I agree completely. The line isn't age, it's competency. Actions. Policy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SayHeyyShohei 09/29/23 12:10:20 PM #116:	Jerry_Hellyeah posted... I agree completely. The line isn't age, it's competency. Actions. Policy. How do you challenge this? Could you imagine an inquiry into someone's mental state being a legal option for republicans? It would be a disaster. I'm fine with an age limit, full stop. If you're good enough to be a politician still and have your mental faculties, you are good enough to step down and have a protege ready. --- Welcome to the Twilight Zone <cite>SayHeyyShohei posted [p:976375674] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>Jerry_Hellyeah posted... </cite><quote>I agree completely. The line isn't age, it's competency. Actions. Policy.</quote>How do you challenge this? Could you imagine an inquiry into someone's mental state being a legal option for republicans? It would be a disaster.I'm fine with an age limit, full stop. If you're good enough to be a politician still and have your mental faculties, you are good enough to step down and have a protege ready. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Charged151 09/29/23 12:18:17 PM #117:	Smashingpmkns posted... This lady was obviously on her last leg and her staff was really wheeling her around making her do shit. She didn't even know where tf she was half the time. Everyone that was around her should feel like shit. Literal elder abuse. +1 --- I'm...the...master...of...ellipses... <cite>Charged151 posted [p:976375820] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted... </cite><quote>This lady was obviously on her last leg and her staff was really wheeling her around making her do shit. She didn't even know where tf she was half the time. Everyone that was around her should feel like shit. Literal elder abuse.</quote>+1 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
variasuite 09/29/23 12:29:06 PM #118:	Did she actually die or did they just now find out about it? --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycE7bUq3-2k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1kbLwvqugk <cite>variasuite posted [p:976376013] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>Did she actually die or did they just now find out about it? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainsawFerret 09/29/23 12:34:35 PM #119:	Hopefully, it means that someone of better mental capacity can take over. I was as tired as anybody with them pulling the Weekend at Bernie's schtick with her. Then again, I shouldn't give the pols any ideas. --- Fact: Ferrets attack more people than grizzly bears. " "Stop putting up with nonsense, or you'll keep getting atrocities." -Me <cite>ChainsawFerret posted [p:976376090] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>Hopefully, it means that someone of better mental capacity can take over. I was as tired as anybody with them pulling the Weekend at Bernie's schtick with her.Then again, I shouldn't give the pols any ideas. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Malcrasternus 09/29/23 12:46:32 PM #120:	Rest in Peace. I didn't agree with all of her stances but I think that can be said with almost anyone in our life. Wish the best for her family. --- 4/15/1951 - 3/18/2014 10/02/47 - 9/19/23 <cite>Malcrasternus posted [p:976376318] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>Rest in Peace. I didn't agree with all of her stances but I think that can be said with almost anyone in our life.Wish the best for her family. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BadKarma_JT 09/29/23 12:57:39 PM #121:	Lil_Bit83 posted... I wasn't crazy about her. But my condolences to her family. Her family may be celebrating, all that inheritance money. --- FC: 0361-6999-4252 <cite>BadKarma_JT posted [p:976376507] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>Lil_Bit83 posted... </cite><quote>I wasn't crazy about her. But my condolences to her family.</quote>Her family may be celebrating, all that inheritance money. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
streamofthesky 09/29/23 1:41:02 PM #122:	RIP Should've retired years ago and spent time w/ her family, not cling to power Were_Wyrm posted... RIP, but does that mean the judiciary committee can finally get a replacement and fill dozens of vacancies? Thank you for asking the real fucking question Republicans can't obstruct replacing a dead Senator on a committee, right? The Senate rules aren't THAT broken, right? <cite>streamofthesky posted [p:976377189] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>RIPShould've retired years ago and spent time w/ her family, not cling to powerWere_Wyrm posted... </cite><quote>RIP, but does that mean the judiciary committee can finally get a replacement and fill dozens of vacancies?</quote>Thank you for asking the real fucking questionRepublicans can't obstruct replacing a dead Senator on a committee, right? The Senate rules aren't THAT broken, right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 09/29/23 1:53:13 PM #123:	streamofthesky posted... Thank you for asking the real fucking question Republicans can't obstruct replacing a dead Senator on a committee, right? The Senate rules aren't THAT broken, right? It has to wait until a replacement is appointed. Republicans have a majority right now --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:976377398] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>streamofthesky posted... </cite><quote>Thank you for asking the real fucking questionRepublicans can't obstruct replacing a dead Senator on a committee, right? The Senate rules aren't THAT broken, right?</quote>It has to wait until a replacement is appointed. Republicans have a majority right now </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
streamofthesky 09/29/23 2:07:03 PM #124:	Tyranthraxus posted... It has to wait until a replacement is appointed. Republicans have a majority right now Well obviously. But once Newsome replaces her, Dems are free to put someone on the committee? Shouldn't take long to replace her, it's a Dem governor of a blue state replacing a Dem, and she was clearly at risk of passing away for a while now. <cite>streamofthesky posted [p:976377653] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>It has to wait until a replacement is appointed. Republicans have a majority right now</quote>Well obviously.But once Newsome replaces her, Dems are free to put someone on the committee?Shouldn't take long to replace her, it's a Dem governor of a blue state replacing a Dem, and she was clearly at risk of passing away for a while now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sega9599 09/29/23 2:10:57 PM #125:	legendary_zell posted... RIP, she did some good things. She was literally allowed to wield power until her dying day. That's wrong, regardless of the reasons for it and we need a system that prevents that from ever happening again. That's right. Good people should weild power forever. (Insert diatribe about how there is no good or evil) --- Needed: New Pokemon Puzzle League, Shining Force and Left 4 Dead.... <cite>Sega9599 posted [p:976377712] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>legendary_zell posted... </cite><quote>RIP, she did some good things. She was literally allowed to wield power until her dying day. That's wrong, regardless of the reasons for it and we need a system that prevents that from ever happening again.</quote>That's right. Good people should weild power forever.(Insert diatribe about how there is no good or evil) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shadow_Don 09/29/23 2:14:55 PM #126:	streamofthesky posted... Republicans can't obstruct replacing a dead Senator on a committee, right? The Senate rules aren't THAT broken, right? laughs in merrick garland and RBG --- "The soul in the darkness sins, but the real sinner is he who caused the darkness." - Victor Hugo <cite>Shadow_Don posted [p:976377787] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>streamofthesky posted... </cite><quote>Republicans can't obstruct replacing a dead Senator on a committee, right? The Senate rules aren't THAT broken, right?</quote>laughs in merrick garland and RBG </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Enclave 09/29/23 2:27:14 PM #127:	I'll be SHOCKED if Republicans replace her on the committee, I don't care what they've previously said on the matter. I do got to say, people would have a lot more fond memories of Feinstein if she hadn't clung to power so long. --- The commercial says that Church isn't for perfect people, I guess that's why I'm an atheist. <cite>Enclave posted [p:976377996] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>I'll be SHOCKED if Republicans replace her on the committee, I don't care what they've previously said on the matter.I do got to say, people would have a lot more fond memories of Feinstein if she hadn't clung to power so long. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jerry_Hellyeah 09/29/23 2:28:39 PM #128:	BadKarma_JT posted... Her family may be celebrating, all that inheritance money. Don't be shitty. --- This is a cool sig <cite>Jerry_Hellyeah posted [p:976378022] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>BadKarma_JT posted... </cite><quote>Her family may be celebrating, all that inheritance money.</quote>Don't be shitty. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Enclave 09/29/23 2:32:00 PM #129:	Jerry_Hellyeah posted... Don't be shitty. I wish somebody had told her that when she was talking down to kids. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIebWywFfNw --- The commercial says that Church isn't for perfect people, I guess that's why I'm an atheist. <cite>Enclave posted [p:976378083] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>Jerry_Hellyeah posted... </cite><quote>Don't be shitty.</quote>I wish somebody had told her that when she was talking down to kids.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIebWywFfNw </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArchonKnight 09/29/23 2:47:19 PM #130:	Enclave posted... I wish somebody had told her that when she was talking down to kids. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIebWywFfNw Jesus christ, she took it very personally --- {]xxxxxxxxx(&)::::;;;;;:::::::::::::::::::::;;;;::::::::::::::::> Memento Mori <cite>ArchonKnight posted [p:976378321] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>Enclave posted... </cite><quote>I wish somebody had told her that when she was talking down to kids.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIebWywFfNw</quote>Jesus christ, she took it very personally </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thermador446 09/29/23 2:50:27 PM #131:	Fuck working to the day I die --- "While you were wasting your time castrating a priceless antique, I was systematically feeding babies to hungry mutated puppies!" -The Monarch <cite>Thermador446 posted [p:976378380] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>Fuck working to the day I die </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Enclave 09/29/23 2:55:02 PM #132:	ArchonKnight posted... Jesus christ, she took it very personally It was a real "fuck them kids" moment. --- The commercial says that Church isn't for perfect people, I guess that's why I'm an atheist. <cite>Enclave posted [p:976378460] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>ArchonKnight posted... </cite><quote>Jesus christ, she took it very personally</quote>It was a real "fuck them kids" moment. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 09/29/23 2:59:19 PM #133:	Enclave posted... It was a real "fuck them kids" moment. Fair. Kids suck <cite>Axiom posted [p:976378526] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>Enclave posted... </cite><quote>It was a real "fuck them kids" moment.</quote>Fair. Kids suck</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bknight 09/29/23 3:00:49 PM #134:	Rule of 3, plenty of old politicians, smart money would be on Mitch. <cite>bknight posted [p:976378554] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>Rule of 3, plenty of old politicians, smart money would be on Mitch.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Westernwolf4 09/29/23 3:01:00 PM #135:	Tom_Joad posted... What's the line? Health and mental capabilities. First, RIP tp Senator Feinstein, who did a lot of good work for America (and some bad too, but more good than bad). Second, this kind of sentiment can be dangerous in a democracy. Health and capability at every age vary greatly from person to person. If age is not an election issue for voters to ponder as part of their decision, who gets to decide who has adequate "health and mental capabilities" to stay in office? If it is not voters deciding an individual is not fit, then that presents some democracy problems. If we do a strict cut off age for all, then we just need to acknowledge that we will lose out on considering some good leaders that way. Because not everyone loses their ability to function on their 60th birthday. I obviously don't think Senator Feinstein should have been there at 90, and I think an age cut off for politicians is worth discussing (as long as we acknowledge the drawbacks too). But I hate this discussion because it lets our fellow American voters off the hook for their stupid decisions. The truth is, we have a system right now where voters can take factors like age into account when deciding who will lead them-they get to decide every election. If we start talking about age cutoffs and removing people from office when someone deems they are no longer adequate to the task, then we are basically saying that the electorate is too stupid and untrustworthy to make their own decisions. And maybe they are! People keep voting for Donald Trump in droves, and he is the least qualified, dumbest and most corrupt person to ever hold a public office. One of the great disappointments of my adult life is the realization that the electorate in my country is basically a clown car. All I am saying is that if we start deciding for voters who they can vote for and why, it seems to put this whole democracy thing in a little more peril every time. Because who knows what policy we will come up with next to decide who should be barred from holding and office? Again, maybe we have to do something so people are not permitted to hold power into their 90s. It is a worthy discussion. Lets talk about it for federal judges while we are here. But lets not pretend there wasn't a way to take care of this before. There was. Voters need to start making some better and more informed decisions, or none of this is going to matter at all. --- An opinion does not turn into a fact simply because the person holding it feels strongly about it. <cite>Westernwolf4 posted [p:976378556] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>Tom_Joad posted... </cite><quote>What's the line?</quote>Health and mental capabilities.First, RIP tp Senator Feinstein, who did a lot of good work for America (and some bad too, but more good than bad).Second, this kind of sentiment can be dangerous in a democracy. Health and capability at every age vary greatly from person to person. If age is not an election issue for voters to ponder as part of their decision, who gets to decide who has adequate "health and mental capabilities" to stay in office? If it is not voters deciding an individual is not fit, then that presents some democracy problems. If we do a strict cut off age for all, then we just need to acknowledge that we will lose out on considering some good leaders that way. Because not everyone loses their ability to function on their 60th birthday.I obviously don't think Senator Feinstein should have been there at 90, and I think an age cut off for politicians is worth discussing (as long as we acknowledge the drawbacks too). But I hate this discussion because it lets our fellow American voters off the hook for their stupid decisions. The truth is, we have a system right now where voters can take factors like age into account when deciding who will lead them-they get to decide every election. If we start talking about age cutoffs and removing people from office when someone deems they are no longer adequate to the task, then we are basically saying that the electorate is too stupid and untrustworthy to make their own decisions.And maybe they are! People keep voting for Donald Trump in droves, and he is the least qualified, dumbest and most corrupt person to ever hold a public office. One of the great disappointments of my adult life is the realization that the electorate in my country is basically a clown car. All I am saying is that if we start deciding for voters who they can vote for and why, it seems to put this whole democracy thing in a little more peril every time. Because who knows what policy we will come up with next to decide who should be barred from holding and office?Again, maybe we have to do something so people are not permitted to hold power into their 90s. It is a worthy discussion. Lets talk about it for federal judges while we are here. But lets not pretend there wasn't a way to take care of this before. There was. Voters need to start making some better and more informed decisions, or none of this is going to matter at all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ForsakenHermit 09/29/23 3:47:53 PM #136:	She shouldn't have run for reelection in 2018. But that's a moot point now, condolences to her family. RIP. --- Beware the fanatic! Too often his cure is deadlier by far than the evil he denounces!-Stan Lee RIP Make Arcades Great Again! <cite>ForsakenHermit posted [p:976379328] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>She shouldn't have run for reelection in 2018.But that's a moot point now, condolences to her family. RIP. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 09/29/23 3:55:04 PM #137:	Enclave posted... I wish somebody had told her that when she was talking down to kids. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIebWywFfNw "I know what I'm doing" she said as she was literally taking dementia medication. Then proceeds to die without finishing her term that she bragged about being elected for. I hope that person she suggested run for Senate actually does some day. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:976379453] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>Enclave posted... </cite><quote>I wish somebody had told her that when she was talking down to kids.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIebWywFfNw</quote>"I know what I'm doing" she said as she was literally taking dementia medication. Then proceeds to die without finishing her term that she bragged about being elected for. I hope that person she suggested run for Senate actually does some day. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Charged151 09/29/23 4:02:52 PM #138:	ForsakenHermit posted... She shouldn't have run for reelection in 2018. But that's a moot point now, condolences to her family. RIP. Agree on both points. --- I'm...the...master...of...ellipses... <cite>Charged151 posted [p:976379565] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>ForsakenHermit posted... </cite><quote>She shouldn't have run for reelection in 2018.But that's a moot point now, condolences to her family. RIP.</quote>Agree on both points. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kyujo 09/29/23 4:26:56 PM #139:	RIP --- Now Playing: TotK, AW, DW:NO Last Watched: The Last of Us, Secret Invasion <cite>kyujo posted [p:976379930] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>RIP </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VFalcone 09/29/23 4:48:14 PM #140:	bknight posted... Rule of 3, plenty of old politicians, smart money would be on Mitch. Mitch is definitely next <cite>VFalcone posted [p:976380264] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>bknight posted... </cite><quote>Rule of 3, plenty of old politicians, smart money would be on Mitch.</quote>Mitch is definitely next </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
justaguy3492 09/29/23 4:56:37 PM #141:	One of the sharpest stock traders our country has ever seen! Her completely legitimate financial genius will be missed. --- Gt: justaguy3492 <cite>justaguy3492 posted [p:976380414] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>One of the sharpest stock traders our country has ever seen! Her completely legitimate financial genius will be missed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Intro2Logic 09/29/23 5:06:56 PM #142:	Crimson_Corsair posted... This wasn't even a lifetime appointment. Fucking Californians, complaining about old ass fossils in government while simultaneously failing to primary the cryptstalkers wife for the better part of three decades. Smh So, California has a top-two primary system, where there's only one primary and the top two vote getters advance to the general. In 2018, this was Feinstein and Democratic challenger Kevin De Leon, who campaigned to her left. Feinstein won the general 54-45, presumably with a good chunk of support coming from Republican voters, without a candidate on the ballot, looking to keep a progressive out office. --- Have you tried thinking rationally? <cite>Intro2Logic posted [p:976380590] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>Crimson_Corsair posted... </cite><quote>This wasn't even a lifetime appointment. Fucking Californians, complaining about old ass fossils in government while simultaneously failing to primary the cryptstalkers wife for the better part of three decades.Smh</quote>So, California has a top-two primary system, where there's only one primary and the top two vote getters advance to the general. In 2018, this was Feinstein and Democratic challenger Kevin De Leon, who campaigned to her left. Feinstein won the general 54-45, presumably with a good chunk of support coming from Republican voters, without a candidate on the ballot, looking to keep a progressive out office. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarcyWarcy 09/29/23 5:09:29 PM #143:	it was amazingly bad that they were carting her around like nothing was wrong for the past year. i can only imagine how confused she was for most of it --- Looks like this gamer's paradise has turned into a gamer's hell............................................... <cite>MarcyWarcy posted [p:976380627] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>it was amazingly bad that they were carting her around like nothing was wrong for the past year. i can only imagine how confused she was for most of it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sariana21 09/29/23 5:34:14 PM #144:	Intro2Logic posted... So, California has a top-two primary system, where there's only one primary and the top two vote getters advance to the general. In 2018, this was Feinstein and Democratic challenger Kevin De Leon, who campaigned to her left. Feinstein won the general 54-45, presumably with a good chunk of support coming from Republican voters, without a candidate on the ballot, looking to keep a progressive out office. De Leon turned out to be a POS. Im glad I didnt vote for him. --- ___ Sari, Mom to DS (07/04) and DD (01/08); Pronouns: she/her/hers <cite>Sariana21 posted [p:976381040] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>Intro2Logic posted... </cite><quote>So, California has a top-two primary system, where there's only one primary and the top two vote getters advance to the general. In 2018, this was Feinstein and Democratic challenger Kevin De Leon, who campaigned to her left. Feinstein won the general 54-45, presumably with a good chunk of support coming from Republican voters, without a candidate on the ballot, looking to keep a progressive out office.</quote>De Leon turned out to be a POS. Im glad I didnt vote for him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CoyoteTheGreat 09/29/23 10:23:30 PM #145:	She was easily one of the worst Senators the Democrats currently have. Only Menendez could beat her out for corruption, stupidity and uselessness. Her legacy shouldnt be whitewashed, it should be condemned in the strongest way possible so we dont encourage other politicians to act as selfishly as she did. --- Disobedience is the stamp of the hero. -Ragnar Redbeard Also, this is Kagata.. <cite>CoyoteTheGreat posted [p:976385739] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>She was easily one of the worst Senators the Democrats currently have. Only Menendez could beat her out for corruption, stupidity and uselessness. Her legacy shouldnt be whitewashed, it should be condemned in the strongest way possible so we dont encourage other politicians to act as selfishly as she did. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inohira 09/29/23 10:29:04 PM #146:	Sariana21 posted... De Leon turned out to be a POS. Im glad I didnt vote for him. Well it's possible to abstain from voting when both candidates are shit. Considering no Republican was competitive in that race, really nothing was forcing a vote for Feinstein or de Leon... --- 1 line break(s), 121 characters allowed <cite>Inohira posted [p:976385832] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>Sariana21 posted...</cite><quote>De Leon turned out to be a POS. Im glad I didnt vote for him. </quote>Well it's possible to abstain from voting when both candidates are shit. Considering no Republican was competitive in that race, really nothing was forcing a vote for Feinstein or de Leon... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlingBling22947 09/29/23 10:30:04 PM #147:	Henry Kissinger is still alive. --- When was the last time you heard your boy Nas rhyme? Never on schedule but always on time <cite>BlingBling22947 posted [p:976385846] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>Henry Kissinger is still alive. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jumi 09/29/23 11:42:47 PM #149:	SimulationSwarm posted... Re: Barbara Lee. I highly doubt she gets appointed when shes actively running for the seat in 2024. It would give her an unfair advantage. Its a complicated issue because you want to appoint someone that is only gonna serve this temporary term and not try to retain the seat Why? Why do people want someone that won't run for reelection? --- XBL Gamertag: Rob Thorsman Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/robertvsilvers <cite>jumi posted [p:976386849] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>SimulationSwarm posted... </cite><quote>Re: Barbara Lee. I highly doubt she gets appointed when shes actively running for the seat in 2024. It would give her an unfair advantage. Its a complicated issue because you want to appoint someone that is only gonna serve this temporary term and not try to retain the seat</quote>Why? Why do people want someone that won't run for reelection? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 09/29/23 11:51:44 PM #150:	From a "political calculus" point of view, her problem was running again in 2018, not that she didn't step down recently, as her stepping down runs into similar problems with judicial committee, etc. --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:976386968] in Dianne Fei... [t:80580419]...</cite> <quote>From a "political calculus" point of view, her problem was running again in 2018, not that she didn't step down recently, as her stepping down runs into similar problems with judicial committee, etc. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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