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SocialistGamer
03/07/23 12:00:37 PM
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https://www.knoe.com/2023/03/06/arkansas-bill-remove-work-permit-requirement-children-under-16-goes-sanders-desk/

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FortuneCookie
03/07/23 12:01:29 PM
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*visible disgust*

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Xatrion
03/07/23 12:02:50 PM
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Putting children to work, pulling up bootstraps, and subjecting them to harsh working conditions without the consent of their parents.......to own the libs, I guess.

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uwnim
03/07/23 12:05:25 PM
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Xatrion posted...
Putting children to work, pulling up bootstraps, and subjecting them to harsh working conditions without the consent of their parents.......to own the libs, I guess.
Nah. It is cause workers were feeling too empowered, so the politicians masters requested additions to the labor pool.

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NoxObscuras
03/07/23 12:21:58 PM
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Sanders plans to sign House Bill 1410, her spokeswoman Alexa Henning said in a Thursday email.

The governor believes protecting kids is most important, but doing so with arbitrary burdens on parents to get permission from the government for their child to get a job is burdensome and obsolete,

Weird that they're trying to make the work permits sound like a burden to parents...

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A_Good_Boy
03/07/23 12:27:38 PM
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NoxObscuras posted...
Weird that they're trying to make the work permits sound like a burden to parents...
They seem to only believe that parents need to give their consent when it comes to teaching their kids about math, black and gay people in schools, sexual education, information from and visits to the doctor, but work is apparently where they draw the line.

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Southernfatman
03/07/23 12:34:17 PM
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Republicans and their supporters want to go back to the gilded age.

I want a good explanation as to why these people are vile, disgusting, evil people.

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Strider102
03/07/23 12:35:19 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
They seem to only believe that parents need to give their consent when it comes to teaching their kids about math, black and gay people in schools, sexual education, information from and visits to the doctor, but work is apparently where they draw the line.

Because getting an education, learning about mistakes we've made and learning how not to make those same mistakes is woke or some shit like that.

We can't have future generations being intelligent.

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Smashingpmkns
03/07/23 12:36:16 PM
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The children yearn for the mines

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Ruvan22
03/07/23 12:40:24 PM
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Eliminating this requirement would restore decision-making to parents concerning their children, the bill states. Rep. Rebecca Burkes, R-Lowell, the bills primary sponsor, repeated this on the House floor Feb. 22.
Rep. Andrew Collins, D-Little Rock, took issue with this clause.
Parents have to sign off [on the permit] under the current law, he said. If this passes, the parents wont have to sign off, and I think thats a pretty important distinction.

How would it restore decision making to parents if the parents don't have to sign off (the child can do it independently)?
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Strider102
03/07/23 12:41:45 PM
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Ruvan22 posted...
Eliminating this requirement would restore decision-making to parents concerning their children, the bill states. Rep. Rebecca Burkes, R-Lowell, the bills primary sponsor, repeated this on the House floor Feb. 22.
Rep. Andrew Collins, D-Little Rock, took issue with this clause.
Parents have to sign off [on the permit] under the current law, he said. If this passes, the parents wont have to sign off, and I think thats a pretty important distinction.

How would it restore decision making to parents if the parents don't have to sign off (the child can do it independently)?

This is what happens when you don't have an education. This is what they want.

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IMNOTRAGED
03/07/23 12:46:39 PM
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NoxObscuras posted...
The governor believes protecting kids is most important, but doing so with arbitrary burdens on parents to get permission from the government for their child to get a job is burdensome and obsolete,

This is about the most bullshit sentence I've ever seen constructed

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SiO4
03/07/23 1:04:21 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
The children yearn for the mines


Clean coal

https://imgur.com/0l44hWM

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daftpunk_mk5
03/07/23 1:08:05 PM
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Big plus side of this: might lead to less kids going to college. Way too many teens have no idea how the world works and blindly commit themselves to 6 figure debt.

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brestugo
03/07/23 1:18:20 PM
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Ruvan22 posted...
Eliminating this requirement would restore decision-making to parents concerning their children, the bill states. Rep. Rebecca Burkes, R-Lowell, the bills primary sponsor, repeated this on the House floor Feb. 22.

There's so much spin in that statement, I'll bet she can't see straight.


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brestugo
03/07/23 1:22:31 PM
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Read an article recently explaining the labor shortage. It's not younger people "not wanting to work", it's due to Boomer retirements. Add to that the fact that instead of utilizing labor quite literally dying to work here, some Boomers want to build a wall...

And here we are.

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TheGoldenEel
03/07/23 1:24:50 PM
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daftpunk_mk5 posted...
Big plus side of this: might lead to less kids going to college. Way too many teens have no idea how the world works and blindly commit themselves to 6 figure debt.
Damn, I thought the quote in the OP about returning decisions to the parents would be the dumbest shit I read all day

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Strider102
03/07/23 1:27:56 PM
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And people say Idiocracy isn't a documentary

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BignutzisBack
03/07/23 3:07:19 PM
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daftpunk_mk5 posted...
Big plus side of this: might lead to less kids going to college. Way too many teens have no idea how the world works and blindly commit themselves to 6 figure debt.

Dude less education is the last thing we need here lol

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A_Good_Boy
03/07/23 3:14:04 PM
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BignutzisBack posted...
Dude less education is the last thing we need here lol
Let's start with them getting a quality high school education and then go from there.

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Questionmarktarius
03/07/23 3:16:15 PM
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So... when are we getting state pushback on the National Minimum Drinking Age Act?
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Funkydog
03/07/23 3:16:29 PM
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How is this not protected at a federal, or whatever you guys call it, level?

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Questionmarktarius
03/07/23 3:18:58 PM
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Funkydog posted...
How is this not protected at a federal, or whatever you guys call it, level?
I don't know that it actually is.
Child Labor laws get vague and nebulous at the federal level for 16+, and farms get sweetheart carveouts anyway.
https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/YouthRules/young-workers/non-ag-16-17
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RchHomieQuanChi
03/07/23 3:29:41 PM
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America: Where it's acceptable to work a physically extensive job at the age of 16, die for your country at 18, but can't have a sip of wine until you're 21

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brestugo
03/07/23 3:44:02 PM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
America: Where it's acceptable to work a physically extensive job at the age of 16, die for your country at 18, but can't have a sip of wine until you're 21
Ahhh, America.

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Questionmarktarius
03/07/23 3:45:24 PM
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brestugo posted...
Ahhh, America.
Your dad can give you a .22 rifle when you're six, but holy shit don't give your 19-year-old a beer you goddamn monster!!
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Kloe_Rinz
03/07/23 3:46:31 PM
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The free market at work
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TheHoldSteady
03/07/23 3:48:29 PM
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daftpunk_mk5 posted...
Big plus side of this: might lead to less kids going to college. Way too many teens have no idea how the world works and blindly commit themselves to 6 figure debt.

Yes instead of making good education more affordable and accessible let's just uhm, not educate them?

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Delta_Force
03/07/23 3:49:39 PM
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Just continues to show that they never cared about the well being of children, it's just about saving a few dollars.

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StarSpangled
03/08/23 7:04:38 PM
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Another one

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Trumble
03/08/23 7:07:36 PM
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Ruvan22 posted...
Eliminating this requirement would restore decision-making to parents concerning their children, the bill states. Rep. Rebecca Burkes, R-Lowell, the bills primary sponsor, repeated this on the House floor Feb. 22.
Rep. Andrew Collins, D-Little Rock, took issue with this clause.
Parents have to sign off [on the permit] under the current law, he said. If this passes, the parents wont have to sign off, and I think thats a pretty important distinction.

How would it restore decision making to parents if the parents don't have to sign off (the child can do it independently)?
Just because the parents don't have to fill out a form anymore doesn't mean they have to allow, let alone assist with transport etc, their child getting a job. If they don't want the child getting one, they won't get one. This more just sounds like cutting red tape.

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TheGoldenEel
03/08/23 8:43:08 PM
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Trumble posted...
Just because the parents don't have to fill out a form anymore doesn't mean they have to allow, let alone assist with transport etc, their child getting a job. If they don't want the child getting one, they won't get one. This more just sounds like cutting red tape.
What about the millions of children without a stable home environment who were prevented from being exploited by laws like this

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CADE_FOSTER
03/08/23 8:44:30 PM
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republicans would have children back in coal mines and as chimney sweeps if we let them
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Payzmaykr
03/10/23 5:54:52 PM
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Dont hire kids. Pay a fair salary and stop short staffing.
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mybbqrules
03/10/23 6:37:05 PM
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Imagine how empty of a human you would have to be to still support Republicans in 2023.

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cellus523
03/10/23 6:49:55 PM
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How soon before we hear stories of kids being "employed" as a form of punishment?

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Bigbot84
03/10/23 6:56:36 PM
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This country is too far gone. Republicans shouldn't exist, and Democrats only care to keep the status quo.
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hockeybub89
03/10/23 7:01:00 PM
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Oh, so 15 year olds don't need permission to work in the mines, but they need permission to use pronouns and wear dresses.

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Solar_Crimson
03/11/23 12:14:36 AM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
America: Where it's acceptable to work a physically extensive job at the age of 16, die for your country at 18, but can't have a sip of wine until you're 21


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wackyteen
03/12/23 9:44:34 AM
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Ruvan22 posted...
Eliminating this requirement would restore decision-making to parents concerning their children, the bill states. Rep. Rebecca Burkes, R-Lowell, the bills primary sponsor, repeated this on the House floor Feb. 22.
Rep. Andrew Collins, D-Little Rock, took issue with this clause.
Parents have to sign off [on the permit] under the current law, he said. If this passes, the parents wont have to sign off, and I think thats a pretty important distinction.

How would it restore decision making to parents if the parents don't have to sign off (the child can do it independently)?

Apparently the issue is that because the parents had to fill out a waiver, the government still got final say.

So it 'restores' the choice being between the parent, the child, and the employer. No government involvement needed.

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WhisperWolf2005
03/12/23 10:21:00 AM
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Its amusing that they made kids part of the the photo-op

https://images.app.goo.gl/w4ufJoBcD4iRCibu6

Like I doubt their parents will make them work lol

I had my first job at 15 btw, loved having the cash for games.
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daftpunk_mk5
03/13/23 5:55:57 PM
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TheHoldSteady posted...
Yes instead of making good education more affordable and accessible let's just uhm, not educate them?
Or let's make everything before college not be a massive waste of time.

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Dat_Cracka_Jax
03/13/23 5:58:24 PM
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What about the parent's bill of rights?

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