Current Events > every single left leaning person should own guns and be armed

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Past me did a good job tagging you. Talk about easily triggered.

Yeah, Ill take criticism on emotional control from someone angered by a post mocking how the right would react to something.

Yeah.no
im done with the whole how could we have prevented this tragedy.

Everybody should arm themselves, yes.

You think only people on the right have guns? Thats both hilarious and sad.

A polite society is an armed society, after all. Glad everybody can agree on how important the 2nd Amendment truly is.

only cops should have guns

Reminder that it isn't black peoples responsibility to put themselves in harms way to get your political enemies to do something you like.

You're not being clever, you're being racist.

To be frank if the left was more pro gun it would be one less reason the right has anything that appeals to me. In fact I think it would cut it in half. The other is I'm pro big military budget. Outside these two things the right can get fucked.

Do not confuse chud talking points with the reality of what people want. People on the left are largely fine with guns being allowed, but want there to be some level of stop-gap to keep them out of the hands of literal crazy people. Things like needing to have a background check done in order to obtain a gun wouldn't actually hinder 99% of the people wanting to get a gun but it would stop substantial amounts of the gun violence that happens.

Though the left is definitely against big military budgets. At least within the context of what you are talking about.

I'm pro big military budget cause a good chunk of the world doesn't like America. Some of which is America's fault. But I'd be mighty pissed if my life was in danger cause America pissed another country off and didn't have the means to deter an attack.

But on the guns. Like there is a gun I wanna buy. I don't have the funds currently but when I was looking at it it had a notice that it was banned in California. It's a fucking handgun. I'd like to know on what grounds California had it banned. Cause it was originally made for the military? A 1911 if you planned on asking

I'm pro big military budget cause a good chunk of the world doesn't like America. Some of which is America's fault. But I'd be mighty pissed if my life was in danger cause America pissed another country off and didn't have the means to deter an attack.

But on the guns. Like there is a gun I wanna buy. I don't have the funds currently but when I was looking at it it had a notice that it was banned in California. It's a fucking handgun. I'd like to know on what grounds California had it banned. Cause it was originally made for the military? A 1911 if you planned on asking

But on the guns. Like there is a gun I wanna buy. I don't have the funds currently but when I was looking at it it had a notice that it was banned in California. It's a fucking handgun. I'd like to know on what grounds California had it banned. Cause it was originally made for the military? A 1911 if you planned on asking

Wtf?

It feels like arming up is a fundamental capitulation to the right, we're going to let them set the terms of life, instead of building a fair society, we're going to have one where everyone is ready and able to kill each other.

At the same time, people should be prepared to defend themselves and fight for a better world rather than just being steamrolled by those most ready and willing to do violence.

The right will suddenly 180 on gun rights when we all have guns.

Real talk? A massive increase in black ownership of guns would scare the shit out of loads on the right to the point that they might be okay with gun control.

https://www.npr.org/2022/07/18/1112095634/black-people-are-the-fastest-growing-group-of-gun-owners-in-the-u-s

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/apr/05/us-gun-ownership-black-americans-surge

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-06/black-women-represent-growing-group-of-new-us-gun-ownership

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/06/23/us/black-gun-owners-sales-rising/index.html

Cue the right wing panic, I guess?

Or not.

Your response shouldn't be "increase military expenditures" it should be "stop meddling in other countries"

Jesus wtf

A 1911 is classified as an assault weapon and Pete Wilson, a Republican, banned assault weapons in 1994 as a response to the increase in African Americans getting a hold on guns (in fact, if you go to the legislation in that time period a 1911 is primarily labeled as an assault weapon because of this as it included a redefinition of the term). So I guess "Republicans are racist" is your answer mixed with the standard "and then the Democrats continued to do absolutely nothing" afterwards.

And most of the world hates America *because* of its big military budget and our willingness to overthrow their governments for the sake of a quick dollar. A lower government budget for the military would go a long ways in not actually needing a higher budget. While there are actual valid reasons for the high budget, defending ourselves isn't actually a part of them (it's primarily upkeep-related purposes).

Still don't get why a 1911 would be classified as an assault weapon.

Still don't get why a 1911 would be classified as an assault weapon. I'm not a gun nut so as far as I'm aware it's just a regular handgun. The one I want specifically is a. 45. I already own a .45 I don't see the difference outside MI is defective and had a recall on it.

You'll have to forgive me as California is almost literally a meme state that makes liberals look like loons. So seeing the gun was banned there i just assumed.

It has to do with the rifling on the barrel, IIRC. It was a really weird way for the ban to hit a bunch of weapons that were getting popular amongst the black communities at the time (mainly because they were cheap at the time, but that was a side thing) without actively saying that they were doing a blanket ban.

It isn't. It is pretty standard, but because it has a larger population + the largest "news" sector is basically just a propaganda channel trying to make Democrats look bad (with Sinclair owning >50% of all news channels it isn't wrong calling it a sector) it gets far more heat than is particularly warranted. Having a high population just means that a higher amount of raw events will happen there, but unlike something like Florida the actual % of crazy nonsense per capita is pretty low. Even then most of the stuff that is actually all that crazy is pretty exclusively conservative as the state has a pretty enormous number of them as well. It's the reason that Fox did a massive smear campaign about anti-vaxxers in Cali and then stopped when it turned out that everyone that they were smearing was Republican. They just assumed that because it was from California it *had* to be liberals.