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Sandalorn
08/30/23 2:16:02 PM
#100:


LOL...I love the Sony fanboys meltdown over Starfield. It has gotten so pathetic you have numerous reviewers, etc talking about how childish it is all over youtube.

I'll be playing it in a day because gamers play games...not whine and piss their pants because one game is exclusive. I'd say grow up but I think that ship has sailed.

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Murphiroth
08/30/23 2:18:28 PM
#101:


Any genuine criticism of this thing is just gonna be dismissed as Sony fanboyism isn't it?
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SwayM
08/30/23 2:18:53 PM
#102:


Sandalorn posted...
LOL...I love the Sony fanboys meltdown over Starfield. It has gotten so pathetic you have multiple reviewers, etc talking about how childish it is all over youtube.

I'll be playing it in a day because gamers play games...not whine and piss their pants because one game is exclusive. I'd say grow up but I think that ship has sailed.

I think theres a huge maturity difference between Xbox and PlayStation users. Ive never seen anyone nitpicking GOW like this, as easily one could because it all salty BS.

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ssb_yunglink2
08/30/23 2:20:50 PM
#104:


Bethesda games have never really been my thing in general. I just think it looks kind of boring tbh
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Akuryu
08/30/23 2:20:59 PM
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Murphiroth posted...
Any genuine criticism of this thing is just gonna be dismissed as Sony fanboyism isn't it?
Yep. I'm actually looking forward to the game. I even sprang for early access. But come on... there's some "my face is tired" stuff in here.
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pikakaeru
08/30/23 2:21:32 PM
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The npcharacters look like PS2 models.

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Murphiroth
08/30/23 2:21:54 PM
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Fair enough, I personally was immediately turned off the second I saw a conversation and it's still the same jank as Skyrim.
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Sandalorn
08/30/23 2:22:13 PM
#108:


SwayM posted...
I think theres a huge maturity difference between Xbox and PlayStation users. Ive never seen anyone nitpicking GOW like this, as easily one could because it all salty BS.


When BG3 came out the only anger was that it was going to be a bit until Xbox owners could play it. There was no "This game is going to suck because I can't play it". Now we are a month later and ALL you hear is little sad boys and girls throwing tantrums. It's not a surprise it is the main talk around gaming right now. But you are right...this is just what the Sony fanbase is.

In the end, I will get to play it and they can melt down over it. True Gamers win.

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Requiem
08/30/23 2:22:15 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
They updated gamebryo significantly. It's not the same thing they use to use anymore.

Kinda like Valve and Source.

Yeah, but it still has limitations on number of animations and whatnot, right?
I've heard (and correct me if I'm wrong) that that was the reason why certain weapons/actions were removed from each successive TES games.

Add new movement, they had to remove an old one to make space.

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Heineken14
08/30/23 2:22:16 PM
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NoxObscuras posted...

Yep. After the leak, a lot of people were upset to learn that they can't fully explore the planets like in No Man's Sky.

But that's why I think Starfield will be fine. They aren't trying to go beyond a scale that they can handle


Honestly, hearing that makes me more interested in the game. I loved No Man's Sky for what it was, but at the same time, I think it's expansiveness hurts it.

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Gwynevere
08/30/23 2:22:49 PM
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Murphiroth posted...
Any genuine criticism of this thing is just gonna be dismissed as Sony fanboyism isn't it?
Either that or dismissal as "people hate popular thing"

I'm just not sure what this is supposed to offer that stuff like Elite Dangerous, NMS, or Stellaris don't offer. Like what am I supposed to get from Starfield that I can't get from any number of other space centric titles?

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Axiom
08/30/23 2:24:24 PM
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Gwynevere posted...
It sucks shit that these huge games always chase a realistic art direction that looks dated by the time it comes out compared to going for something more stylized. Stylized art styles always age better
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Tyranthraxus
08/30/23 2:24:54 PM
#114:


Requiem posted...
Yeah, but it still has limitations on number of animations and whatnot, right?
I've heard (and correct me if I'm wrong) that that was the reason why certain weapons/actions were removed from each successive TES games.

Add new movement, they had to remove an old one to make space.

The limitations were dramatically increased when they released Skyrim AE and you can further extend them with mods.

It's unlikely anyone will ever completely fill up the slots for assets without intentionally trying to.

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Sandalorn
08/30/23 2:25:06 PM
#115:


Gwynevere posted...
Either that or dismissal as "people hate popular thing"

I'm just not sure what this is supposed to offer that stuff like Elite Dangerous, NMS, or Stellaris don't offer. Like what am I supposed to get from Starfield that I can't get from any number of other space centric titles?


Play it and find out. Oh Shit, sorry you know everything about the game already...My bad. When did you get an advance copy to play?

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Heineken14
08/30/23 2:25:54 PM
#116:


Gwynevere posted...

Either that or dismissal as "people hate popular thing"

I'm just not sure what this is supposed to offer that stuff like Elite Dangerous, NMS, or Stellaris don't offer. Like what am I supposed to get from Starfield that I can't get from any number of other space centric titles?


It seems like it'd be more for a lighter space exploration/combat with heavier ground based exploration/combat. Elite Dangerous does not have that (I don't believe, been awhile since I've even looked at that) and No Man's Sky has it, but their ground combat is atrocious. No clue about Stellaris.

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CADE_FOSTER
08/30/23 2:26:48 PM
#117:


Murphiroth posted...
Any genuine criticism of this thing is just gonna be dismissed as Sony fanboyism isn't it?
xbox fanboys are die hard man cant tell them anything
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ssb_yunglink2
08/30/23 2:27:51 PM
#119:


Sandalorn posted...
Play it and find out. Oh Shit, sorry you know everything about the game already...My bad. When did you get an advance copy to play?
damn calm down lmao
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Axiom
08/30/23 2:28:01 PM
#120:


Heineken14 posted...
It seems like it'd be more for a lighter space exploration/combat with heavier ground based exploration/combat. Elite Dangerous does not have that (I don't believe, been awhile since I've even looked at that) and No Man's Sky has it, but their ground combat is atrocious. No clue about Stellaris.
Stellaris isn't really comparable as it's a 4x strategy and also much better than the other two and probably even Starfield. Elite Dangerous is just a straight up garbo sim with completely imcompetent devs. NMS has come a long way but even with all the additions is still so boring
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SwayM
08/30/23 2:30:29 PM
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Gwynevere posted...
Either that or dismissal as "people hate popular thing"

I'm just not sure what this is supposed to offer that stuff like Elite Dangerous, NMS, or Stellaris don't offer. Like what am I supposed to get from Starfield that I can't get from any number of other space centric titles?

Im not sure why Wendys exist when McDonalds is just across the street.

I hope that puts in perspective what a bonkers take this is.

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Requiem
08/30/23 2:30:33 PM
#123:


Tyranthraxus posted...
The limitations were dramatically increased when they released Skyrim AE and you can further extend them with mods.

It's unlikely anyone will ever completely fill up the slots for assets without intentionally trying to.

Wait.
Does this mean we might finally get spears back?
Or more options in combat?

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punkfanalways
08/30/23 2:32:32 PM
#124:


It's a massive open world Bethesda game. The graphics were never going to be groundbreaking.

Compared to Skyrim it's amazing.
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Tyranthraxus
08/30/23 2:37:49 PM
#125:


Requiem posted...
Wait.
Does this mean we might finally get spears back?
Or more options in combat?

There's already spears in mods. Whether this will become a default in ES6 is unknown.

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Sandalorn
08/30/23 2:38:06 PM
#126:


I love the "You can't walk the entirety of 1000 planets". What a joke!"

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ColonizedMind
08/30/23 2:39:30 PM
#127:


Sandalorn posted...
I love the "You can't walk the entirety of 1000 planets". What a joke!"

It's amazing that he can straight up lie like that.

"You can explore a tiny square of a planet that has nothing on it and looks exactly like all the other planets except this one is a bit more yellow"
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Funkydog
08/30/23 2:40:22 PM
#128:


Requiem posted...
Wait.
Does this mean we might finally get spears back?
Or more options in combat?
That already exists for legendary edition pretty sure, mod wise.

If Bethesda will ever do it themselves...?

Maybe for 6?

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Heineken14
08/30/23 2:41:09 PM
#129:


Asherlee10 posted...


I'm glad I wasn't the only one that didn't like Elite Dangerous


Yeah, got into a space exploration itch awhile ago and looking between Elite Dangerous and No Man's Sky and Elite just eh... I don't really want to just fly around and shit. Seemed like it would have gotten more boring a loot sooner than No Man's Sky did.

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Tyranthraxus
08/30/23 2:44:04 PM
#130:


Heineken14 posted...
Yeah, got into a space exploration itch awhile ago and looking between Elite Dangerous and No Man's Sky and Elite just eh... I don't really want to just fly around and shit. Seemed like it would have gotten more boring a loot sooner than No Man's Sky did.

If you had issues with not enough shit in Elite Dangerous consider the evochron series.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGMxGtLOvMU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha14-QSjsjQ

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JacobyCrane
08/30/23 2:46:02 PM
#131:


Gwynevere posted...
Either that or dismissal as "people hate popular thing"

I'm just not sure what this is supposed to offer that stuff like Elite Dangerous, NMS, or Stellaris don't offer. Like what am I supposed to get from Starfield that I can't get from any number of other space centric titles?

I find lines of thinking like this weird. If Starfield is good you get another good game out of it?

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DepreceV2
08/30/23 2:46:30 PM
#132:


Its wild to me that such a big deal is being made out of the least important aspect of the game IMO. Its like when people were getting mad at Starfields main menu. These things barely matter to me at all. Its like complaining that the Cherry on top of my Ice Cream isnt sweet enough

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Revocation68
08/30/23 2:48:04 PM
#133:


Jfc Bethesda get some new animations already
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Requiem
08/30/23 2:48:35 PM
#134:


I've seen modded spears for Skyrim (and I think Oblivion, though it's hazy)... but I seem to recall they all basically worked like a sword that just happened to look like a spear (same grip, stance, movement, etc etc).

Did they make mods that has spear-like animation?


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Tyranthraxus
08/30/23 2:51:15 PM
#135:


JacobyCrane posted...
I find lines of thinking like this weird. If Starfield is good you get another good game out of it?
Mostly though to answer the question, games like Elite are more like space sims that have an objective treadmill analogous to quests. Starfield is a full on RPG and it will be very different and play very differently.

It's like saying why play Symphony of the Night when Dracula X already exists? Outside of some superficial similarities, the games are completely different.

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Tyranthraxus
08/30/23 2:53:35 PM
#136:


Requiem posted...
I've seen modded spears for Skyrim (and I think Oblivion, though it's hazy)... but I seem to recall they all basically worked like a sword that just happened to look like a spear (same grip, stance, movement, etc etc).

Did they make mods that has spear-like animation?

Modding in animations requires FNIS or something similar and isn't plug & play but yes there are mods that add unique spear animations.


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Requiem
08/30/23 2:54:57 PM
#137:


Nice

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codey
08/30/23 2:56:17 PM
#138:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Mostly though to answer the question, games like Elite are more like space sims that have an objective treadmill analogous to quests. Starfield is a full on RPG and it will be very different and play very differently.

It's like saying why play Symphony of the Night when Dracula X already exists? Outside of some superficial similarities, the games are completely different.

And even if Starfield was intended to be a space sim like Elite Dangerous, why is that a problem? You get multiple games in a barren genre, what's the issue?

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hockeybub89
08/30/23 2:56:49 PM
#139:


Fallout 4 wasn't even bad.

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Requiem
08/30/23 2:57:59 PM
#140:


Now, we all wait for the piloting space flight/combat trailer.
Bonus points if you can dogfight or fight air to surface on the planet/atmosphere.

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ironman2009
08/30/23 2:58:07 PM
#141:


hockeybub89 posted...
Fallout 4 wasn't even bad.

Only thing I didn't like was giving the MC a voice

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Vyrulisse
08/30/23 2:58:41 PM
#142:


hockeybub89 posted...
Fallout 4 wasn't even bad.
It was a terrible RPG and I enjoyed Fallout 4.

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Heavy_D_Forever
08/30/23 3:01:58 PM
#143:


I'm positive if this wasn't Xbox/PC exclusive then the trolling wouldn't be nearly as widespread.

I love big AAA open world games in general and this looks like a great addition to that space. Also I have Game Pass so it's awesome they included this game on that service.

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hyperpowder
08/30/23 3:03:26 PM
#144:


After just beating Cyberpunk after all its fixed. I have a feeling Starfield isnt gonna come close to the enjoyment I just had with Cyberpunk.

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Vyrulisse
08/30/23 3:10:53 PM
#145:


Heavy_D_Forever posted...
I'm positive if this wasn't Xbox/PC exclusive then the trolling wouldn't be nearly as widespread.

I love big AAA open world games in general and this looks like a great addition to that space. Also I have Game Pass so it's awesome they included this game on that service.

This is such a cope and I see a lot of Xbox people parroting it.
It's like everyone is supposed to forget Bethesda's history because they're owned by Microsoft now.
I liked Fallout 4 and 76 but can also recognize their patterns of deception and lies along with how each game seems more stripped down and casual as RPGs than the last.

Edit: That being said, I really hope Starfield proves me wrong and bucks the trend I've seen with their games.

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NoxObscuras
08/30/23 3:18:24 PM
#146:


ironman2009 posted...
Only thing I didn't like was giving the MC a voice
I personally loved that. I don't create my own scenarios or anything like that, so the whole silent protagonist thing in RPG's does nothing for me

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Smashingpmkns
08/30/23 3:22:02 PM
#147:


I use my Series X way more than I use my PS5 and I still think Starfield looks kinda ass tbh.

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brestugo
08/30/23 3:39:13 PM
#148:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/1/2/AAcJoVAAEw1k.jpg

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Heineken14
08/30/23 3:45:46 PM
#149:


Tyranthraxus posted...


If you had issues with not enough shit in Elite Dangerous consider the evochron series.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGMxGtLOvMU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha14-QSjsjQ


Man, I knew there was a game out there that I saw that looked promising and could not remember the name of it for the life of me. Finally found it!

Spaceborne 2. Not sure how good it is or didn't look into it any further than apparently watching this video back in March.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdlOG5XjKKY

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