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CableZL
04/18/23 1:49:47 PM
#101:


Damn it, the call in line is at capacity.

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CableZL
04/18/23 1:50:40 PM
#102:


Oh sweet, I tried again and got in

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brestugo
04/18/23 1:54:08 PM
#103:


masterpug53 posted...
That's why I mentioned diminishing returns. Ironically, at this point no 'reasonable' judge / jury will see Fox's election fraud lies - and all the nigh-irreparable damage they've caused - as a simple case of witty satire.
Yeah, if I was on that jury and they pulled this stunt, I'd be pretty upset and thinking, "Do they think I'm a fool up here? They tried this stunt before."

Even the most "open-minded" juror's gotta see this.

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TheSavageDragon
04/18/23 1:56:48 PM
#104:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


Nah, he's absolutely right. Something big will be exposed. The vile tactics of Fox and the stupidity of those that believe their nonsense in spite of overwhelming evidence.
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thronedfire2
04/18/23 1:58:15 PM
#105:


wait wait

they aren't going with a "The Simpsons predicts the future" defense are they?

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CableZL
04/18/23 2:01:53 PM
#106:


They aren't saying anything. Are they still on lunch?

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gigageek1500
04/18/23 2:02:04 PM
#107:


Probably something like "The Simpsons showed voting machines changing votes and didn't get in trouble. It's not fair if we do." They do love absurd whataboutism.

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CableZL
04/18/23 2:22:56 PM
#108:


Still nothing being said. Anyone know what's going on?

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UnfairRepresent
04/18/23 2:28:43 PM
#109:


gigageek1500 posted...
Probably something like "The Simpsons showed voting machines changing votes and didn't get in trouble. It's not fair if we do." They do love absurd whataboutism.
To be fair (i haven't seen the trial so I could be mistaken) a lot of this is to play to the jury, not to us.

It might seem silly but in a long boring weeks long trial full of a jury of bored people who don't give a shit, they're not gonna remember random dull facts from day 12

But they will remember the Simpsons clips.

Lawyers do this all the time, dramatic demonstrations or really weird stupid shit that makes no sense but the jury remembers.

Perhaps most famously Johnny Cochran's rhyme "If the glove doesn't fit, you must aquit"

Which I garantee any juror or anyone who even slightly followed OJ Simpson remembers

Never ever forget Fox's job isn't to convince you or a group of reasonable people with access to all the facts and a vested interest. They're trying to influence a bored jury

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CableZL
04/18/23 2:58:36 PM
#110:


I'm still not hearing anything on the call in line. What's going on here?

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CableZL
04/18/23 3:01:43 PM
#111:


https://www.nbcnews.com/media/live-blog/-fox-news-dominion-trial-live-updates-rcna79492

Judge Eric Davis has formally appointed a special master to investigate Fox News over its handling of discovery, nearly a week after he scolded the media company for not turning over evidence in a timely fashion.

Davis tapped Delaware litigator John Elzufon to look into whether Fox complied with its discovery obligations heading into the defamation trial, according to the filing.
The special master can depose whomever he wishes and all those costs must be paid by Fox, as Davis explained from the bench last week.

Elzufon must provide a written report regarding the investigation no later than 4 p.m. ET on May 15.

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TomClark
04/18/23 3:03:47 PM
#112:


Their actual defense in an actual courtroom, in a case worth billions, is literally gonna be "Simpsons Did It, Simpsons Did It", isn't it...?

Fucking hell, this is going to make their "no reasonable person believes us so it's not damaging" argument look like the peak of integrity in comparison.

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Tyranthraxus
04/18/23 3:05:04 PM
#113:


TomClark posted...
Their actual defense in an actual courtroom, in a case worth billions, is literally gonna be "Simpsons Did It, Simpsons Did It", isn't it...?

Fucking hell, this is going to make their "no reasonable person believes us so it's not damaging" argument look like the peak of integrity in comparison.
Now why would Chewbacca, an 8 foot tall wookie live with a bunch of 3 foot tall ewoks? It makes no sense.

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Funkydog
04/18/23 3:08:53 PM
#114:


TomClark posted...
Their actual defense in an actual courtroom, in a case worth billions, is literally gonna be "Simpsons Did It, Simpsons Did It", isn't it...?

Fucking hell, this is going to make their "no reasonable person believes us so it's not damaging" argument look like the peak of integrity in comparison.
But Tom!

If trees are green then how can planes fly?

See? Just more proof Fox did no wrong.

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TomClark
04/18/23 3:10:57 PM
#115:


Funkydog posted...
But Tom!

If trees are green then how can planes fly?

See? Just more proof Fox did no wrong.

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CableZL
04/18/23 3:11:44 PM
#116:


Dominion was scheduled to begin its approximately 90-minute opening statement to the jury at 1:30 p.m. ET, but as of 2:45 p.m., there was no sign of the judge or the jury, and no reason was given for the ongoing delay.

Ok, so I'm not going crazy

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Funkydog
04/18/23 3:13:42 PM
#117:


CableZL posted...
Dominion was scheduled to begin its approximately 90-minute opening statement to the jury at 1:30 p.m. ET, but as of 2:45 p.m., there was no sign of the judge or the jury, and no reason was given for the ongoing delay.

Ok, so I'm not going crazy
Fox gonna go for 'we can leave if the teacher isnt here after 15 mins' tactic.

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Mibahlzitch
04/18/23 3:20:33 PM
#118:


thronedfire2 posted...
wait wait

they aren't going with a "The Simpsons predicts the future" defense are they?

gigageek1500 posted...
Probably something like "The Simpsons showed voting machines changing votes and didn't get in trouble. It's not fair if we do." They do love absurd whataboutism.

TomClark posted...
Their actual defense in an actual courtroom, in a case worth billions, is literally gonna be "Simpsons Did It, Simpsons Did It", isn't it...?

Fucking hell, this is going to make their "no reasonable person believes us so it's not damaging" argument look like the peak of integrity in comparison.

More or less these, but I suspect the way they will do it in order to sound like it's a professional defense will be to use it to suggest that satire, even satire about how voting machines works is protected speech and that the clip is an example of this in action. "You see, the constitution allows for people to make statements that aren't true in entertainment".

This is of course a lie, but it does tie into a previous case they won that implied they were simply entertainment and not news so they are probably hoping the precedent helps. "It's a joke bro" but all pretty sounding. Not to mention the Simpsons was on "fox" so they can try to convince the jury that "Fox has totally been making election jokes before, why are people upset now? It must be a political hit job" by muddying the waters between "Fox news" and "Fox tv".

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masterpug53
04/18/23 3:21:13 PM
#119:


CableZL posted...
Dominion was scheduled to begin its approximately 90-minute opening statement to the jury at 1:30 p.m. ET, but as of 2:45 p.m., there was no sign of the judge or the jury, and no reason was given for the ongoing delay.

Ok, so I'm not going crazy

It's taking both judge and jury a full hour and a half to stop laughing.

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TMOG
04/18/23 3:22:06 PM
#120:


masterpug53 posted...
It's taking both judge and jury a full hour and a half to stop laughing.
Maybe the jury told the judge they're already to make a ruling because of how fucking stupid FOX's opener was lol
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Mibahlzitch
04/18/23 3:22:43 PM
#121:


Either that or they ended up just watching a bunch of simpsons clips and quoting old episodes at each other. Worse if they ended up opening up a tv tropes tab.

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Geiki_Ganger
04/18/23 3:23:59 PM
#122:


Probably just more settlement talks.

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Heineken14
04/18/23 3:28:31 PM
#123:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/EdKrassen/status/1648349899732180992

Can someone get me off of this timeline and onto the one where the Outkast + A Tribe Called Quest album was made


It gets even "better" when you read some of the dipshit comments in that who think this is Fox laying a trap. lol

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Heineken14
04/18/23 3:32:25 PM
#124:


Mibahlzitch posted...
Either that or they ended up just watching a bunch of simpsons clips and quoting old episodes at each other. Worse if they ended up opening up a tv tropes tab.


The judge is going to walk into the courtroom singing Mr. Plow.

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Tyranthraxus
04/18/23 3:36:14 PM
#125:


BREAKING: Fox is transferring the advocacy of their case to attorney Lionel Hutz

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mario2000
04/18/23 3:36:48 PM
#126:


I'm just imagining that it's the Simpsons judge.

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devilminion
04/18/23 3:37:12 PM
#127:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/EdKrassen/status/1648349899732180992

Can someone get me off of this timeline and onto the one where the Outkast + A Tribe Called Quest album was made

Reality has become a bigger parody than satire itself. People were laughing at this article just yesterday

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/fox-news-lawyers-to-cite-hiring-of-kimberly-guilfoyle-as-part-of-insanity-defense

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toreysback
04/18/23 3:37:32 PM
#128:


Geiki_Ganger posted...
Probably just more settlement talks.


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Takuya_Lee
04/18/23 3:45:23 PM
#129:


Geiki_Ganger posted...
Probably just more settlement talks.

Dominion isn't settling. I think this is the judge trying to figure out who in the gallery is live tweeting. A Fox News person ratted people out after they were kicked out for taking pictures.

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CableZL
04/18/23 3:55:26 PM
#130:


The judge is back, waiting for the jury to be ready to come back in. I like how the silence took damn near the entirety of the time where I could have listened closely. There isn't enough time left today for a 90 minute opening statement if they're ending at 4:30pm eastern.

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CableZL
04/18/23 3:57:35 PM
#131:


"The parties have resolved their case"

WTF

What the hell!? After all this, they settled?

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Irony
04/18/23 3:59:22 PM
#132:


CableZL posted...
"The parties have resolved their case"

WTF

What the hell!? After all this, they settled?
Must have been one hell of a BJ

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CableZL
04/18/23 3:59:33 PM
#133:


Aaaaaand it's over

Hopefully the details of the settlement will be public. Fox News REALLY did not want this trial.


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Strider102
04/18/23 4:00:33 PM
#134:


CableZL posted...
Aaaaaand it's over

Hopefully the details of the settlement will be public. Fox News REALLY did not want this trial.

But they prepared clips of The Simpsons

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mario2000
04/18/23 4:02:05 PM
#135:


Strider102 posted...
But they prepared clips of The Simpsons

Epic lifehack to win any court case! Attorneys HATE this one weird trick!

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Strider102
04/18/23 4:02:44 PM
#136:


mario2000 posted...
Epic lifehack to win any court case! Attorneys HATE this one weird trick!

Lol

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WrkHrdPlayHrdr
04/18/23 4:03:02 PM
#137:


Get ready for the:
"While we have settled this case we do not admit to any wrong doing."

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HylianFox
04/18/23 4:03:05 PM
#138:


Faux News may as well use "the devil made us do it" at this point

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CableZL
04/18/23 4:03:35 PM
#139:


WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...
Get ready for the:
"While we have settled this case we do not admit to any wrong doing."

Highly likely, unfortunately

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toreysback
04/18/23 4:04:27 PM
#141:


fox did what they had to

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Strider102
04/18/23 4:05:30 PM
#142:


Next episode of Cucker gonna be interesting

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Takuya_Lee
04/18/23 4:05:56 PM
#143:


Well I was wrong... They did settle...

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ScazarMeltex
04/18/23 4:06:20 PM
#144:


CableZL posted...
Aaaaaand it's over

Hopefully the details of the settlement will be public. Fox News REALLY did not want this trial.
I'm not seeing anything on major media sites or twitter yet about a settlement.

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CableZL
04/18/23 4:06:22 PM
#145:


Takuya_Lee posted...
Well I was wrong... They did settle...

Same, I thought there was no way Dominion was going to settle this lawsuit. I really hope they make the settlement public.

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Humble_Novice
04/18/23 4:06:32 PM
#146:


So how much money did Fox News lose to avoid being humiliated in court?
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CableZL
04/18/23 4:07:18 PM
#147:


ScazarMeltex posted...
I'm not seeing anything on major media sites or twitter yet about a settlement.
https://www.nbcnews.com/media/live-blog/
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UnholyMudcrab
04/18/23 4:08:05 PM
#148:


What a joke

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ScazarMeltex
04/18/23 4:08:28 PM
#149:


CableZL posted...
https://www.nbcnews.com/media/live-blog/
-fox-news-dominion-trial-live-updates-rcna79492
Fuck. I really, really wanted all of Fox's dirt out for everyone to see. How much money do you think Fox threw at them?

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Geiki_Ganger
04/18/23 4:09:39 PM
#150:


Must have been an offer that Dominion and the lawyers could not refuse.

Wouldn't surprise me if it was north of a billion dollars.

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