Current Events > I keep gaining weight even though I don't eat that much.

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Get on a treadmill.

BlackOmnimon posted...

-8-9 am - milk glass in the morning after waking up

Sugar

BlackOmnimon posted...

-10 am - breakfast: simple sandwich with ham and cheese, or cheese quesadillas with corn tortillas. sometimes roasted hot dog/sausage and lightly fried eggs

Carbs

BlackOmnimon posted...

- chocolate milk or juice to go with breakfast

A shit ton of sugar

BlackOmnimon posted...

8-9 pm - for dinner, a glass of milk or yogurt, sometimes a sandwhich

Sugar and carbs

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This. Nutrition is 80% of the battle. Youre not going to out burn the calories you eat unless you train like Michael Phelps or something. The calories you burn in an hour of exercise can be undone by eating basically anything.

Yeah like others have said, you may not feel like you're eating a lot of calories, but between all of that milk and the bread, you're adding on a lot. 8 oz of whole milk is roughly 150 calories, so 3 times a day is 450. A slice of bread on average is 80 calories per slice. So a sandwich for breakfast and dinner comes to 320 calories worth of bread.

That's 770 calories just from the milk and bread. And that's not even accounting for the potential that your milk servings are larger than 8 ounces.

A calorie tracker will do wonders for keeping you aware of your caloric deficit

PraetorXyn posted...

This. Nutrition is 80% of the battle. Youre not going to out burn the calories you eat unless you train like Michael Phelps or something. The calories you burn in an hour of exercise can be undone by eating basically anything.

working out and exercising is more than about losing weight.

the substantial benefits to increasing your heart rate reduce things like heart disease and diabetes and other things.

plus the mental impact it has.

chrono625 posted...

working out and exercising is more than about losing weight.

the substantial benefits to increasing your heart rate reduce things like heart disease and diabetes and other things.

plus the mental impact it has.

Yes. But from a weight loss standpoint, the most significant thing it will do for you is that every pound of muscle you put on burns a certain amount of calories by itself without you having to do anything I want to say 50 calories?

But increasing your heart rate will increase your metabolism as well, allowing you to properly metabolize and absorb your intake.

for TC if he cant fix his diet, some exercise will burn fat as he will not be eating enough calories.

eat less than the energy you expend. it doesn't matter what your diet is if you sit on your ass all day. your diet won't help with weight loss unless it's way less than what you regularly eat vs what you do throughout the day. you can eat nothing but quinoa and still turn into a balloon if all you do is sit on your ass. and no 1 hour of exercise after work is not enough if you're still taking in more calories than you burn.

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I workout on stepmania like once a week, should probably do more. I sweat a ridicuous amount every time though.

I'll try to cut out milk completely and skip breakfast/only eat 1 boiled egg for breakfast for a week to see what the results are, right now I weight 218 lbs and i'm 5'9"

BlackOmnimon posted...

I workout on stepmania like once a week, should probably do more. I sweat a ridicuous amount every time though.

I'll try to cut out milk completely and skip breakfast/only eat 1 boiled egg for breakfast for a week to see what the results are, right now I weight 218 lbs and i'm 5'9"

skipping meals isnt the answer. Unless you can really do intermittent fastening.

eat three meals a day but with smart calories.

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The chocolate milk will be way more than regular milk. That breakfast is way more than 300.

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See my estimate was more like 2500-3000 calories a day, for a couple of reasons. The first and main reason is that people who talk like the OP ("I sometimes have a snack", and "I don't even eat that much but I'm putting on weight") are usually downplaying their intake severely, whether intentionally or not. And remember, he's putting on weight. There's no way a grown man is noticeably putting on weight at 1500 calories unless he's 130lbs and completely couch-locked.

My estimate is more like:

-8-9 am - milk glass in the morning after waking up -- "200ish calories if you are drinking about a 1.5 cups" - fair.
-10 am - breakfast: simple sandwich with ham and cheese, or cheese quesadillas with corn tortillas. sometimes roasted hot dog/sausage and lightly fried eggs -- I think you're wildly off here. 300 would be the bottom end and would only account for 2 fried eggs, nevermind the hot dog. Depending on how he makes the quesadilla I'm thinking closer to 1000 calories. Let's split the difference and say 600.
- chocolate milk or juice to go with breakfast - I think you're looking at more like 300 calories here.
- water and zero sugar soda through the day
- 3-4pm - usually, soup or rice, with some roasted chicken or meat and steamed veggies - 400 calories is not unreasonable, but given the rest of the context I bet its more. Say 600.
only sometimes something sweet for dessert, like cookies or mangoes - In other words most of the time something sweet for desert, which could be anywhere from 500 calories to another 1000 calories.
8-9 pm - for dinner, a glass of milk or yogurt, sometimes a sandwhich - "200 to 500ish" calories is fair.

OP - the sad thing is that you're eating a lot of calories but as you've noticed, you're not eating a lot of food. That's because your nutrition quality is pretty garbage, sorry. When you eat crap all day you can have very tiny amounts and chalk up a huge amount of calories and still be hungry. You need grains, fibre, vegetables and more protein.

So today I just have had a small Activia yogurt which according to the labels should be a bit over 100 calories, and won't have anything but water until the evening. Also checked, and the orange juice I usually drink is 0 calories so I'll also have some of that.

BlackOmnimon posted...

So today I just have had a small Activia yogurt which according to the labels should be a bit over 100 calories, and won't have anything but water until the evening. Also checked, and the orange juice I usually drink is 0 calories so I'll also have some of that.

Jfc you didn't listen to anything in this topic

ArkhamOrigins posted...

Jfc you didn't listen to anything in this topic

I chose to listen to the people ITT who said those things are OK. They made strong arguments.

Kloe_Rinz posted...

Is that stuff about the zero cal coke killing your sugar tastebuds true? I know sweetener is thousands of times more sweet than sugar, but isnt that negated by the fact that they use thousands of times less sweetener and therefore its diluted more?

I do drink a few litres of Pepsi max a week. Usually 2-3 small bottles a week with lunch and then sometimes just by itself as well

Diet soda is saccharine compared to regular soda. That absolutely distorts a persons sense of taste and tolerance for sweetness, kind of like if you had hot sauce on every meal youd get used to it.

You shouldnt drink soda just because of how much it destroys your teeth to begin with. Diet soda isnt worse for you than regular soda though.

BlackOmnimon posted...

So today I just have had a small Activia yogurt which according to the labels should be a bit over 100 calories, and won't have anything but water until the evening. Also checked, and the orange juice I usually drink is 0 calories so I'll also have some of that.

you gotta eat more than that in order for your body to burn fat. just eat better stuff. as close to zero sugar and zero carbs as you can get.

I'd recommend intermittent fasting too. It's what got me down to my current weight

Will_VIIII posted...

I'd recommend intermittent fasting too. It's what got me down to my current weight

This times ten.

i dont do breakfast. just lunch and dinner between 12pm-8pm. it helps immensely. you still get good food by sacrificing the morning load

also kill the zero sugar soda. it's a scam

For me personally I cut out all dairy and added sugar except from the occasional greek yogurt. Also I try and keep processed food to a bare minimum. Only drink coffee, water, and rarely beer as a treat.

Breakfast: buttered toast and banana, or greek yogurt with fruit and oats
Lunch: either dinner leftovers, or sushi, or half a sandwich and specialty salad from a local shop
Snacks: carrots or mini cucumbers
Dinner: a protein and big portion of vegetables

Again this is me and what works. I always seem to gain weight when I dont limit dairy and sugar. I lose it when I do. Focusing on proteins and veg at dinner probably helps too.

Are you sure you don't have any tumors?

Why so much milk? Milk isn't even that good lol (although chocolate milk is great)

pojr posted...

Why so much milk? Milk isn't even that good lol (although chocolate milk is great)

I've always loved milk. It was the hardest thing for me to cut out of my diet.

Some bad advice ITT. Here's the simple fact. You can have your breakfast sandwich in the morning, but switch the bread to https://www.daveskillerbread.com/ products, very good. I ate 4 eggs, spinnach and a bagel and lost 25 pounds while eating that every day for breakfast. It's all about the positives and negatives of what you put into your body and obviously yes you have to move. Always try to add greens to your meals, they boost your metabolism very well and believe it or not the order of how you eat things matter too, so always eat the veggies first. An easy, fullfilling and tasty dinner is zucchini, chicken breast and half of a cup (makes 1 cup) of rice of your choosing. Try to stay away from drinking your calories. It'll take a week or so, but train yourself on water. I'll give more recs but here is a baseline you can follow. Greens, protein, movement (walking does the trick) is key.

AirFresh posted...

Some bad advice ITT. Here's the simple fact. You can have your breakfast sandwich in the morning, but switch the bread to https://www.daveskillerbread.com/ products, very good. I ate 4 eggs, spinnach and a bagel and lost 25 pounds while eating that every day for breakfast. It's all about the positives and negatives of what you put into your body and obviously yes you have to move. Always try to add greens to your meals, they boost your metabolism very well and believe it or not the order of how you eat things matter too, so always eat the veggies first. An easy, fullfilling and tasty dinner is zucchini, chicken breast and half of a cup (makes 1 cup) of rice of your choosing. Try to stay away from drinking your calories. It'll take a week or so, but train yourself on water. I'll give more recs but here is a baseline you can follow. Greens, protein, movement (walking does the trick) is key.

Should I eat or should keep my stress in check.

Poorly posted...

Should I eat or should keep my stress in check.

To maximize weight loss, you should neither eat nor keep your stress in check.

I wanna see this 0 calorie orange juice, also

AloneIBreak posted...

To maximize weight loss, you should neither eat nor keep your stress in check.

Also, donate organs.

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Whole. My dad had trouble keeping weight on, so that is what we had around the house. Wasn't an issue growing up. Most of the time I needed the extra calories myself due to puberty or sports. It wasn't until college and my "freshman 15" was closer to a "freshman 50" because I kept eating like I was still training.

I didnt read all the posts but wanted to jump in to defend milk. My husband drinks milk (fat free) every day and has done most of his life, and hes skinny as a rail (6 155 lbs). Milk is not the enemy.

He does run 3 miles at least 3 times a week and does lots of strength work.

TC, I agree with those who recommended keeping a food diary. You probably dont have a good grasp of what youre actually consuming. Dont try to cut back so drastically (just an Activia!). Make reasonable, gradual changes you can stick with in th doing term, and up your activity.

BlackOmnimon posted...

So today I just have had a small Activia yogurt which according to the labels should be a bit over 100 calories, and won't have anything but water until the evening. Also checked, and the orange juice I usually drink is 0 calories so I'll also have some of that.

If you've been eating a large breakfast, cutting to a serving of yogurt and a glass of orange juice is going to be miserable. Consider some things that have more volume - I really like to sautee up a handful of spinach with breakfast eggs, though other greens would be fine too.

I have a hard time believing that any 0 calorie orange juice is either made of oranges or actually juice. Is it possible you misread the label and it's actually 0 sugar added OJ? If it isn't...try real hard to either switch to water or just get real orange juice. You'd be better off drinking water and eating a <fruit of your choice> instead, but I think it's fair to have a small indulgence.

Stop drinking so much milk. You are not a child.

I don't care if other people do it without weight issues. Depending on glass size, it is likely about 300 calories a day. If all other eating and exercise stays the same, that is about 30 pounds a year

Sariana21 posted...

I didnt read all the posts but wanted to jump in to defend milk. My husband drinks milk (fat free) every day and has done most of his life, and hes skinny as a rail (6 155 lbs). Milk is not the enemy.

He does run 3 miles at least 3 times a week and does lots of strength work.

Milk on its own is not a problem, but when you are consistently eating in caloric excess, removing or limiting it is an easy way to knock down your daily calorie total.

Main thing I wanted to point out is in the context of OPs weight gain, fat free means absolutely nothing. Calories are what matter, not whether it comes from carbs, protein, or fat.

Marketing really got one over on us here in the US. So many people think fat fee means its healthy, makes it a healthier alternative, or wont contribute to weight gain. Its about as far from the truth as you can get. You can eat all your food as fat free and youre still going to gain weight if you are eating in caloric surplus.

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Got it. So, definitely not orange juice. The sweetener used there is sucralose (splenda). You'd be better swapping to regular water, but it's probably fine. Just be aware, there's NO nutrition there, just hydration.

Going all day without eating is not the solution here, you're just gonna be miserable all the time and it's generally unhealthy to go without any calories or nutrients fueling your body.

Just cut out the milk and sandwiches and look up recipes for cooking with good ingredients. Vegetables, lean meats, fish.

Sariana21 posted...

I didnt read all the posts but wanted to jump in to defend milk. My husband drinks milk (fat free) every day and has done most of his life, and hes skinny as a rail (6 155 lbs). Milk is not the enemy.

This means literally nothing. Until I turned 20 or so I lived on pizza, burgers, Mountain Dew / Dr. Pepper, Little Debbie, Reeses cups, southern fried cooking, etc. all of which are demonstrably bad for you and I never gained a pound, Im 510 and weighed probably 135-145 as a senior in high school. Then my metabolism fell off a cliff. If his metabolism is high enough, he could eat whatever he wants.

However, you did say fat free, and skim milk is basically water anyway. The point is, a typical glass of milk is probably about 120 calories at least, and chocolate milk is more like 300, and so about a quarter of OPs daily calorie intake was from milk, which is stupid.

He does run 3 miles at least 3 times a week and does lots of strength work.

This would explain his probable high metabolism.

Don't get your nutritional advice from CE.

Start utilizing a free food diary site like fatsecret or myfitnesspal. Get a week or two of data of your normal eating habits/weight fluctuations/overall physical activity, then share this with your doctor and express that you're struggling to lose weight. They may offer guidance if they're trained in nutrition at all, or they may refer you to a dietician to hone in on what changes you can make. If after following that guidance you're still struggling, bring this up to your dietician and doctor both. From there it might be exploring options with an endocrinologist while you further tweak your diet and meal plan to explore things like insulin resistance, metabolic disorders, etc.

PraetorXyn posted...

This means literally nothing. Until I turned 20 or so I lived on pizza, burgers, Mountain Dew / Dr. Pepper, Little Debbie, Reeses cups, southern fried cooking, etc. all of which are demonstrably bad for you and I never gained a pound, Im 510 and weighed probably 135-145 as a senior in high school. Then my metabolism fell off a cliff. If his metabolism is high enough, he could eat whatever he wants.

However, you did say fat free, and skim milk is basically water anyway. The point is, a typical glass of milk is probably about 120 calories at least, and chocolate milk is more like 300, and so about a quarter of OPs daily calorie intake was from milk, which is stupid.

This would explain his probable high metabolism.

Hes 52.

I specified fat free because someone else mentioned whole milk.

The_Yahtz09 posted...

Milk on its own is not a problem, but when you are consistently eating in caloric excess, removing or limiting it is an easy way to knock down your daily calorie total.

Main thing I wanted to point out is in the context of OPs weight gain, fat free means absolutely nothing. Calories are what matter, not whether it comes from carbs, protein, or fat.

Marketing really got one over on us here in the US. So many people think fat fee means its healthy, makes it a healthier alternative, or wont contribute to weight gain. Its about as far from the truth as you can get. You can eat all your food as fat free and youre still going to gain weight if you are eating in caloric surplus.

I agree, and I did this myself. I used to drink a glass of milk with dinner; now its a glass of water. But I do take a calcium supplement because bone density matters too.

Ive also seen articles that say whole milk is better than skim for weight loss. But thats controversial, and whole milk is too rich for me.