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Doom_Art
04/03/23 5:33:04 PM
#1:


Quiet bisexual boy with freaky brain powers > Space racist

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ThePieReborn
04/03/23 5:33:58 PM
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Probably, but Carth must always die. No exceptions.

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BurmesePenguin
04/03/23 5:35:13 PM
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Space racism is a more interesting topic to explore in a game of space races than Kaidan's woe is me sad boy story of how humanity is cruel when there's technological progress at stake.
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garan
04/03/23 5:35:41 PM
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Sentinel > Soldier is obvious. Much better power set in 1 & 3. I don't particularly like either character though.
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Crimsoness
04/03/23 5:36:14 PM
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Should have been an option for both

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Gobstoppers12
04/03/23 5:36:21 PM
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What is this all about?

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Spurner
04/03/23 5:37:33 PM
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Im on my first ME3 play-through where hes not blown up. We shall see.
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ROBANN_88
04/03/23 5:45:18 PM
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but Kaidan doesn't even have a personality

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Freddie_Mercury
04/03/23 5:46:33 PM
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Crimsoness posted...
Should have been an option for both


you can always kill the other in 3

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Tig
04/03/23 5:47:16 PM
#10:


Ashley > Kaidan

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Pitlord_Special
04/03/23 5:48:01 PM
#11:


If you save Ashley, you're a simp
If you save Kaiden, you're incredibly based and redpilled

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Lonestar2000
04/03/23 5:50:32 PM
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I couldn't stand his voice.

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Supaitwo
04/03/23 5:51:17 PM
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Kaiden is the worlds most boring man.

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Crimsoness
04/03/23 5:51:57 PM
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Supaitwo posted...
Kaiden is the worlds most boring man.
Jacob gives him good competition

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Supaitwo
04/03/23 5:52:32 PM
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Crimsoness posted...
Jacob gives him good competition

I wont deny it.

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King_Rial
04/03/23 5:55:06 PM
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But Jacob throws up a barrier!

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Smashingpmkns
04/03/23 6:01:17 PM
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Tbh they both suck. I've only played about 80% of the first game tho

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Irony
04/03/23 6:01:54 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Tbh they both suck. I've only played about 80% of the first game tho
Then shut the fuck up

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Smashingpmkns
04/03/23 6:07:06 PM
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Irony posted...
Then shut the fuck up
No

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Kim_Seong-a
04/03/23 6:16:48 PM
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Ashley's xenophobia couldve been a much more interesting character flaw. It mirrored the distrust and skepticism that other races had towards humans, and in the context of the setting it wasnt entirely unsympathetic that someone would initially have those feelings. Idk, just feels like a wasted opportunity to make that a central character trait and then just have it be some surface level flavor dialogue you scroll through before you fuck her. >_>

The second game did a better Ashley arc in 20 minutes than Ashley got in all of 1 with the diary entries of that one dude you find at the Normandycrash site lol

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Crimsoness
04/03/23 6:18:26 PM
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Supaitwo posted...
I wont deny it.
Jacob does get the much more memorable personal quest

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Quorthon109
04/03/23 6:24:52 PM
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Im doing a trilogy run now and kept Ashley alive for the first time in forever. I cant say Im really missing Kaidan as a character, but damn is Ashley useless as a squadmate in 3.

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whateveroh
04/03/23 6:28:07 PM
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Quorthon109 posted...
Im doing a trilogy run now and kept Ashley alive for the first time in forever. I cant say Im really missing Kaidan as a character, but damn is Ashley useless as a squadmate in 3.

She was always useless as a squadmate.

At least Kaiden has biotics to make him useful. Ashley is just a basic soldier.

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Irony
04/03/23 6:37:52 PM
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You guys are giving way too much credit to squadmates. My Insanity run of 3 I basically did all the work

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BurmesePenguin
04/03/23 6:42:41 PM
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Irony posted...
You guys are giving way too much credit to squadmates. My Insanity run of 3 I basically did all the work
https://youtu.be/ZPbB4qfsA14

But also ME3 is basically where squadmates matter the least.

ME1 having more biotics on your team is always better because biotics are busted and they aren't on a universal timer.

ME2 squadmates matter if you're challenging yourself on harder difficulty because ME2 is actually kind of hard on harder difficulties, unlike ME3, and having access to specific abilities like Incinerate, Warp and Overload on specific maps is actually kind of important. And also incisor glitch and whatnot.
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Quorthon109
04/03/23 6:44:17 PM
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whateveroh posted...
She was always useless as a squadmate.

At least Kaiden has biotic to make him useful. Ashley is just a basic soldier.

Its way more noticeable in 3s combat compared to 1 to me with the power combos and whatnot.

Irony posted...
You guys are giving way too much credit to squadmates. My Insanity run of 3 I basically did all the work

Depending on my class, I like having a team with Warp/Incinerate and Overload as well as powers that sync with my own to do combos. Not vital, but it makes things easier and more fun.

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Kakapo
04/03/23 6:50:29 PM
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Ashley would be space-MAGA

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whateveroh
04/03/23 6:52:52 PM
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Kakapo posted...
Ashley would be space-MAGA

Make Asari Great Again?

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Kim_Seong-a
04/03/23 6:57:24 PM
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Kakapo posted...
Ashley would be space-MAGA

There was an actual Space-MAGA political party in the game.

I honestly forget, did she have any interaction with those characters? Another waste if not >_>

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Aressar
04/03/23 7:01:41 PM
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Gameplay-wise I actually prefer keeping Ashley alive over Kaidan, because imo snipers > any non-warp biotic (though I'll probably summon the biotic defense force by saying that).

As for Ashley's xenophobia, I don't really notice any of that after ME1 and I never really replay 1. Did like 3 full playthroughs of that ever.

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SimulationSwarm
04/03/23 7:03:30 PM
#31:


Miranda > Ashley

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BurmesePenguin
04/03/23 7:06:16 PM
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Kim_Seong-a posted...
There was an actual Space-MAGA political party in the game.

I honestly forget, did she have any interaction with those characters? Another waste if not >_>
The Terra Nova party. They have a protest at the citadel in ME1 that Bioware did not have the budget to make it appear sensical. Ashley talks about how they're dumb butts but I honestly don't really see how her language sets her apart from them.

But they're not really MAGA other than being racist.
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BurmesePenguin
04/03/23 7:08:57 PM
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Aressar posted...
Gameplay-wise I actually prefer keeping Ashley alive over Kaidan, because imo snipers > any non-warp biotic (though I'll probably summon the biotic defense force by saying that).
Are snipers particularly good in ME3 as companions?
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Aressar
04/03/23 8:00:46 PM
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BurmesePenguin posted...
Are snipers particularly good in ME3 as companions?

I think so, at least when equipping them with something at least as strong as a Mantis. Very effective for quickly picking off a groups of enemies.

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
04/03/23 9:21:51 PM
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I never have Kaiden survive ME 1, rather have Ashley survive since she gets some great character growth.

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ROBANN_88
04/04/23 3:58:08 AM
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BurmesePenguin posted...
The Terra Nova party. They have a protest at the citadel in ME1 that Bioware did not have the budget to make it appear sensical. Ashley talks about how they're dumb butts but I honestly don't really see how her language sets her apart from them.

I got the impression that she's like that weird uncle who just has some outdated opinions.

While the Terra Firma are like full on KKK

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Kloe_Rinz
04/04/23 4:06:19 AM
#37:


Both suck, so it really comes down to simply female > male. But neither are good because both suck
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Lord_Shadow
04/04/23 4:26:18 AM
#38:


Most of your crew is racist

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DrizztLink
04/04/23 5:05:44 AM
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If you don't have From Ashes and also don't want to play a Biotic, Kaiden is the only squaddie who can pull shields.

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alphagamble
04/04/23 5:13:46 AM
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I only recently learned Ashley's VA is black

such a shame they wasted her in 3

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