Current Events > Bill to ban Tiktok could also make VPNs illegal

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Intro2Logic
03/29/23 12:43:34 PM
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https://reason.com/2023/03/29/could-the-restrict-act-criminalize-the-use-of-vpns/

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Compsognathus
03/29/23 12:45:08 PM
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This Restrict Act seems very not good.

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Aztex
03/29/23 12:45:12 PM
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I don't even use VPN's but I don't want TikTok to get banned I use it daily

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bnui_ransder
03/29/23 12:46:06 PM
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Tiktok is just an an excuse

They question the legality of what it accesses and this bill basically gives them all access to our stuff and restricts what we can do

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CruelBuffalo
03/29/23 12:46:39 PM
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There is a large section of nerds that were crying about Net Neutrality are now advocating banning TikTok. Its embarrassing
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Questionmarktarius
03/29/23 12:46:39 PM
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The more logical reaction to websites tracking and surveilling users would be to ban that, but good luck with that.
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crayola555
03/29/23 12:46:59 PM
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Banning VPNs is the real reason they are passing this bill

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manhookcardoor
03/29/23 12:47:26 PM
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Im okay with Tik Tok being banned and dont use VPNs but fuck this.

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Tyranthraxus
03/29/23 12:49:11 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
The more logical reaction to websites tracking and surveilling users would be to ban that, but good luck with that.
That's because this is being lobbied by Google and Facebook who are big mad that they are losing market share.

It's not about privacy or security. It's about big corp paying off our government and always has been.

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Monolith1676
03/29/23 12:49:14 PM
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Tik Tok is banned by the country that owns it. Funny.

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voldothegr8
03/29/23 12:49:30 PM
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Overreaching bullshit

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Tyranthraxus
03/29/23 12:49:48 PM
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Monolith1676 posted...
Tik Tok is banned by the country that owns it. Funny.
No it isn't. It's just branded differently there.

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bnui_ransder
03/29/23 12:50:41 PM
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Does tiktok access your home wi-fi and all equipment? That's not good! That's scary!

Let's ban tiktok and get access to all of your things connected to your home wi-fi

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Cheater87
03/29/23 12:51:44 PM
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All VPN usage or just usage to get to banned apps?

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LightHawKnight
03/29/23 12:54:04 PM
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Eh, most sites are already stopping the only really useful point of a VPN anyways, getting by region locks. Unless it is for work, most regular people do not need a VPN to begin with, other than bypassing region locks. Their touted privacy claims are mostly bogus anyways, your data is getting sold, there isnt much if any real security protection unless you are paying for a high quality VPN. The shit sold by social media ads are not going to be cutting it.

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Questionmarktarius
03/29/23 1:11:26 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
Their touted privacy claims are mostly bogus anyways, your data is getting sold, there isnt much if any real security protection unless you are paying for a high quality VPN.
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Evol
03/29/23 1:45:28 PM
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Im wondering if this could end up banning games like Genshin Impact as well.
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DKBananaSlamma
03/29/23 1:58:01 PM
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So basically if I was a pirate, I would want to hypothetically pirate everything right now?

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GhostFaceLeaks
03/29/23 7:34:46 PM
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It won't just make VPNs illegal but it'll make Routers and Modems illegal if they have anything made from China in them, which is a large majority of them.

And it'll make Chinese video games illegal as well.

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Dakimakura
03/29/23 7:40:02 PM
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GhostFaceLeaks posted...
It won't just make VPNs illegal but it'll make Routers and Modems illegal if they have anything made from China in them, which is a large majority of them.

And it'll make Chinese video games illegal as well.

RIP League of Legends

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DKBananaSlamma
03/29/23 7:40:32 PM
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RIP Genshin Impact. At least we'll still have the porn

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GhostFaceLeaks
03/29/23 7:43:24 PM
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DKBananaSlamma posted...
RIP Genshin Impact. At least we'll still have the porn

Given how some parties are, they'd also try to ban porn after this for different reasons.

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Northlane
03/29/23 7:53:11 PM
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I looked at the bill

It said 20 years imprisonment and $1M fine for knowingly using a VPN to bypass a banned app such as TikTok

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crayola555
03/29/23 7:54:17 PM
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GhostFaceLeaks posted...
Given how some parties are, they'd also try to ban porn after this for different reasons.

Whoa there, now that's a real serious issue

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DrizztLink
03/29/23 7:55:04 PM
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DKBananaSlamma posted...
So basically if I was a pirate, I would want to hypothetically pirate everything right now?
Hypothetical piracy is just as harmful as real piracy, you know.

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Ratchetrockon
03/29/23 7:55:08 PM
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I just wanted to watch funny vids on tiktok what is so bad about that?

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DKBananaSlamma
03/29/23 7:55:34 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
Hypothetical piracy is just as harmful as real piracy, you know.
Hypothetically no it isnt lol

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Dakimakura
03/29/23 7:55:49 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
Hypothetical piracy is just as harmful as real piracy, you know.

You wouldn't steal a ship

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DKBananaSlamma
03/29/23 7:56:21 PM
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Northlane posted...
I looked at the bill

It said 20 years imprisonment and $1M fine for knowingly using a VPN to bypass a banned app such as TikTok
I didnt know we lived in communist China now

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Questionmarktarius
03/29/23 8:06:51 PM
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DKBananaSlamma posted...
So basically if I was a pirate, I would want to hypothetically pirate everything right now?
There's no way a VPN ban "because tiktok!" won't soon become "because piratebay!" - just wait.
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darkmaian23
03/29/23 8:27:56 PM
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I've seen some people arguing that the bill somehow restricts its own powers and so isn't as bad as it sounds, but I don't believe that for a second. Our politicians are idiots and all they want is more power over us. Never mind that the very idea of the bill itself is obviously unconstitutional.

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Irony
03/29/23 8:29:17 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
Hypothetical piracy is just as harmful as real piracy, you know.
You wouldn't hypothetically download a hypothetical

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gamestunner
03/29/23 8:29:42 PM
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I don't use either so I'm fine if it happens.

Tbh I'm all for tik tok being banned.

Work would definitely improve.

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Zikten
03/29/23 8:37:49 PM
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No more youtubers advertising Nord VPN
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hockeybub89
03/29/23 8:38:15 PM
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I had someone at work tell me TikTok is far more sinister than Facebook or Twitter, but I think the entire argument is "China bad", which is true, but so is lots of shit we humans eat up.

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Gritty
03/29/23 9:01:05 PM
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crayola555 posted...
Banning VPNs is the real reason they are passing this bill
This

fuck that shit no matter what Im still using. Lol.
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Agent_Stroud
03/29/23 9:11:16 PM
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Unusual amount of bipartisan support from the getgo and the current administration just cant wait to sign it into law despite the clear warning signs that this can and most definitely will be abused by those in power. Even the name of the bill (The RESTRICT Act) is quite telling once youve done some reading into what all it proposes to do if signed into law as-is.

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gamestunner
03/29/23 10:53:52 PM
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Not anti abortion btw. I mean If I had to pick it would definitely be right, but I'm neither.

Trump sucked

And

Biden sucks right now


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Dark_twisted
03/29/23 11:00:01 PM
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Rip Genshin Impact. You had a good run.

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Kloe_Rinz
03/29/23 11:02:39 PM
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Dont care about Tok Tok but a VPN is basic cybersecurity. It would be like banning bitlocker encryption or antivirus software
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Humble_Novice
03/29/23 11:04:19 PM
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Does this mean we won't be able to use QooApp anymore?
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manhookcardoor
03/29/23 11:06:52 PM
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sigh fine...

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Ratchetrockon
03/29/23 11:09:38 PM
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Aww I'm glad ppl changed their mind about tiktok

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