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GranTurismo
08/07/23 10:47:02 PM
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iirc most scientists think it moved as fast as a large elephant. Which it was close in size and weight, to.
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Questionmarktarius
08/07/23 10:48:30 PM
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That's why Marc Bolan was in that car.
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rodu_jr
08/07/23 10:49:37 PM
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It's theoretical speed has changed so many times, many say it moved as fast as walking speed, others say a bit quicker because it's tail would have been a shock absorber and it had specialized fused bones in it's foot.

But elephants can move pretty damn quick when they need to
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MICHALECOLE
08/07/23 10:50:13 PM
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When you talk about how fast something is, do you take into account how big that things steps are?

I guess probably because speed is usually measured in distance traveled vs time, right?
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Tyranthraxus
08/07/23 10:51:30 PM
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  1. Jurassic Park probably underestimated the speed.
  2. Elephants can go pretty fucking fast. Top estimates are 25 mph. That's only slightly slower than Usain Bolt's top sprinting speed.
  3. Usain Bolt would probably break his current sprinting record if he was being chased by an elephant. Just saying.

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GranTurismo
08/07/23 10:58:06 PM
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another interesting fact. Scientists estimate that 2.5 billion t rexes have ever lived on earth. 20,000 individuals at 1 time. and they existed for 2.5 million years
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Tyranthraxus
08/07/23 11:02:17 PM
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GranTurismo posted...
another interesting fact. Scientists estimate that 2.5 billion t rexes have ever lived on earth. 20,000 individuals at 1 time. and they existed for 2.5 million years

I tried researching dinosaur population in the past and it's probably the least accurate anything we know about history. You may as well just pull numbers out of your ass for any given dinosaur as long as it "sounds about right"

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GranTurismo
08/07/23 11:03:42 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
I tried researching dinosaur population in the past and it's probably the least accurate anything we know about history. You may as well just pull numbers out of your ass for any given dinosaur as long as it "sounds about right"
is your username from the t rex? is that why you're so interested in them?
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Tyranthraxus
08/07/23 11:04:53 PM
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GranTurismo posted...
is your username from the t rex? is that why you're so interested in them?

Nah. My username is from an old D&D video game that would later be incorporated into D&D canon decades later.

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rodu_jr
08/07/23 11:08:36 PM
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GranTurismo posted...
another interesting fact. Scientists estimate that 2.5 billion t rexes have ever lived on earth. 20,000 individuals at 1 time. and they existed for 2.5 million years
that's a lot considering they were only found in western North America, and were late comers to the Mesozoic
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bfslick50
08/07/23 11:08:59 PM
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The jeep in the first film shouldve gotten away easier but all the foot chases probably had it moving slower than the real thing.

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GranTurismo
08/08/23 7:51:04 AM
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bump
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GranTurismo
08/08/23 1:37:32 PM
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Last bump
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WrkHrdPlayHrdr
08/08/23 2:02:39 PM
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We don't even know for sure if they were warm or cold blooded. We can't be sure how fast they ran.

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GranTurismo
08/08/23 2:08:36 PM
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WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...
We don't even know for sure if they were warm or cold blooded. We can't be sure how fast they ran.
isnt it looking almost for certain that dinos were warm blooded? yeah, not 100 perc. though
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Tyranthraxus
08/08/23 2:20:07 PM
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GranTurismo posted...
isnt it looking almost for certain that dinos were warm blooded? yeah, not 100 perc. though

Yep. There was some confusion as early dinosaur research painted them as reptiles. "Tyrannosaurus" itself literally means Tyrant Lizard. This itself was mostly assumptions based on how their egg laying habits were similar to reptiles as opposed to the bird nests we're familiar with.

But it turns out we were super wrong about all that and they're actually birds. The Cassowary is the closest thing to what a dinosaur would have actually looked like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-xvBsaZex4

Did you know it's actually kinda hard to just find straight up footage of cassowaries that aren't heavily edited with documentary audio?

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Smiffwilm
08/08/23 2:22:01 PM
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Life uh, finds a way....

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Torgo
08/08/23 2:23:45 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Usain Bolt would probably break his current sprinting record if he was being chased by an elephant. Just saying.

Or he could turn and dash at a 90 degree angle and the Elephant would not be able to turn quickly and follow.


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GranTurismo
08/08/23 2:35:09 PM
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Smiffwilm posted...
Life uh, finds a way....
yeah one of the most quoted lines from jurassic park, prob the most quoted
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GranTurismo
08/08/23 2:36:11 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Yep. There was some confusion as early dinosaur research painted them as reptiles. "Tyrannosaurus" itself literally means Tyrant Lizard. This itself was mostly assumptions based on how their egg laying habits were similar to reptiles as opposed to the bird nests we're familiar with.

But it turns out we were super wrong about all that and they're actually birds. The Cassowary is the closest thing to what a dinosaur would have actually looked like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi5hp4gR_fg

Did you know it's actually kinda hard to just find straight up footage of cassowaries that aren't heavily edited with documentary audio?
weren't the theropods more closely related to birds? even their feet are like giant chicken feet. The t rex for sure. Maybe the sauropods were more closely related to crocodiles or something
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ArkhamOrigins
08/08/23 2:36:43 PM
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GranTurismo posted...
another interesting fact. Scientists estimate that 2.5 billion t rexes have ever lived on earth. 20,000 individuals at 1 time. and they existed for 2.5 million years

...that's not a fact, why do you insist on this narrative of pushing false information as such? I see you do this all the time.

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Tyranthraxus
08/08/23 2:39:33 PM
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GranTurismo posted...
weren't the theropods more closely related to birds? even their feet are like giant chicken feet. The t rex for sure. Maybe the sauropods were more closely related to crocodiles or something

Well that was kind of an over generalization on my part. Stuff like stegosaurus probably was a reptile but they're also not likely related to anything today as they went extinct for just sucking at Darwin. I'm not sure about things like triceratops or other four legged dinos.

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brestugo
08/08/23 2:41:24 PM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
When you talk about how fast something is, do you take into account how big that things steps are?

I guess probably because speed is usually measured in distance traveled vs time, right?

Yeah, I feel like length of stride isn't being appropriately considered ITT.

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GranTurismo
08/08/23 2:45:39 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Well that was kind of an over generalization on my part. Stuff like stegosaurus probably was a reptile but they're also not likely related to anything today as they went extinct for just sucking at Darwin. I'm not sure about things like triceratops or other four legged dinos.
didn't stegosaurus live for over 5 million yrs ? iirc t rex lived for like 2 or 3. so stegosaurus was very successful
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RuneterranSnap
08/08/23 2:46:31 PM
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Was a T-Rex really as small as a large elephant?

I mean, I know Elephants are big, but they're still nowhere near what I expect for a T Rex

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GranTurismo
08/08/23 2:47:53 PM
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RuneterranSnap posted...
Was a T-Rex really as small as a large elephant?

I mean, I know Elephants are big, but they're still nowhere near what I expect for a T Rex
iirc the largest bull elephant ever was like 22k pounds and the largest t rex ever discovered was supposed to weigh a little less than that. maybe the avg. trex was slightly larger than a full grown male african elephant
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Tyranthraxus
08/08/23 2:49:36 PM
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GranTurismo posted...
didn't stegosaurus live for over 5 million yrs ? iirc t rex lived for like 2 or 3. so stegosaurus was very successful
Tyrannosaurus died in an extinction event. Stegosaurus died because it sucked at Darwin 100 million years before the chicxulub asteroid hit.

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GranTurismo
08/08/23 2:51:18 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Tyrannosaurus died in an extinction event. Stegosaurus died because it sucked at Darwin 100 million years before the chicxulub asteroid hit.
didn't stegosaurus last longer than most dinosaur species though?
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rodu_jr
08/08/23 5:33:04 PM
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GranTurismo posted...
weren't the theropods more closely related to birds? even their feet are like giant chicken feet. The t rex for sure. Maybe the sauropods were more closely related to crocodiles or something
the sauropods are no more related to crocs than any other dinosaur
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Tyranthraxus
08/08/23 5:42:23 PM
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GranTurismo posted...
didn't stegosaurus last longer than most dinosaur species though?

I don't know. The average lifespan of a species is 500,000 to 3 million years before being replaced by an evolutionary descendant.

The stegosaurus died out because it could only eat low while animals that could eat high could also eat low.

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DeadBankerDream
08/08/23 5:43:32 PM
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I want a pet stegosaurus, but bonsai sized.

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GranTurismo
08/08/23 6:35:47 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
I don't know. The average lifespan of a species is 500,000 to 3 million years before being replaced by an evolutionary descendant.

The stegosaurus died out because it could only eat low while animals that could eat high could also eat low.
oh is this why? didn't know
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Seaman_Prime
08/08/23 6:52:42 PM
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Chickens can run pretty fast, now imagine a t-rex running like that
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Lil_Bit83
08/08/23 7:12:26 PM
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You can't exactly make pin-point accurate predictions over a species dead for millions of years. Just educated guesses. Not to mention the fictional scientists in Jurassic Park used fictional DNA splicing to create them. There was even a complaint that the animals were too fast and wouldn't gel with visitors pre-conceived notions of dinosaurs being slower.

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Ar0ge
08/08/23 7:23:12 PM
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Just to add to a few things here people have said...

Dinosaurs were most likely warm blooded, especially theropods ( T Rex, velociraptor, etc) who are the ancestors of birds.

All dinosaurs were reptiles, including the yes.... birds.

Theropods and sauropods ( Long necks) were equally related to crocodiles, seeing as they are all archosaurs and shared a common ancestor. The closest living relative to birds are in fact crocodilians.

Theropods and sauropods were actually more closely related to each other than they were to other dinosaurs such as the clade Ornithischia (triceratops, stegosaurus, etc)
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rodu_jr
08/08/23 7:25:14 PM
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Were dinosaurs reptiles, or were the descendants of dinosaurs? I mean, mammals descended from reptiles at one point too
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mybbqrules
08/08/23 7:26:33 PM
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I never thought the T-Rex looked like it was "running". More like "walking very briskly".

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GranTurismo
08/08/23 7:31:44 PM
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rodu_jr posted...
Were dinosaurs reptiles, or were the descendants of dinosaurs? I mean, mammals descended from reptiles at one point too
Which reptile did mammals evolve from? How long ago
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Ar0ge
08/08/23 7:33:06 PM
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rodu_jr posted...
Were dinosaurs reptiles, or were the descendants of dinosaurs? I mean, mammals descended from reptiles at one point too

Dinosaurs were/are reptiles.

Mammals did not really evolve from reptiles though. Rather, reptiles and mammals share a common ancestor.

Mammals evolve from and are synapsids ( we have a single temperal finestra), while reptiles are diapsids ( they have two).

It is thought that one mammals may have come from an animal very similar to dimetrodon. They are often lumped in with dinosaurs, but they were synapsids. NOT dinosaurs.
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SomeLikeItHoth
08/08/23 7:40:14 PM
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Would T Rex need to run fast?


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rodu_jr
08/08/23 7:41:23 PM
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yeah, I made an error, mammals evolved from an ancestral amniote, which would have looked lizard like
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GranTurismo
08/08/23 7:45:36 PM
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SomeLikeItHoth posted...
Would T Rex need to run fast?
not if its prey was real big and slow, too. So t rex was not the largest theropod ever? it was spinosaurus? iirc t rex weighed more. Any other one than spinosaurus was bigger?
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rodu_jr
08/08/23 7:49:42 PM
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GranTurismo posted...
not if its prey was real big and slow, too. So t rex was not the largest theropod ever? it was spinosaurus? iirc t rex weighed more. Any other one than spinosaurus was bigger?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giganotosaurus
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Ar0ge
08/08/23 7:53:02 PM
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GranTurismo posted...
not if its prey was real big and slow, too. So t rex was not the largest theropod ever? it was spinosaurus? iirc t rex weighed more. Any other one than spinosaurus was bigger?

I see you make a ton of posts about evolution and specifically about dinosaurs.

Out of curiosity, is that something you are really interested in as a hobby or are you studying this seriously in school/career?
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GranTurismo
08/08/23 7:53:52 PM
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rodu_jr posted...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giganotosaurus
yeah but iirc of the largest theropods, spinosaurus , gigantosaurus. t rex fossils are easily the most common. They must have reproduced fast , they existed for like 3 million yrs and estimated 2.5 billion of them ever lived. Supposedly if fewer than 100 million of them ever lived. We might have never known of their existence.
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GranTurismo
08/08/23 7:54:49 PM
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Ar0ge posted...
I see you make a ton of posts about evolution and specifically about dinosaurs.

Out of curiosity, is that something you are really interested in as a hobby or are you studying this seriously in school/career?
no i just read it on the side. Like read whatever dinosaur articles i can find.
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rodu_jr
08/08/23 7:57:13 PM
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GranTurismo posted...
yeah but iirc of the largest theropods, spinosaurus , gigantosaurus. t rex fossils are easily the most common. They must have reproduced fast , they existed for like 3 million yrs and estimated 2.5 billion of them ever lived. Supposedly if fewer than 100 million of them ever lived. We might have never known of their existence.
not sure about the others, but T rex took about 18 years to reach adult size, that's kinda slow
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GranTurismo
08/08/23 7:58:47 PM
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rodu_jr posted...
not sure about the others, but T rex took about 18 years to reach adult size, that's kinda slow
where did you get that info?
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rodu_jr
08/08/23 8:02:20 PM
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GranTurismo posted...
where did you get that info?
www.businessinsider.com/tyrannosaurus-rex-teenage-growth-spurt-2019-12
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