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WellBye
09/28/22 8:33:26 PM
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by New Mexico prosecutors who are seeking an additional $635,000 in funds to prosecute this case.
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Kitt
09/28/22 8:34:06 PM
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Is this about Rust?

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WellBye
09/28/22 8:34:18 PM
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Kitt posted...
Is this about Rust?


Yep.
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Etna
09/28/22 8:35:36 PM
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Good. Dude shouldn't be playing with guns unless he is properly trained.

He apparently doesn't even know the 4 most basic rules of firearm safety. He needs to pay up

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CreekCo
09/28/22 8:36:50 PM
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Why are they seeking funds to prosecute?

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WellBye
09/28/22 8:37:24 PM
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CreekCo posted...
Why are they seeking funds to prosecute?


Probably because Baldwin would spend a small fortune on lawyers if named as a defendant.
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CreekCo
09/28/22 8:38:39 PM
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The state should have almost unlimited funding and resources to prosecute a murder

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TetsuoS2
09/28/22 9:00:10 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


yeah, it's not a black and white judgment.

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__aCEr__
09/28/22 9:00:57 PM
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SMAL why are you so obsessed with this?

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WellBye
09/28/22 9:06:51 PM
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Revnir posted...


Wasn't he given a guy and told it was just a fake? How is this his fault?


He is an executive producer for the movie and probably the movie's biggest producer or one of its biggest producer. That also makes him liable,
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DarkChozoGhost
09/28/22 9:10:14 PM
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__aCEr__ posted...
SMAL why are you so obsessed with this?
Alec Baldwin played Trump on SNL so they're hoping that this case develops in the worst way possible for him.

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WellBye
09/28/22 10:26:57 PM
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bump
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Smashingpmkns
09/28/22 10:37:04 PM
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He's pretty much protected with the way film set roles are (and have always been) structured. The weapons master is liable.

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WellBye
09/28/22 10:38:01 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
The weapons master is liable.


As an executive producer, he's responsible for safety and the hiring of the weapons master.
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Smashingpmkns
09/28/22 10:39:26 PM
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WellBye posted...
As an executive producer, he's responsible for safety and the hiring of the weapons master.
As an executive producer he isn't responsible for any of that shit lol

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Imit8m3
09/28/22 10:59:07 PM
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He IS the one who pointed a gun at someone and pulled the trigger.
Fair, next.

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Irony
09/28/22 10:59:59 PM
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Imit8m3 posted...
He IS the one who pointed a gun at someone and pulled the trigger.
Fair, next.
Nah

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itachi15243
09/28/22 11:08:11 PM
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WellBye posted...
As an executive producer, he's responsible for safety and the hiring of the weapons master.

The literal only way anything happens to him over this is if they can somehow prove that he purposely set up everything from the weapon master to the loaded gun to purposely hurt or kill someone.

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WellBye
09/28/22 11:09:14 PM
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itachi15243 posted...
purposely


No, they can go after him for negligence too.
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itachi15243
09/28/22 11:10:00 PM
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WellBye posted...
No, they can go after him for negligence too.

I don't think you seem to understand

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WellBye
09/28/22 11:12:29 PM
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itachi15243 posted...


I don't think you seem to understand


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_negligence#United_States
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Smashingpmkns
09/28/22 11:13:39 PM
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WellBye posted...
No, they can go after him for negligence too.
You don't know wtf you're talking about

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Imit8m3
09/29/22 12:49:29 AM
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Irony posted...
Nah
Am I to understand that you think pointing a gun at someone and pulling the trigger is NOT worthy of a criminal trial?

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Etna
09/29/22 12:54:45 AM
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Doesn't matter who tells you that the gun is good to go. In the end it is up to the person using it do decide if they are willing to point it and pull the trigger.

"Dont point a firearm at anything you are bot willing to destroy" and "treat EVERY firearm as if it is loaded" are 2 of the most basic rules.

Its why people who have 0 training with guns and don't know anything about them should never touch one. Because you get shit like what happened here.

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Tyranthraxus
09/29/22 12:59:21 AM
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He was told it wasn't loaded by the arms master.

Regardless not even the best lawyer on the world is going to be able to argue mens rea for any kind of murder charges here, not even negligence.

The worst possible charge he's potentially guilty of is just involuntary manslaughter and if Caitlyn Jenner gets no charges for killing someone while using her cell phone and driving at the same time then I doubt Alec will be found guilty.

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WellBye
09/29/22 8:40:59 PM
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Alec's lawyer responded:

...The DA further claimed she anticipates prosecuting up to four people who were on the set at Bonanza Creek Ranch.

"The Rust prosecution could be potentially be prosecutions from one (1) to four (4) defendants," Carmack-Altwies wrote in paperwork filed for an emergency grant. "One of the possible defendants is well-known movie actor Alec Baldwin."

However, a lawyer for Baldwin emphasized that the Santa Fe County Sheriff's report had not even been received by the district attorney yet, and encouraged media to give the DA's office "space to review" the forthcoming report "without unfounded speculation and innuendo."

"Some media reports today draw false conclusions based on a letter from the Santa Fe Dist. Attorney," Baldwin's lawyer Luke Nikas told Fox News Digital.

"The DA has made clear that she has not received the sheriff's report or made any decisions about who, if anyone, might be charged in this case," the statement furthered. "And during my communications with the DA's office just a few weeks ago, after the August 30 funding request was submitted, I was told that it would be premature to discuss the case because they had not yet reviewed the file or deliberated about their charging decision."

"It is irresponsible to report otherwise," Nikas said. "The DA's office must be given the space to review this matter without unfounded speculation and innuendo."

In paperwork justifying the request for emergency funding, Carmack-Altwies wrote, "During the filming of this movie, Alec Baldwin shot and killed Halyna Hutchins and injured Joel Souza while rehearsing a scene."
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FigureOfSpeech
09/29/22 9:04:21 PM
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*looks at tc's profile*

Recently played: The Last of Us Part 2

0.5 stars/5

now where have I seen that before?...

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JJH777
09/29/22 9:28:25 PM
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The only way Baldwin has any responsibility is if due to his leadership on set he created an environment that didn't take safety regulations seriously or depending on his role in hiring the arms master and if proper vetting was done.

An actor being given what's supposed to be a prop gun isn't responsible for it being loaded. It's completely unrealistic to expect every actor who's ever handled a gun for a movie to check the weapon before use. If anything that would cause major issues because it would create many more chances for the gun to be loaded. There should only be a single person responsible for ensuring firearms on a movie set are treated appropriately.

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WellBye
09/29/22 11:08:12 PM
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JJH777 posted...
The only way Baldwin has any responsibility is if due to his leadership on set he created an environment that didn't take safety regulations seriously or depending on his role in hiring the arms master and if proper vetting was done.

An actor being given what's supposed to be a prop gun isn't responsible for it being loaded. It's completely unrealistic to expect every actor who's ever handled a gun for a movie to check the weapon before use. If anything that would cause major issues because it would create many more chances for the gun to be loaded. There should only be a single person responsible for ensuring firearms on a movie set are treated appropriately.


Want to bet your account on that?
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MICHALECOLE
09/29/22 11:16:15 PM
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wAnT tO bEt YoUr AcCoUnT
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kingdrake2
09/29/22 11:18:58 PM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
wAnT tO bEt YoUr AcCoUnT


others have bet account and they welched. "butters" was one of those users.

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MICHALECOLE
09/29/22 11:20:25 PM
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I dont know who butters is

is that tc?
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Rathinor
09/29/22 11:23:03 PM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
I dont know who butters is

is that tc?
TC is SirMixaLot. Best known for being a fake lawyer who got caught posting his sister's paycheck
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MICHALECOLE
09/29/22 11:25:59 PM
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Rathinor posted...
TC is SirMixaLot. Best known for being a fake lawyer who got caught posting his sister's paycheck


you guys are all so up on the lore! I just work here
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Rathinor
09/29/22 11:27:28 PM
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MICHALECOLE posted...


you guys are all so up on the lore! I just work here
I don't really know most lore, but TC is unforgettable

He has literally made thousands of accounts because he keeps getting banned. Has no social life, gamefaqs is all he has. He was very upset when people found out he wasn't actually a lawyer
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WellBye
09/29/22 11:28:01 PM
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MICHALECOLE posted...



you guys are all so up on the lore! I just work here


The fan fiction is great and keeps me entertained.
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Background_Guy
09/30/22 12:13:07 AM
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What would this do other than waste money?
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Etna
09/30/22 12:13:54 AM
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WellBye posted...
Want to bet your account on that?
@JJH777

Are you gonna answer the challenge?

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JJH777
09/30/22 12:36:55 AM
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WellBye posted...
Want to bet your account on that?

I won't bet my account but I'd do a $50 wager that any conviction Baldwin gets won't be related to pulling the trigger. Unless of course it's determined that he knew there was live ammunition in the gun before pulling the trigger. In any other circumstance an actor is obviously not responsible for a gun going off on set just because they are holding it. Baldwin's leadership role here means he may be determined responsible but if he was just an actor hired for the film he would have basically a 0% chance of any punishment or responsibility.

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ViewtifulGrave
09/30/22 12:56:18 AM
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Tc is not an active member.

What happened?

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TetsuoS2
09/30/22 12:57:10 AM
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he is an alt and has a number of suspect posts and topics.

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Tyranthraxus
09/30/22 1:23:26 AM
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ViewtifulGrave posted...
Tc is not an active member.

What happened?

SMaL and SUSPENDED.

Name a more iconic duo

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Popcorn2000
09/30/22 1:26:18 AM
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CreekCo posted...
The state should have almost unlimited funding and resources to prosecute a murder
Lol this is america

that only happens when whites people die
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Turtlebread
09/30/22 1:30:10 AM
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Etna posted...
@JJH777

Are you gonna answer the challenge?

No need, looks like your beloved tc already got fucked

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kingdrake2
09/30/22 10:59:02 AM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
I dont know who butters is


cant remember the exact thing he welched on but he didn't deliver apart of old CE
i know Toyota Welched on a clippers basketball game loss.

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