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MyBirthRight
06/15/23 5:51:08 PM
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Isn't The Rock a box office draw or something? Why did his movie that he was passionate about, flop or at the very least..not do well in sales and reception?
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Kitt
06/15/23 5:51:34 PM
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Because it was cheeks.

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Hayame_Zero
06/15/23 5:52:24 PM
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Odd and esoteric choice for a lead protagonist, bad reviews, uncertainty about the DCEU. A myriad of things.

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Gobstoppers12
06/15/23 5:52:32 PM
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It was a fun movie, but the character isn't super popular outside the comic community, and the DC brand has been weakened over time by a few questionable movies.

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Zikten
06/15/23 5:53:39 PM
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Because it's a character nobody outside comic readers has ever even heard of, and only Marvel has proven able to succeed with "obscure" characters
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Unsuprised_Pika
06/15/23 5:58:37 PM
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Deeply mediocre movie, DCEU has a dumpster fire reputation, Black Adam is not a highly popular character, and audiences have become more selective with superhero movies due to gatigue/a buncha disapointing or bad superhero movies and inflation.


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Kitt
06/15/23 5:58:38 PM
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Zikten posted...
Because it's a character nobody outside comic readers has ever even heard of, and only Marvel has proven able to succeed with "obscure" characters
Poor box-office aside (due to a number of things but especially COVID), The Suicide Squadwhich is filled with obscure characterswas a hit with film goers and reviewers. And it spawned another hit in Peacemaker, a spin-off centered around an obscure character.
Then you have other stuff like Kick-Ass, Kingsman, and Invincible; projects with source material that are otherwise obscure to people who don't read comics but went on to be successful in their own right.

Black Adam being an unpopular character wasn't necessarily why the movie sucked (imo). The writing, the story, the characters, all that stuff that makes a good movie (again, imo) just wasn't there. It was just unbearably mediocre at best.

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TheDurinator
06/15/23 5:59:44 PM
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Because The Rock only stars in bad movies and people have finally caught on to that fact.
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Blue_Target
06/15/23 6:01:23 PM
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Shazam 2 flopped too. People just don't care about the DCEU films.

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CADE_FOSTER
06/15/23 6:01:44 PM
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dc sucks at making movies they need to stick to animated films
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garan
06/15/23 6:02:53 PM
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Because the Rock isn't nearly as big of a star as he thinks he is.
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TheSavageDragon
06/15/23 6:04:18 PM
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This.
He was simultaneously the best and worst to portray Black Adam. He's pretty much a dead ringer for Black Adam in looks and build, but the only character he knows how to play is himself.
That combined with the fact that he actually thinks movies revolve around him rather than the story or the characters gave us Black Adam which surprisingly some people liked.
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TendoDRM
06/15/23 6:06:32 PM
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The best part about Black Adam was Pierce Brosnan.

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CADE_FOSTER
06/15/23 6:09:22 PM
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Though Black Adam made a respectable $393 million worldwide, its budget reached $260 million, not including marketing costs. Several potential reasons were offered for its flop, with many insiders accusing Johnson of using Black Adam to wield his power and organize a DC takeover.

https://www.cbr.com/black-adam-failure-dwayne-johnson-ego/
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MyBirthRight
06/15/23 6:17:26 PM
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Damn, you got absolutely destroyed by Zang and cade. Rip
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burns112233
06/15/23 6:17:43 PM
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The Rock sucks.
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kuwab0
06/15/23 6:19:34 PM
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No one asked for a Black Adam movie

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TheSavageDragon
06/15/23 6:28:53 PM
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kuwab0 posted...
No one asked for a Black Adam movie

Hi! I'm No One.
I didn't ask for it to be shit though.
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---Devin---
06/15/23 6:30:39 PM
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Did Black Adam not net more money?
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JasonSehorn
06/15/23 6:47:20 PM
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Though Black Adam made a respectable $393 million worldwide, its budget reached $260 million, not including marketing costs. Several potential reasons were offered for its flop, with many insiders accusing Johnson of using Black Adam to wield his power and organize a DC takeover.

https://www.cbr.com/black-adam-failure-dwayne-johnson-ego/

seems right tbh
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LordMarshal
06/15/23 7:13:50 PM
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It did fine but the rock spent a fortune on it so it like barely made anything.

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Murphiroth
06/15/23 7:21:49 PM
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The Rock is a carny wrestler type at heart, and he's always jockeying and backstage politicking for the best booking just like a wrestler would. People in the movie business are getting tired of it.
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xGhostchantx
06/15/23 7:49:48 PM
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Outside of Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman, Marvel was always been more popular than DC. That's just a fact.

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MedeaLysistrata
06/15/23 7:50:33 PM
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Women don't like literally who super heroes

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TheSavageDragon
06/15/23 7:51:42 PM
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xGhostchantx posted...
Outside of Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman, Marvel was always been more popular than DC. That's just a fact.

And outside of Spider-Man, X-Men and Hulk, Marvel wasn't popular until 2008.
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xGhostchantx
06/15/23 8:08:56 PM
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TheSavageDragon posted...
And outside of Spider-Man, X-Men and Hulk, Marvel wasn't popular until 2008.

It was still more popular than DC and the MCU opened with exactly none of those. Everything in the MCU is better than those (and I'm still not even that big a 'fan'), except maybe Ang Lee's the Hulk, I really enjoyed that. Massively underrated. The original Spider-Man movies were atrocious, the original X-Men movies were atrocious and only got worse as it went on.

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Requiem
06/15/23 8:09:10 PM
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JasonSehorn posted...
Though Black Adam made a respectable $393 million worldwide, its budget reached $260 million, not including marketing costs. Several potential reasons were offered for its flop, with many insiders accusing Johnson of using Black Adam to wield his power and organize a DC takeover.


1) Opportunity cost issue. I guess this becomes a bit hypothetical, since it's about "how much more could the company have made if they company made a different movie instead". So let's ignore this.

2) Marketing cost. That could have very well pushed the total cost above the $400 million the movie brought in.

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TheSavageDragon
06/15/23 8:11:41 PM
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xGhostchantx posted...
It was still more popular than DC and the MCU opened with exactly none of those. Everything in the MCU is better than those (and I'm still not even that big a 'fan'), except maybe Ang Lee's the Hulk, I really enjoyed that. Massively underrated. The original Spider-Man movies were atrocious, the original X-Men movies were atrocious and only got worse as it went on.

Point being that "outside of these highly popular characters, they weren't popular" is a laughable take.
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Cobra1010
06/15/23 8:11:55 PM
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Zikten posted...
Because it's a character nobody outside comic readers has ever even heard of, and only Marvel has proven able to succeed with "obscure" characters

Yeah im not a comic reader and i never heard of guardians of galaxy, ant man and scarlet witch before the movies. Maybe its the same reason why are not as popular as spiderman but i dont feel any urge to watch any of the sequels and probably never will watch them.

They got me to watch captain marvel because they made you for what happened at the end of infinite war.

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xGhostchantx
06/15/23 8:15:34 PM
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TheSavageDragon posted...
Point being that "outside of these highly popular characters, they weren't popular" is a laughable take.

What are you not understanding here? Those characters were always more popular than DC's entire catalogue with the exception of Batman, Superman and, to a bit of a lesser extent, Wonder Woman. This isn't a point to argue, it's just a fact. Marvel has always borderline dominated DC.

https://www.comichron.com/vitalstatistics/marketsharesyearly.html

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YourBestFrenemy
06/15/23 8:18:01 PM
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Because it sucked.

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I4NRulez
06/15/23 8:20:14 PM
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I think the movie made more money than it should have because of the rock

but even that couldnt escape word of mouth of its awfulness

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2Pacavelli
06/15/23 8:20:42 PM
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I really wanted to see it but missed it in Theaters I bet it was really good...
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Savoots
06/15/23 8:23:58 PM
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It was a very by the numbers superhero movie that would've worked in like 2006, but not post MCU.

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TheSavageDragon
06/15/23 8:26:31 PM
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xGhostchantx posted...
What are you not understanding here? Those characters were always more popular than DC's entire catalogue with the exception of Batman, Superman and, to a bit of a lesser extent, Wonder Woman. This isn't a point to argue, it's just a fact. Marvel has always borderline dominated DC.

Yeah, that is a fact. Just like it's a fact that only Spider-Man, Hulk and X-Men were big names for Marvel and the rest of the line-up wasn't all that popular until the 2010s. Hell, the actual Avengers were considered to be C and D listers among the comics community until Bendis revamped them.
So it's Marvel's few truly popular characters VS DC's few truly popular characters rather than presenting it as if the entire Marvel catalogue was filled with heavy hitters.
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xGhostchantx
06/15/23 8:28:22 PM
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TheSavageDragon posted...
Yeah, that is a fact. Just like it's a fact that only Spider-Man, Hulk and X-Men were big names for Marvel and the rest of the line-up wasn't all that popular until the 2010s. Hell, the actual Avengers were considered to be C and D listers among the comics community until Bendis revamped them.
So it's Marvel's few truly popular characters VS DC's few truly popular characters rather than presenting it as if the entire Marvel catalogue was filled with heavy hitters.

Why are you arguing?

I said Marvel has always been popular than DC.

You are bringing up 3 specific branches of the Marvel universe? Why? You are literally agreeing with me that Marvel has always been more popular than DC. That's why no one gives a shit about DCEU. Black Adam and Blue Beetle have never, ever sold as well as anything Marvel has ever printed, and Marvel has produced a better received CU than DC. Their lesser known brands sold on the strength of what came before. Iron Man sells more, ffs. Except maybe Squirrel Girl.

Why would most people go see them? They're worse than their predecessors, and their predecessors weren't that well received either. You wouldn't unless you're a proper DC fan.

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TheSavageDragon
06/15/23 8:33:09 PM
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xGhostchantx posted...
You are bringing up 3 specific branches of the Marvel universe? Why?

I brought up the 3 specific branches that made Marvel money in the decades before the MCU was a thing. Like you did with DC.

xGhostchantx posted...
That's why no one gives a shit about DCEU. Black Adam and Blue Beetle have never, ever sold as well as anything Marvel has ever printed. Why would most people go see them?

This is just asinine. Why the fuck would anyone go see Ant-Man or Guardians Of The Galaxy just the same? Do you think Ant-Man ever pulled insane sales numbers or something?
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I4NRulez
06/15/23 8:39:09 PM
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TheSavageDragon posted...
Yeah, that is a fact. Just like it's a fact that only Spider-Man, Hulk and X-Men were big names for Marvel and the rest of the line-up wasn't all that popular until the 2010s. Hell, the actual Avengers were considered to be C and D listers among the comics community until Bendis revamped them.
So it's Marvel's few truly popular characters VS DC's few truly popular characters rather than presenting it as if the entire Marvel catalogue was filled with heavy hitters.

X men had the greatest selling comic of all time but to be fair, There's Spider-Man and there's everyone else, and X-Men isnt the breadwinner anymore its Wolverine.

And the MCU has definitely skewed things more towards Marvel's favor too. Iron Man was a character no one gave a shit about forever. RDJ saved it. Thor kinda fell out of flavor too until the MCU came back for him.

The MCU definitely tipped the scales a lot for the popularity of Super heroes and DC can't keep up.

There's Spider-Man still and there's everyone else lol.

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xGhostchantx
06/15/23 8:43:19 PM
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TheSavageDragon posted...
This is just asinine. Why the fuck would anyone go see Ant-Man or Guardians Of The Galaxy just the same? Do you think Ant-Man ever pulled insane sales numbers or something?


xGhostchantx posted...
and Marvel has produced a better received CU than DC


xGhostchantx posted...
They're worse than their predecessors, and their predecessors weren't that well received either. You wouldn't unless you're a proper DC fan.

What the fuck are you not understanding? The internet was a mistake.

* If Marvel sold better than DC; and,
* Marvel made a well received CU; and,
* DC has never sold better than MC; and,
* DC made a poorly received CU;

This means that the reason Marvel is more successful is because they sold more historically and made a better product historically, hence tertiary characters are more likely to sell both in print and film, meaning said tertiary characters are still more popular than DC characters. Jfc.

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