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Skankhair
04/14/23 10:40:12 PM
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Pepys_Monster posted...
Nobody is perfect. Some people hate Albert Einstein because he married his cousin.

Thats a hell of a whataboutism. Yikes.
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ScazarMeltex
04/14/23 10:45:53 PM
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Pepys_Monster posted...
If he wasn't exceptional, he wouldn't be where he is today.
You cannot be this fucking clueless.

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Pepys_Monster
04/14/23 10:48:55 PM
#54:


ScazarMeltex posted...
You cannot be this fucking clueless.
You'd probably say Julius Caesar had no talent if you existed in Ancient Rome.

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Murphiroth
04/14/23 10:52:45 PM
#55:


Pepys_Monster posted...
You'd probably say Julius Caesar had no talent if you existed in Ancient Rome.

You know how this comparison inevitably ends right?

I'm down for it!
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Pepys_Monster
04/14/23 10:53:37 PM
#56:


Murphiroth posted...
You know how this comparison inevitably ends right?

I'm down for it!
No, I don't.

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ScazarMeltex
04/14/23 10:56:53 PM
#57:


Pepys_Monster posted...
You'd probably say Julius Caesar had no talent if you existed in Ancient Rome.
Here is the difference, Caesar actually did stuff. Fought and won battles. Was brilliant politician and team builder. A better comparison to Musk would Pompey Magnus, who mostly did nothing but claim credit for other people's victories and when he did actually get something done he blew it way out of proportion. Which is why when him and Caesar came to blows Caesar won.

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Pepys_Monster
04/14/23 10:58:08 PM
#58:


ScazarMeltex posted...
Here is the difference, Caesar actually did stuff. Fought and won battles. Was brilliant politician and team builder. A better comparison to Musk would Pompey Magnus, who mostly did nothing but claim credit for other people's victories and when he did actually get something done he blew it way out of proportion. Which is why when him and Caesar came to blows Caesar won.
Caesar was better. And Elon Musk was better than Toshihiro Mibe.

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ScazarMeltex
04/14/23 11:00:01 PM
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Pepys_Monster posted...
Caesar was better. And Elon Musk was better than Toshihiro Mibe.
No. Mibe is an actual expert when it comes to engines. Musk isn't an expert at anything but grifting, and even that is questionable.

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Pepys_Monster
04/14/23 11:08:32 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
No. Mibe is an actual expert when it comes to engines. Musk isn't an expert at anything but grifting, and even that is questionable.
Where's the all new electric Honda Civic?

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ToadallyAwesome
04/14/23 11:32:38 PM
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This is a weird ass topic

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pfh1001
04/14/23 11:35:11 PM
#62:


Solution_45 posted...
that's somebodies son


This made me laugh.

A rich somebody's son at that.
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Pepys_Monster
04/14/23 11:52:04 PM
#63:


ToadallyAwesome posted...
This is a weird ass topic
I have ASD. Elon Musk has ASD. He's a billionaire. He's older than me. He's role model. I own a Tesla Model 3 and I love it.

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Kloe_Rinz
04/14/23 11:58:39 PM
#64:


Elon Musk isnt a good person
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Pepys_Monster
04/15/23 12:02:01 AM
#65:


Kloe_Rinz posted...
Elon Musk isnt a good person
Define a good person.

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Skankhair
04/15/23 12:02:01 AM
#66:


Pepys_Monster posted...
I have ASD. Elon Musk has ASD. He's a billionaire. He's older than me. He's role model. I own a Tesla Model 3 and I love it.

Hes only a billionaire because of fraud. His wealth is mostly Tesla stock which he pumps up with lies and false promises.

If Elon was never born Tesla would still exist and would be a healthier company with higher quality cars that isnt massively overvalued based on fraud and due for a disastrous market correction.

You got conned.
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Kloe_Rinz
04/15/23 12:02:38 AM
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Pepys_Monster posted...
Define a good person.
Why?
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Krojen
04/15/23 12:15:28 AM
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Tho it is funny people think a company as large as Tesla can be "pumped" with lies and fraud. Every time Elon opens his dumb mouth the stock tanks - not pump.

No analysts/funds that move stocks have ever believed his claims. It's Tesla's strong financials and positioning that keeps its value.

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Unknown781
04/15/23 12:17:06 AM
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Respect is earn not given
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Skankhair
04/15/23 12:21:53 AM
#70:


Krojen posted...
Tho it is funny people think a company as large as Tesla can be "pumped" with lies and fraud. Every time Elon opens his dumb mouth the stock tanks - not pump.

No analysts/funds that move stocks have ever believed his claims. It's Tesla's strong financials and positioning that keeps its value.

Robotaxis, Tesla Semi, Cybertruck, FSD, $25K Tesla, Tesla robot, all of these false promises pumped up Tesla stock, along with Elons rampant use of Twitter bots. Tesla is vastly overvalued based on every metric as an automaker. The high stock price is based on these false promises someday coming true. What planet do you live on, bud? Youre trying to rewrite history.
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Krojen
04/15/23 12:30:16 AM
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Skankhair posted...
Robotaxis, Tesla Semi, Cybertruck, FSD, all of these false promises pumped up Tesla stock, along with Elons rampant use of Twitter bots. Tesla is vastly overvalued based on every metric. What planet do you live on, bud?
Every time Elon talks about Robotaxis and FSD the stock tanks. They have never pumped the stock.

Pepsi and Walmart currently use the Tesla Semi. Cybertruck comes out this year. What planet are you on? You don't even know what metrics are.

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Skankhair
04/15/23 12:32:14 AM
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Krojen posted...
Every time Elon talks about Robotaxis and FSD the stock tanks. They have never pumped the stock.

Why lie? Those claims caused the stock to soar.

Pepsi and Walmart currently use the Tesla Semi. Cybertruck comes out this year.

Hold your breath on the Cybertruck, please.. Pepsi and WalMart use a Tesla as a tiny fraction of their fleet as a test run. If you think its going well you are ignorant.

What planet are you on? You don't even know what metrics are.

Apparently I do and you dont. Not sure why you need to lie.
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Krojen
04/15/23 12:40:01 AM
#73:


Skankhair posted...
Why lie? Those claims caused the stock to soar.
Sorry the YouTube video you saw said this but it's not true. Funds moving 100s of billions of dollars are not that easily fooled.

Skankhair posted...
Hold your breath on the Cybertruck, please.. Pepsi and WalMart use a Tesla as a tiny fraction of their fleet as a test run. If you think its going well you are ignorant.
I've seen first hand the gigastamps and 4680 cell production ready to produce Cybertrucks. Covid and the Model Y being an unexpected success diverted their attention from small fries like the Semi. Even the stupid truck. Walmart and Pepsi said it's going well, they've been waiting patiently for the 4680s that finally ramped this year to fill their orders because no other company has stepped in.

Skankhair posted...
Apparently I do and you dont. Not sure why you need to lie.
So make more specific claims about them.

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VampireCoyote
04/15/23 12:40:30 AM
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Skankhair
04/15/23 12:44:01 AM
#75:


Krojen posted...
Sorry the YouTube video you saw said this but it's not true. Funds moving 100s of billions of dollars are not that easily fooled.

YouTube? Im referring to the actual market price after investor days.

Tesla investors are that easily fooled. Youre using a red herring.

I've seen first hand the gigastamps and 4680 cell production ready to produce Cybertrucks. Covid and the Model Y being an unexpected success diverted their attention from small fries like the Semi.

Yawn, anecdotal. Keep falling for it.

Even the stupid truck. Walmart and Pepsi said it's going well, they've been waiting patiently for the 4680s that finally ramped this year to fill their orders because no other company has stepped in.

The users havent. If you think Tesla is going to replace diesel at any real scale you are laughably mistaken. Again, please hold your breath. You falling for false promises is exactly what Im talking about
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Krojen
04/15/23 12:51:03 AM
#76:


Skankhair posted...
YouTube? Im referring to the actual market price after investor days.

Tesla investors are that easily fooled. Youre using a red herring.
Tesla stock has tanked after every investor day I can remember. Especially AI and battery days. Literally even the most recent investor day a month ago where people expected a new model announcement and they instead talked about boring production efficiencies for 4 hours. Tanked.

You know the only time Tesla stock soars? When the company is reporting great financials on earnings reports and Elon isn't on call to say something stupid about robotaxis that scares funds away. Particularly in the 2019-2021 run of insane exponential cash flow increase from Giga Shanghai.

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Skankhair
04/15/23 12:56:00 AM
#77:


Krojen posted...
Tesla stock has tanked after every investor day I can remember.

What color is the sky in the fantasyland that you live in?
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Krojen
04/15/23 1:00:53 AM
#78:


Skankhair posted...
What color is the sky in the fantasyland that you live in?
You didn't counter with a single example because you can't and you're not serious anyway lol

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Skankhair
04/15/23 1:07:55 AM
#79:


Krojen posted...
You didn't counter with a single example because you can't and you're not serious anyway lol

I *started* with examples and you came back with alternative reality bull****. Sit down.
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Krojen
04/15/23 1:15:23 AM
#80:


Skankhair posted...
I *started* with examples and you came back with alternative reality bull****. Sit down.
I gave several examples of the stock tanking after investor days. One literally just happened. You're manually censoring curse words instead of countering because you're just messing around on a dead gaming forum.

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Skankhair
04/15/23 1:17:23 AM
#81:


Krojen posted...
I gave several examples of the stock tanking after investor days. One literally just happened. You're manually censoring curse words instead of countering because you're just messing around on a dead gaming forum.

The only example you gave that actually happened is one I didnt even use
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Questionmarktarius
04/15/23 1:21:58 AM
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always obligatory:

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Srk700
04/15/23 1:27:31 AM
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https://youtu.be/J1FVsVE54Qw
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Krojen
04/15/23 1:32:22 AM
#84:


Skankhair posted...
What color is the sky in the fantasyland that you live in?
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/02/tesla-stock-down-after-investor-day-.html

Skankhair posted...
YouTube? Im referring to the actual market price after investor days.
So you just assumed the price went up because you're easily fooled.


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Skankhair
04/15/23 1:36:58 AM
#85:


Krojen posted...
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/02/tesla-stock-down-after-investor-day-.html

So you just assumed the price went up because you're easily fooled.

None of my examples were from 2023 like dude, can you at least pretend to know how to read?

We agree that Tesla stock dropped after the recent investor day. I never said otherwise or used it as an example for a reason. Jesus, youre dropping my jaw youre so bad at this

How about address what I actually said? But you cant because you live in a world of make-believe.
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Krojen
04/15/23 1:47:23 AM
#86:


Skankhair posted...
None of my examples were from 2023 like dude, can you at least pretend to know how to read?

We agree that Tesla stock dropped after the recent investor day. I never said otherwise or used it as an example for a reason. Jesus, youre dropping my jaw youre so bad at this

How about address what I actually said? But you cant because you live in a world of make-believe.
Appreciate the backpedal.

But I also said the stock dropped after AI day (bot announcement.) You said that bot pumped the stock. Even the CyberTruck announcement tanked the stock. So much for these "false promises keeping the stock high."

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Lorenzo_2003
04/15/23 1:48:51 AM
#87:


Zikten posted...
Anyone could do what Musk did

Wtf, do people unironically believe that about CEOs, directors and such?

I mean its Ok to dislike and resent the guy. But the above is a really bad take even for CE.

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Krojen
04/15/23 1:51:26 AM
#88:


Lorenzo_2003 posted...
Wtf, do people unironically believe that about CEOs, directors and such?

I mean its Ok to dislike and resent the guy. But the above is a really bad take even for CE.
Man if only you had time to read my book on how Elon lucked into Tesla's dominance. Idk if just anyone can be as ruthless tho.

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Skankhair
04/15/23 1:54:44 AM
#89:


Krojen posted...
Appreciate the backpedal.

But I also said the stock dropped after AI day (bot announcement.) You said that bot pumped the stock. Even the CyberTruck announcement tanked the stock. So much for these "false promises keeping the stock high."

Backpedal? You are using an example I never referred to. What the ****? Get that straw man trash out of here.

Tesla stock took a hit right after the Cybertruck announcement but then shot back up and above the previous price and had 200,000 preorders.

Dude, if youre going to lie about reality you have to try harder. Only you are falling for it.
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Krojen
04/15/23 2:03:07 AM
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"Ok so CyberTruck did tank the stock and so do investor days but it eventually went back up! And I'm just going to sidestep the bot thing"

I'll help you out. The only false claim Elon made that successfully pumped the stock was: "Considering taking Tesla private at 420, funding secured."

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Skankhair
04/15/23 2:06:07 AM
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Krojen posted...
"Ok so CyberTruck did tank the stock and so do investor days but it eventually went back up! And I'm just going to sidestep the bot thing"

Cybertruck didnt tank the stock, nor do most investor days. Why lie? Tesla stock went up after Cybertruck.

Do you think that the moments after an announcement describe the totality of the effect that announcement had, even when it later resulted in hundreds of thousands of pre-orders and a larger boost than the initial decline?

Your confusion is showing.

I'll help you out. The only false claim Elon made that successfully pumped the stock was: "Considering taking Tesla private at 420, funding secured."

That is one of several, at least in reality. You can lie to yourself though, you seem to enjoy it.
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Questionmarktarius
04/15/23 2:10:41 AM
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Until an electric car gets below 20K, it's all fantasy.
I think Nissan did that one.
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Krojen
04/15/23 2:12:24 AM
#93:


Skankhair posted...
nor do most investor days.
So far I've listed 3 investor days where the stock tanked and you've suspiciously listed none.

If you can name 4 where the stock soared I'll name 2 more investor days that tanked the stock.

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Skankhair
04/15/23 2:14:18 AM
#94:


Krojen posted...
So far I've listed 3 investor days where the stock tanked and you've suspiciously listed none.

Youre lying to yourself.

If you can name 4 where the stock soared I'll name 2 more investor days that tanked the stock.

I already did

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Krojen
04/15/23 2:17:39 AM
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A product announcement isn't an investor day. Ok let's count it as one. It tanked the stock. Because the stock recovered for a variety of reasons you want to count it as a pump, Ok that's 1.

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Skankhair
04/15/23 2:19:38 AM
#96:


Krojen posted...
A product announcement isn't an investor day.

I am referring broadly to Elons false promises which include but are not limited to investor days Ive made this clear. It should be very clear to you. But reality is not something you have a grasp on.

Ok let's count it as one. It tanked the stock. Because the stock recovered for a variety of reasons you want to count it as a pump, Ok that's 1.

Cybertruck did not tank the stock. The hype and resulting preorders boosted the stock. Youre lying to yourself.
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Krojen
04/15/23 2:35:52 AM
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Then let's talk about your favorite investor day/claim. One you're most confident about pumping the stock. FSD robotaxis day!
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/23/wall-street-calls-teslas-autonomous-plan-half-baked.html

Whoops that tanked the stock, just like it always has. Wall Street funds control the value of large companies and they've never bought into his FSD bs.

Johnny from reddit throwing his $20 at a fractional share of Tesla because he soy faced over Elon's false claims doesn't move a large market cap.

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Skankhair
04/15/23 2:40:18 AM
#98:


Krojen posted...
Then let's talk about your favorite investor day/claim. One you're most confident about pumping the stock. FSD robotaxis day!
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/23/wall-street-calls-teslas-autonomous-plan-half-baked.html

Whoops that tanked the stock, just like it always has. Wall Street funds control the value of large companies and they've never bought into his FSD bs.

Tanked the stock? It went down .5% then rebounded and went up

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Krojen
04/15/23 2:46:13 AM
#99:


Skankhair posted...
Tanked the stock? It went down .5% then rebounded and went up

Dude, youre so funny
Because it was already down 21%. Dropping another half percent is a pump? Sounds like Wall Street doesn't pay much attention to robotaxis. You promised me a pump from these claims/days! Dude you're hilarious, thinking you know this guy is full of it but people managing billions don't.

It did not rebound until earnings, when the company financials are reported. Just as I said.

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Skankhair
04/15/23 3:23:12 AM
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Krojen posted...
Because it was already down 21%.

From before

Dropping another half percent is a pump?

Its not a tank either, and it rebounded.

Sounds like Wall Street doesn't pay much attention to robotaxis.

Never said otherwise. Musks gullible fans do.

You promised me a pump from these claims/days!

Which did happen.

Dude you're hilarious, thinking you know this guy is full of it but people managing billions don't.

I never said Wallstreet funds fall for his BS. Dude, WTF is up with the non-stop straw men ****? Can you actually address what Im actually saying

It did not rebound until earnings, when the company financials are reported. Just as I said.

Lying again. Its kinda your thing.

Im noticing the pattern of you lying, then attacking an argument I never made. Seriously, what in the ****?
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Krojen
04/15/23 3:26:34 AM
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You're not even making sense anymore zeppelin so this is the part where I get bored and we'll do this again next year.

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