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UnholyMudcrab
10/01/22 2:47:40 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Why the fuck did Napoleon go into Russia?
Russia withdrew from the Continental System, and the invasion was an attempt to force them back in.

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Questionmarktarius
10/01/22 2:50:13 AM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Russia withdrew from the Continental System, and the invasion was an attempt to force them back in.
Napoleon: I'm in Moscow now!
Russians: Fuck off, we're in St Petersburg now!
Napoleon: I can wait.
Russians: lol, no.
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Garioshi
10/01/22 2:56:51 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
I'm curious about your reasoning here.
Stalin's "socialism in one country" clashes horrendously with Trotsky's "permanent revolution". He was an agitator who sought to spread socialism beyond the borders of the USSR, and I have no doubt he would have used the military power of the USSR to quash the Nazis long before they got to the amount of power they did with Stalin.

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Questionmarktarius
10/01/22 2:59:24 AM
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Garioshi posted...
Stalin's "socialism in one country" clashes horrendously with Trotsky's "permanent revolution".
Ah.
Having read that Trotsky book that's all "goddamit, Stalin", this makes a lot of sense now.

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andel
10/01/22 9:23:32 AM
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Garioshi posted...
Stalin's "socialism in one country" clashes horrendously with Trotsky's "permanent revolution". He was an agitator who sought to spread socialism beyond the borders of the USSR, and I have no doubt he would have used the military power of the USSR to quash the Nazis long before they got to the amount of power they did with Stalin.

while trotsky did believe in the idea of permanent revolution and forcibly turning europe communist that would have never actually worked out for him. if russia had tried to forcibly convert europe to communism they would have started a world war sooner and been crushed. the world was much more scared of communism than fascism pre ww2 and as soon as he tried to invade any allied country he would have been forcibly removed from power.

also he didn't have nearly the organizational aptitude stalin did and would have been removed from within pretty quickly

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andel
10/01/22 9:35:48 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/HistoryWhatIf/comments/2qvlmw/what_if_trotsky_became_lenins_successor_instead/

i think that is a good post that could explain what would have happened had trotsky gained power. ultimately communism in russia would have likely lasted much less time

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divot1338
10/01/22 10:17:20 AM
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https://youtu.be/SFgJIj4mpN0

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