Current Events > LGB drop the T are some of the biggest losers on the planet

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Or LGB alliance types

Absolute dorks

What about all the other stuff

Scintillant posted...

Or LGB alliance types

Absolute dorks

what is wrong with being L or G or B ?

I'm convinced most of it is a grift

DOOM-64 posted...

what is wrong with being L or G or B ?

Nothing, these groups exist to be transphobic

DOOM-64 posted...

what is wrong with being L or G or B ?

Nothing, but an alliance that is pro-gay and anti-trans is delusional and seemingly unaware that the anti-trans organizations & political powers also want to outlaw gay marriage and, you know, make being gay illegal. It's people who are apparently unable to parse that the anti-trans "arguments" are recooked anti-gay talking points

The LGB alliance is a specific Terf/Hate group from the UK.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGB_Alliance

They are not an ally at all.

It's wild when those kinds of groups ally themselves with literal Nazis

Tyranthraxus posted...

The LGB alliance is a specific Terf/Hate group from the UK.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGB_Alliance

They are not an ally at all.

oh, terfs. They hate men too. They fantasize about kicking men in the nuts and shit like that. Fuck them

DOOM-64 posted...

oh, terfs. They hate men too. They fantasize about kicking men in the nuts and shit like that. Fuck them

Terfs are okay with men as long as the men hate transgenders. Terfs don't really have any policy positions besides "transgender bad"

Tyranthraxus posted...

Terfs are okay with men as long as the men hate transgenders. Terfs don't really have any policy positions besides "transgender bad"

didnt the R in terf stand for radical ?

DOOM-64 posted...

didnt the R in terf stand for radical ?

terfs coined the term for themselves. of course they'd spin it to make them seem more appealing.

DOOM-64 posted...

didnt the R in terf stand for radical ?

Radical feminism has nothing to do with TERFs aside from sharing a couple of the same words.

Tyranthraxus posted...

Terfs are okay with men as long as the men hate transgenders. Terfs don't really have any policy positions besides "transgender bad"

Not necessarily.

For example, Rowling's hatred of transgender women stems heavily from her opinions on cisgender men. Namely, they aren't great.

DrizztLink posted...

Not necessarily.

For example, Rowling's hatred of transgender women stems heavily from her opinions on cisgender men. Namely, they aren't great.

Her opinion on cismen is not anywhere near that blanketing. She doesn't believe men belong in women's spaces. That's all. Whether they're great or not depends on if they're willing to respect and abstain from women's spaces.

Accolon posted...

It's wild when those kinds of groups ally themselves with literal Nazis

Absolutely. Like, what do they think is going to happen should the hard right gets rid of trans-individuals?

ew

Accolon posted...

It's wild when those kinds of groups ally themselves with literal Nazis

They think they'll be considered "the good ones" and think they'll never be targeted. They'll find out eventually that there never are "good ones".

Accolon posted...

It's wild when those kinds of groups ally themselves with literal Nazis

They are hoping it will save them from the furnaces. It won't. It didn't save Ernst Rohm and it won't save them.

Southernfatman posted...

They think they'll be considered "the good ones" and think they'll never be targeted. They'll find out eventually that there never are "good ones".

They'll have egg on their face like the Log Cabin Republicans. They're the good ones until they're no longer useful.

A_Good_Boy posted...

They'll have egg on their face like the Log Cabin Republicans. They're the good ones until they're no longer useful.

Egg on their face and toxic gas in their lungs or maybe a bullet in their heads.

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"TERFs aren't feminists" is just some degree of no true scotsman. The definition of "radical feminism" doesn't make any claims about whether gender=sex or anything like that.

Like they're still wrong and plenty of people branded as being TERFs are so consumed by the TE part of it that they cease to spend any time on feminist issues.

Zero_Destroyer posted...

Nothing, but an alliance that is pro-gay and anti-trans is delusional and seemingly unaware that the anti-trans organizations & political powers also want to outlaw gay marriage and, you know, make being gay illegal. It's people who are apparently unable to parse that the anti-trans "arguments" are recooked anti-gay talking points

"Genocide me last, daddy!"

Anteaterking posted...

"TERFs aren't feminists" is just some degree of no true scotsman.

No, a TERF is not a feminist in the same way a guy named Terry Martin from Arkansas isn't a Scotsman.

DrizztLink posted...

No, a TERF is not a feminist in the same way a guy named Terry Martin from Arkansas isn't a Scotsman.

What's your definition of "feminist" that inherently excludes TERFs?

I'm not just saying iT hAs FeMiNiSt In ThE nAmE, the original TERFs came from a fracturing of a movement that by all reasonable definitions was feminist.

terfs are just feminists who hate anything of 'men' trying to invade their space
they consider transwomyn/queer people who identify in a way of 'female' as 'men' hence the 'radical'

They are not femnists in the same way as a regular feminist. they're like an eco terrorist to a moderate liberal

Anteaterking posted...

What's your definition of "feminist" that inherently excludes TERFs?

The one where they if one claims to be feminist yet excludes trans women makes them not a feminist.

Like how you can't be a humanitarian "except for this specific group of people, fuck them for existing."

Anteaterking posted...

the original TERFs came from a fracturing of a movement that by all reasonable definitions was feminist.

So the ones that went TERF weren't feminists and the ones that didn't go TERF were.