Current Events > Morality choices in games usually suck.

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Being good is usually just the right answer with more rewards while being bad is bad.

They should make being bad have unique and or just better rewards if theyre just going to shame you for being an ass.

Have some cool bad guy/evil creature join you or something

Morality choices in games usually suck because it's either a) Save the children or b) Burn down the orphanage because it's funny

MGSV does it pretty well imo

In stuff like Knights of the Old Republic, you get a lot more items and credits from being immoral, x.x

In Jade Empire it's the only way to get one of the followers on your team.

Yeah, I agree. It's a shame that morality is often an option in games, but it's very rarely done in an interesting or meaningful way.

More often than not, the "evil" options are, like you said, blatantly worse, or just the characters saying "Hey, stop kidding around" and the game treating it like you picked the good option anyway.

I'd like to see more games with genuinely interesting good/evil systems. I've only played a small handful that come to mind as being interesting at all. It's sad when the Fable series, which is kind of notable for dropping the ball in a lot of areas and being a general disappointment, is what comes to mind first as an interesting morality system.

Actually I find its usually do good thing and get less/no reward and immoral choice gives you more money

GrandConjuraton posted...

In stuff like Knights of the Old Republic, you get a lot more items and credits from being immoral, x.x

This is very true.

Also in KOTOR 2 the bad choices are satisfying just because almost everyone you meet is an asshole.

Best done morality in games is Undertale.

Oblivion did it the best (from what I've played), the Thieves Guild & Dark Brotherhood questlines were the highlight of the game

Harvesting the little sisters = more slugs for my slug bag

Pitlord_Special posted...

Harvesting the little sisters = more slugs for my slug bag

This is a bad example cause i think you break even or get more for being good. And the bad ending is bad and the good ending is good.

dotsdfe posted...

Yeah, I agree. It's a shame that morality is often an option in games, but it's very rarely done in an interesting or meaningful way.

More often than not, the "evil" options are, like you said, blatantly worse, or just the characters saying "Hey, stop kidding around" and the game treating it like you picked the good option anyway.

I'd like to see more games with genuinely interesting good/evil systems. I've only played a small handful that come to mind as being interesting at all. It's sad when the Fable series, which is kind of notable for dropping the ball in a lot of areas and being a general disappointment, is what comes to mind first as an interesting morality system.

Honestly, it's kinda funny that Fable 3 of all games had one of the most interesting approaches to morality.

IIRC, you became a king and there was some sort of approaching threat that you needed to prepare the kingdom for. You often had to be pick between doing the "morally evil" action that would help you raise the funds to protect the kingdom, try to raise the funds for the kingdom the slow way through good ol' hard work and/or be super generous to your kingdom and potentially screw them in the future.

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Honestly, it's kinda funny that Fable 3 of all games had one of the most interesting approaches to morality.

IIRC, you became a king and there was some sort of approaching threat that you needed to prepare the kingdom for. You often had to be pick between doing the "morally evil" action that would help you raise the funds to protect the kingdom, try to raise the funds for the kingdom the slow way through good ol' hard work and/or be super generous to your kingdom and potentially screw them in the future.

Landlording completely trivializes the "tough decisions" part.

Evil is usually short-term gain and good is long-term gain.

Still like ME because they're just entertaining: "You're working too hard."

Xenoblade Chronicles X had a good grey one that occasionally komes to mind. You're ordered to kill some beasts, but after you kill a mother, you find her helpess infants and kan choose to spare them. Doing so, however, eventully results in a follow up quest where the babies get bigger and people die.

I dunno, I always felt like being good got you less rewards. Usually when you're bad and finish a quest, you're like "I demand money for my time and I might keep what I found on my quest" while being good you're usually like "I went out of my way into the Pit of Despair and fought the God of All Monsters just to bring back a locket you lost and see a smile on your face! Bye friend!".

Witcher 3 always tried to make you feel like a greedy, evil bastard for negotiating some compensation to kill a monster that was killing every person and animal in that villager's village.

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PesticideDream posted...

I dunno, I always felt like being good got you less rewards. Usually when you're bad and finish a quest, you're like "I demand money for my time and I might keep what I found on my quest" while being good you're usually like "I went out of my way into the Pit of Despair and fought the God of All Monsters just to bring back a locket you lost and see a smile on your face! Bye friend!".

Witcher 3 always tried to make you feel like a greedy, evil bastard for negotiating some compensation to kill a monster that was killing every person and animal in that villager's village.

Nope: its always "Im refusing a reward cause im good!" and theyre like "OMFG HERES A BETTER REWARD THEN!"

Oh remember how disappointed I was when I realized that saving all the little sisters in Bioshock made the game easier, not harder.

Ozarhok posted...

Oblivion did it the best (from what I've played), the Thieves Guild & Dark Brotherhood questlines were the highlight of the game

lol Oblivion's morality system is dumb as shit. the Thieves Guild is very much a "steal from the rich; give to the poor" organization and has explicit rules against killing people, and it's one of the "evil" ones; whereas the fighters' guild literally tells you to "go out and hurt some people" and it's one of the "good" ones